worst Disney sequel


I’m a huge fan of Disney movies and I love the little mermaid but this sequel was just so bad, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT WAS BAD.
For starters Ariel’s little girl was so annoying. I was hoping she would die by the end of it.

Sebastian’s voice was utterly crap as was ALL the cast (I realised some characters were the same as number 1). And those stupid Disney 'comic relief’s' were THE WORST characters ever. They weren’t comic nor were they relief’s.

As you can see this movie upset me but THE ANIMATION.... THAT WAS SO BAD. nothing like the first which Disney actually took time doing. For instance (this was just 1 bit) where the dog was running. Did anyone see how bad that bit was? it looked so computerized plus it was slow. The whole movie looked like Disney had spent about 2 minuets making it.

I’m sure that they only did this for the money which is really sad to know from someone who loved the first 1.

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The reason the sequels don't do as well as the original is because Disney really invest for new movies. The Lion King the artist and other personell went to African, watched dozens of hours on how animals act and look like. The storyline were gone over and over again to make sure they got it right.

Disney executive after seeing the first one do well decide to make sequels like any major studio. But they don't invest as much, same main characters for the voices, replace some, change the director, go with a lower costs writer and artists. That is why there wouldn;t be a sequel to surpass the original in Disney.

I like Lion King 2, but the original was a master piece. You can see the difference in teh art. Most of the songs from LK 2 were when the LK was being done but werent used. So there Disney didnt have to get writers, composers, etc.


Yeah some movies shouldnt have sequels.


The animation that has been coming out of Pixar are great master piece. Some of the writers the Pixar has used to work directly for Disney. This is what happens when you dont pay those who make money for you and go to a third party that will pay them but will cost you more than before for their services. Eeven though Pixar has come out with great movies I still love to see cartoons drawn by people because it shows the hart work people go through to make a movie. With animation you just can draw one picture of the character and then changed it as you want.


Disney did run out of Ideas. I think it started when Mulan came out.

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All the sequels suck...I knew it right away when they started making them, but most of all I HATE Pocahontas 2..it's a nice movie, but...nooo :( The ending was awful!

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Someone up there mention how all Disney sequels are the same. Well, for atleast 75% of Disney animation sequels...I find this to be true.

In the case of Lion King, Little Mermaid, and Lady and the Tramp (3 of the most beloved originals) it was always the same thing. The lovely couple now have a child...who is exactly like the parent was when he/she was younger...and the parent is terrified of this fact, thus doing the (sort of) hypocritical thing and not allowing them to be that way (let's also note that the parent now lives a completely different life and have turned their back on their past).

Simba...responsible, all wise king, won't let Kiara have "Adventures"
Ariel...now entirely human, shunning the ocean, living the palace life
Tramp...a pet in the Dear household, shunning the street life

Ofcourse, I'm being too general and there are very particular circumstances that run each movie's plot. The point is, Disney figured: if the original was so good, let's do the same thing again in a sequel (hence the "children" become like the characters we know and love..and they in turn are sour :P) The recycled plot sort of also goes for Peter Pan 2, Hunchback of Notre Dame 2, Pocahontas 2 and Mulan 2.

Ofcourse, there are the exceptions, Kudos to the Aladdin sequels! And why have they not done Hercules 2!? The sequels might be under-par, but we still get to see more of our favorite disney characters!(another kudos to Disney), let's just get them to work harder on storyline and animation.

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okay this movie sucked big time, disney sequels are awful, but i will actually sit through the 2 seqeual to aladdin, i rather like them , they are quirky. I wish disney would stop bieng so money greedy, they have all lost thier souls and the knowledge of what is really important. FYI I HATE MELODY - STUPID ANNOYING BRATTY LITTLE SNOTTY B!TCH, sorry i severly dislike it.
also i know this was like lasy yr this was posted but

"Honestly, what's next? Prince of Egypt part 2 : Moses goes to space?? Come on people...get some more ideas."

It made me laugh so bloody much! I am surprised nobody else picked up on the amusmant of this little comment!

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To Aeris_forever: AUGH! THe awful awful ending of Pocahontas 2!!!! I started yellng and rewinding and rewinding....

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Disney had to stop with these sequels. If they decide to make anymore then they need to spend a little more time on them. I liked the story, but i wish melody's character, maybe the same aga as ariel in the first movie. If they make a third one, i hope the story is good. also, cinderella 2 was the worst sequel ever!!!

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omg i loved this film! there was nothin wrong with it! n so wot if the graphics were a lil mashed no film is perfect! dis film rocked n tara was gr8 as melody

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I just want to know why they made Eric gay. I mean, seriously. He comes in singing show tunes (the real Eric doesn't sing), talking about bad hair days and and wearing his sailor shirt open down to his navel. And Ariel's singing voice in this once was atrocious. If it's the same woman, they seriously needed to rethink the range they had her singing in. They did do a nice job blending Eric's and Ariel's features into Melody. And they found a cute speaking voice for her.

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The little mermaid 2 is a poor excuse of a sequel disney really stuggle pulling them off! I enjoyed the lion king 2 but it doesnt have the magic that the original has!!!! Now they are making The tinkerbell the movie, the little mermaid 3, brother bear 2 etc! i think they should have quit whilst they were ahead!

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hey it's better than Cinderella II *shudder*
Lion King 2 was pretty good...not 3 though
does the Aladdin trilogy tihngy count as sequels?

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Actually to clear things up for the the sequel list.

1. Aladdin II: Return of Jafar- never meant to be made as a movie. There was a popular tv series and the return of Jafar was nothing more than a few mere episodes pieced together. Buena Vista and WDHE decided in 1993 or in 1994 to put together a movie called Return of Jafar on a direct to video. Which yes made return of Jafar the first disney (cheapquel pieced together). However it did not make it the first movie made for direct to video.

2. Aladdin III: King of Thieves- This was the first true Disney direct to video sequel made I believe. If I am worng please feel free to correct me. This can be seen on its dvd transfer from its Jan 2005 release. Aladdin is in its widescreen format. As to where return of Jafar is Pan and Scan or full frame.
The rest that followed after these movies had had tried to make up with better animation. Which honestly from a fans POV the animation was horrible.

3. Beauty and the Beast:The Enchanted X-Mas- This was the second sequel produced in the video dept. It had a great story and all. The animation wasn't nearly as bad as the Aladdin movies. And yet I keep watching B&B, and for the life of me, as many times as Belle and Beast walk through the west wing, I still don't see Fortee. I mean is there something we all missed.
I mean he was a great villan. I loved the songs and story.

4. Lion King II: Simba's Pride- Made as a movie. ( I am not writting much more I promise)


5. Pocahontas II: Journey to a New World- Great story, crappy animation. Made for a direct movie no tv seires cut up here.

6. Pooh's Grand Adventure- Came out before Beauty and the Beast X-Mas came outin August, however it had a tv series but did not get made by cut up parts.

7. Cinderella II: Actually came from what was going to be a cartoon series. What we see here is a group of shorts that were made. The scenes with the mice were used as inbetweeners. However I think the movie is good. It is something to watch on a rainy day. However Cinderella III is comming to dvd and video in 2007. ( it is about an alternate reality of what would have happened if Cindy never made it with the help of fairy GM.) Check out preview on your Cinderella Platinum Edition.

The only other Sequel to have been cut up from a tv series other than Cindy II
Return of Jafar, is Atlantis II and Beauty and the Beast III Belles Magical World. Which were all supposed to be cartoon tv series.
Also the working title for Atlantis II was Chaos of the Shards.
However since it never made it to tv series the just put this together and here we are.

Well guy and gals I have to go to work.
Will write more when I get home.
Take care.
Brad

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EEEEEEK! Just seeing it for the forst time now! Im am so freaking livid its unbelievable! I mean, seriously, WTF?! This poor excuse for a 'movie' raped the original! TLM really put Disney back up there as the no.1, it brought it out of a diabolicle slump in its popularity. This movie is treasured by millions across the globe, you'd think Disney would have at least put the tiniest amount of effort into the storyline.

And the animation? Is that some kind of beep joke? The garish, luminous colours and the plain crappy drawings- what did they do to Ariel? And Triton looks weird as well!

And Melody? *Beep* annoying! And friggin ugly too! I cant believe Disney actually put this out there. Even the tv series that used to be on saturday mornings was done with a little bit of effort! Bad Disney!

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The worse Disney sequel? Try The Lady and the Tramp 2 or The Hunchback of Notre Damme 2.

This is actully one of my favourites.

But first is Alladin 2, Aladdin 3, Lion King 2, Lion King 3 and then this one.

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It wasn't highly disgraceful but there were enormous faults still it's a good film pointless sequel oh dear. But, and there is a but the lion king 2 is the best sequel ever made by Disney because the songs were good and it made sense.


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Anyone seen Kronk's New Groove? That's not a bad sequel, not fantastic but not the worst one Disney have made

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You sure seem to know your Disney! I thought I was the only one that cared this much. What are you? A fellow animator? :c) However, i believe you are incorrect about a couple of points.

Return of Jafar was indeed made as a full length feature film. It was produced so that the inclusion of Iago and the exclusion of Jafar would be explained PRIOR to the release of the series. Unless I'm mistaken this backfired as the movie was released AFTER the series began to air on the Disney channel. However, this film was always intended (or, at least was changes very early in the production) as a direct to video movie. I know I read this in interviews with the director (and series director Tad Stones) but just look at the production: for starters there were songs written for the movie where there were no songs for the series. Secondly there were no "act breaks" which happen in the series every 7 minutes or so to compensate for commercials (I haven't seen the film in a while so there might have been one or two, but this movie did not feel like there needed to be a commercial break every 7 minutes). It was not made with that intention.) Thirdly, and most importantly, the animation. When an episode of the series is made one production company animated it. Be it the australlian studio, the japanese studio, the french studio, Wang films, etc. In the early days when Disney produced a two part episode of a series, generally the Australlian studio would animate the first half, and the Japanese studio the second half (granted, I can only think of one example- the series debut of Darkwing Duck "Darkly Dawns the Duck"). In this film they did the same thing- however, the movie is longer than a two part episode of the series, runnin 67 minutes. Australlia animated 35 or so minutes, Japan animted the remaining 32 minutes. As long as you realize that animated series run 22 minutes and not "half an hour" you know that this equals more intended work for each studio. Is it a cheap way to make a movie (especially when the animation style suddenly changes), yeah. It is. It was a bad idea to start their direct to DVD movie division, and it has tainted the public's views of sequels ever since. However, it was officially their start into this realm. Not "Beauty and the Beast 2" or "Aladdin and the King of Thieves." Shame too. Had they begun thier direct to video production with something as polished as "The Lion King 2" or better yet something ORIGINAL, perhaps the public wouldn't hav ethis bad taste in their mouths concerning the Disney sequels.

Regarding Pocahontas 2, I just want to say on a personal note that the animation of the first half of the movie was spectacular. Right up until Pocahontas goes into the dinner with Rtcliffe and the king, and another studio (Character Builders I believe) takes over from the Japanese animators. At that point the animation AND the story fell apart. It was as though the movie was being written and animated at the same time and at that point they just gave up. HORRIBLE writing after that (why couldn't they just let John Smith die!? Pocahontas' line at the end "We walked the same path once. I have found where I belong" BETRAYED the first film. I would have been okay with her and Rolfe being a couple if John Smith were dead. She just comes off as a tramp in this situation.). The scene where Nakoma is saying goodbye and tries to be strong, but breaks into tears is some BEAUTIFUL animation that rivals many many scenes in the first movie.

Pooh's Grand Adventure was not made based on the TV series. It was intended to be a sequel to "The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh" (ironically itself a feature made up of compiling the short films released at that point).

Also, as a side note to your very thourough (and mostly accurate) descriptions of these films: Atlantis was originally going to have a sequel produced by the Movietoons (DTV) devision. Like "Return of Jafar" it was intended to be a bridge between the first movie and the TV series. However, when Atlantis tanked at the box office, this film and the series that was to follow were cancelled. At that point a lot of work had been done on the series and so rather than waste all of it, it was decided to release them as the move "Milo's Return" or whatever it's called. Since the series had a different premise than the first film, they had to re-animate some scenes and do some new animation, otherwise the three stories (not originally intended to be directly connected) wouldn't have made ANY sense.

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I agree. This film was just SOOOO terrible! It's always a bad idea to give much loved Disney characters kids, as it takes away little girl's(because, let's face it, they make up a large percent of Disney princess film fans) ability to relate to the character. Plus, we don't want to know about Melody. It's Ariel we want. So many Disney sequels are s hit but this...? And Melody is SO ugly and annoying. No wonder this went straight to video. The one good sequel by Disney that I can think of is Toy Story 2.

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Word right now is that with the new heads of Disney Feature Animation (aka MR PIXAR himself, John Lasseter :) ), these mediocre and cheaply made sequels are gonna come to a screeching halt.

Btw, is it me, or does it seem that the only people Disney can get to sing main tracks for their direct-to-video sequels are all country western singers?

One more thing-Melody turns 12 in the film, and everyone is calling her a teenager? I thought 'officially' teenage was thir-teen?

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OMG the WORST sequel ever!! Everything about it was appaullingly bad! The songs (fortunately there weren't so many), the cheap animation, the story, which doesn't really make sense, even geographically speaking (how come Melody gets to arctic territory??). The plot is absolutely ludicrous! They didn't even went throught the trouble of actually working on a story line, they just ripped off the first one and did the damn thing!

The original characters were completely ruined!
Eric became useless and mildly gay. And how come he sings in this movie?
The sight of a middle-aged, fat and balding Flounder nearly made me weep. Scuttle's contribution was just plain stupid (he was actually one of my favorite characters in TLM). Sebastian was SO unbelievably irrelevant!
And what the hell have they done to Ariel?! They completely de-characterized her. 12 years later she's shed all of her playfulness and teenage carelessness and amusing stubbornness to became this washed-out, serious, boring princess burdened with motherly responsabilities. How is that funny?? Even her hair - which is one of her hallmarks -is boring 'cause it's pinned-up most of the time.
Melody makes the whole thing especially excruciating since the story emphiseizes her mostly and she's annoying and bratty and not half as charismatic as her mother in TLM. Revolting moment: Melody atempting a hair-flip Ariel style. Talk about mockery!
And morgana?! A cheap worthless copy of Ursula! And I've never heard of such a stupid evil plot.

The whole thing was disgraceful thoroughly. Even the references of the past movie were grim and did little more than just remind me that a classic was being ruthlessly butchered before my eyes. I specially cringed at the banalization of the rainbow thing Triton does with his trident. Just because something works so beautifully once you don't have to do it over and over!

Damn all of those Disney greedy mercenaries for ruining our childhood movies!

There. Rant's over now.

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This movie shouldn't have been done in the first place, period

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I recently saw it all over again, and the exact same things that bothered me about it a couple of years ago still irk me today. The main one being, ofcourse, Melody.

If they were going to make her a little clone of her mother (but in a contrasting predicament) then why make her a bubbly annoying 12 yr old (Who JUST turned 12 no less!). Ariel had just turned 16, and you could even feel her spirit trying to break through,she was lively and spirited, adventurous and impetuous... it's only what's expected of a girl like her. All those things...at 12, just become the rambling whines of a little brat who wants to have it her way.

Another little nitpick, did it bother anyone else how all our beloved characters aged so ungracefully?! And to top that off Ariel still looks 16, even if she doesn't act like it. That last thing really bothered me, I don't mind seeing Ariel in a maternal role..but come on, you can make her seem a little more believable!

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I don't think this is the worst sequel Disney has made. (Cue Cinderella II)

But that doesn't make it good. I first saw this when I was 11 or 12 and Iloved it-same as with all Disney movies I saw years ago. But unlike movies like Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Lion King etc-which I still love now-I now can't really find anything to love about this movie.

It's average-the story was kinda lame, but it could have been worse. The animation...well, in some places it's plain horrible, in others it's ok. Ariel reminds me of Cinderella in CII (and I hated Cindys in that). She's got all boring and horrible, and yeah she's grown up, she's a mother and everything, but you don't lose all your characteristics in only 12 years. One thing that really got to me was the outfits-Ariel's outfits are just plain boring compared to the original, Melody looks like an idiot in her dress-I actually kinda like that underwear thing she wears. It suits her more then the dress lol.

The animation-well, in some places it drives me mad! In that duetthat Melody and Ariel sing, Melodys going 'my fingers are wrinkly...' There's something about that part, when she's swimming in a straight line, which just make me think she should be twirling or something.

Don't get me started on Eric. he was ruined in this movie. Change his voice, yeah, but not the entire character! He's my fave Disney prince and they ruined him!

But it's not all bad. I mean, the baby seals were really super cute!

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Most Disney sequels suck because Disney has become a creative wasteland. I mean, bravo, for taking everything Walt Disney worked his entire life to create and suck all the fun, magic, and imagination out of children's entertainment.

This movie was so ridiculous. From the second Eric flounced in singing (horribly) and Sebastian screams "AH! MORGANA! URSULA'S CRAZY SISTER!"- I knew it was gonna suck. But...that's what I get for looking at every sequel and thinking "hmm...there's a chance this may not be complete crap".

I really think that the term "wtf" is the only phrase to accurately capture how horrified and disgusted I am by this film and others like it.

Seriously... screw you Little Mermaid 2. :p

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This truly was the worst Disney sequel, but that doesn't mean they all suck. The Lion King II was nowhere near the masterpiece the original Lion King was, but it was still a wonderful movie to watch, and while not completely original it had a nice impersonation of Romeo and Juliet. Other then that, the only Disney sequel I've enjoyed was the Aladdin Trilogy, some of their first ever sequels before they decided "let's make a sequel out of EVERYTHING for a quick buck!" and thus it has time and effort put into it, and they also tied up the first movie's unanswered questions nicely. I heard Bambi II wasn't too bad, and I'm crossing my fingers that with the new flow of sequels thy're releaseing, by now they've cleaned up their act. Cinderella III doesn't sound bad either, and may even have a bit of a more mature and darker theme Disney movies had started with but lost as they began to focus on not all ages in general, but for little kids with their cheesy plots, shallow characters, ad a light and happy setting with a spoiled main character whose entire trouble throughout the movie is a stupid wish...Oh wait, that's the Little Mermaid II.

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I didn't hate this movie, but I was sorely disappointed.

TLM was my favorite, favorite movie from the time it came out all the way through college! When the sequal came out I preordered it, all excited. The whole time watching it, I kept waiting for that Disney "magic" to happen and it never did. I can count on one hand how many times I've watched this movie, whearas I have about worn out my original copy of the VHS tape. (I guess I'll have to get the DVD now.)

The rehashed story line annoyed me. Melody's modern pre-teen dialogue was out of place. Morgona as a reworked Ursula just seemed lazy to me. It never really did it for me.

TLM was also the first Disney movie my 2 year old daughter fell in love with. We watched it daily for weeks. (Never thought I would be sick of my favorite movie!) I forgot I had TLM2 but found it one day and popped it in. Even she lost interest in it about 20 minutes into it.

I don't have a lot of experience with Disney sequals, but I did really enjoy Lion King 2. My daughter asks to watch LK and LK2 equally. I recently watched Cinderella III and thought it was enjoyable as well.

I know sequals to any movie rarely live up to the standards of the original but this one would be at the bottom of my list.

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What annoys me is that everytime Disney does something remotly good, they overdo it with a second one.
Mulan was great, then they decide to make a second one
Bambi two?
Hercules the series?
Little Mermaid 3?!
The emperors new school?
......just wish they would stick to the originals

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There's a Cinderella 2? I must see that.


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This one was sooo far superior to the original.How can you say that?This movie has fantastic acting.

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I completely agree with you! This movie was horrible! I freakin wanted to kill Ariel's daughter. But it wasn't as bad as other Disney sequels. Cinderella two was the worst sequel. And Mulan 2 was awful.
The only Disney sequels I've liked were Toy Story 2, Lion King 2, and Peter Pan 2. And I actually kind of liked Lady and the Tramp 2...

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This film is an insult to the original.

I didn't even like the way the merpeople swam in this one. Sometimes they'd swim upright, like they were walking. It's all wrong!!

Where's the imagination? Where's the beauty? Where's the charm? Nowhere to be seen in this film, that's for sure!

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Well the main thing that lost the magic in this one, other than the fact that Melody seemed like a tween brat part of the time (although Ariel could've been more honest about her past, even if the merpeople part would've went against the grain of the Judeo-Christian way Melody was probably raised as a European princess. I'm surprised that Melody didn't ask how "grandpa Triton" figured in with God, but I guess Disney didn't want to go there...although I would have, had I written the script!), the fact that the animation wasn't on par to the original, and the fact that they replaced Prince Eric with another actor, I think that the songs weren't written by the Ashman~Menken duo (because of Ashman's death in 1991) made TLM 2 much less than what it could have been.

If it could've been made closer to the original film in timeline, by the original animators, voice actors, and songwriting team, then maybe it would've been a much better film.

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