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Something is wrong wih the men on this board...


What the hell is wrong with you all?

Just because someone cheats on you doesn't mean you have the right to kill them. Killing someone for their money is also wrong.

What pisses me off is that if the movie was about a woman killing a man who cheats all of you would STILL be talking about what a b!tch she must have been to "make" him cheat.

Every woman is someone's sister, daughter or mother. Hopefully no woman close to you gets killed for making a mistake. Douches.

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What pisses me off is that if the movie was about a woman killing a man who cheats all of you would STILL be talking about what a b!tch she must have been to "make" him cheat.

What a crock of shyte.

When a woman takes a knife to her husband, is there another woman on the internet who doesn't crow about how she is getting "justice" or was expressing some sort of woman-power, and how the man "obviously" deserved it and drove her to it? In that scenario, the man is *always* the aggressor, the woman is *always* the victim.

You're just throwing a sulk because the sentiment is in the opposite direction for once and doesn't fit your agenda.

Hopefully no woman close to you gets killed for making a mistake.

I definitely concur with the first part of the sentence, but "making a mistake"??

So what is it: when a man cheats, he "deserves" to be stabbed or killed or have his genitals mutilated, or his house or children taken away from him; but when a woman cheats it's just "making a mistake"?

Sure, that's so obviously fair, isn't it.



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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when a man cheats...or his house or children taken away from him


Just to get you right: If he cheats on her, she should leave her children and home then - is it that you want to say?



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Just to get you right: If he cheats on her, she should leave her children and home then - is it that you want to say?

I said what I wanted to say. If you want to say something else, have the guts to make your own point.

I doubt there's anything about your post that is intended in any way to "get me right".




You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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I said what I wanted to say


Brilliant!

If you want to say something else, have the guts to make your own point


Thats exactly what I´m always doing.

I doubt there's anything about your post that is intended in any way to "get me right".


You´re right, that should be your job.

But I don´t think it´s that important anyway

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Back under your bridge, tinybrain!


You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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Perfect and very convincing argument :D

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well it seems you like cheating on people. believe me its a disgusting way of life you living. but who cares. hollywood has a lot of material for you people.
i call it 'titanic syndrome' lol.
dont live your life negatively, woman.

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well, I think the point is that in the film, she is the first one introduced (first 5 mintues?) to appear to have done something wrong

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what i love about this thread is that the woman who posted assumes that only men are of the opinion that her cheating was inexcusable. i also love the responses from the men, right on. i'm a female and i was secretly rooting for MD as well. i've seen this movie about a hundred times and every time it comes to the ending i walk away disappointed that the cheating wife essentially learned nothing. sure, she didn't deserve to die, but her husband certainly didn't deserve to be cheated on either. if she was tired of her husband why didn't she just leave him sooner? she obviously had nothing holding her back from that since she was trying to do it after she was attacked. she was a moronic character who didn't deserve to walk away the hero of the movie. but then again that's most female leads. ._.
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"You're all talk, Hamill! You never even finished Jedi school!"

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I don't want to speak for anyone, but I believe the OP wasn't excusing cheating, she was saying you don't have a right to kill someone over it.

IMO, I believe that there is so much else that can go wrong with a relationship, and physically cheating on someone is THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO.

I think that opinion may be a cultural thing, in part.

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Unless you weren't paying attention, you would have known that MD didn't want his wife killed for being unfaithful. It was because she had money and her being unfaithful didn't help her case any. MD was in money troubles and she was richer than he ever was. I don't think MD had loved his wife for a long time as GP hadn't loved him for a long time.

What is kind of funny is that VM's character and MD's character both wanted her for the same thing. I am willing to believe that MD's character married her for her money.

Regarding VM's character. I think it appeared that he loved her at the beginning but then MD's brought the truth to light. After VM's got someone else to attempt to murder her, he started regretting his decision and really did think she got murdered. When he found out she wasn't he didn't get to the phone in time. I believe at that point he actually really did start caring about her more than he had planned. Whether or not he sent the tape to Emily out of vindictiveness to Steven or because he was trying to set his conscious straight, is left up for questioning.

If anything VM's character to me was the one to care about the most. His intentions initially were not good but I think he never wanted to kill anyone. MD killed someone, GP killed someone. VM gave the 100k to the other person to do it. Yes that is wrong but that idea didn't work actually in VM's favor. I think that if that guy would have succeeded, VM's character may have felt guilty enough to kill himself.

I don't know, I just found VM's character more likable than the rest.

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VM is a criminal. It's obvious if GP had been killed in the initial attack, VM would have taken the $400k and then blackmail another $500k with the tapes.

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I think you summed it up very well! This isn't a film about whether to cheat or not; it's about loveless marriage and materialism--greed, to paraphrase Michael Douglas' character, Gordon Gecko, in "Wall Street"! He basically plays the same role, and instead of using a young exec (Charlie Sheen) as a pawn, he marries a trophy wife to do it.

As for why Emily cheats and doesn't leave, it's not always that easy! Look how the guy (Stephen) calls all the shots, even what gown Emily will wear after she's already chosen one. As she says to her friend Raquel, "Everything has to be on HIS terms" and "He has no interest in who I really am." You get the sense, though, that she kind of hopes he'll change (most women make this mistake!) and even agrees, after the attack and Stephen's claim that David blackmailed him, to "work it out" with him! What the hell?! Emily is basically a young, inept and weak person.

I think you're also right about David (Mortensen)--that he begins the affair as a con but realizes he loves Emily. He's weak too, just as Emily and Stephen are; but in his case, it's the money, just as it is with Stephen.

Nobody in this triangle is close to perfect, but only Stephen and David are the real cold-blooded killers and users. Emily begins as a pawn, but changes to an angry, vengeful woman wo would rather kill her attacker (Stephen) than leave him. But who's to say he wouldn't have tracked her down and hired someone else to do it?

I'm really stunned how many men AND women jump right on ther "Yer cheatin'!" bandwagon against Emily! What's worse: adultery or murder? Cripes...


She deserves her revenge, and we deserve to die.

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Unless you weren't paying attention, you would have known that MD didn't want his wife killed for being unfaithful. It was because she had money and her being unfaithful didn't help her case any. MD was in money troubles and she was richer than he ever was.

YES, THIS! People seem to be forgetting or just completely missing this very important bit! We weren't given much backstory to their marriage but from the few scrapes that we were given, I got the impression that MD's character was just as much conniving, manipulative and self-serving as VM's ten-cent con-man character, just with more Machiavellian white-collar polish. When people see young attractive woman with an older man, it's easy to assume that she married him for the money. In this case, it seems like it's the other way around. This isn't to say that MD wasn't relatively wealthy to begin with, just that it seemed like she came from serious multi-generational money.

I really don't think that MD's character would go through the trouble of killing his wife just b/c she cheated on him. A frivolous fling might have been an insult but it isn't something to commit murder over. It just doesn't vibe with his character. No, something much much bigger was at stake: Money, power, his career, his company, etc. That's why when he found out about the affair, he saw it as a timely opportunity instead of a devastating tragedy. So when the people on this board are arguing about whether not Gwenyth deserved to die b/c she was bored little rich girl, they're kind of missing the point. MD's character would've had her killed regardless, at sometime or another, if the [financial] circumstances necessitated it.

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Killing is wrong no matter the reason. End of story.
Only in extreme circumstances such as family in danger etc then it might be excusable.
Also, this is just a movie...so don't get so heated about the story and viewers responses.

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Killing is wrong no matter the reason. End of story.
Only in extreme circumstances such as family in danger etc then it might be excusable.
Also, this is just a movie...so don't get so heated about the story and viewers responses.

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