Many Liberal fantasy fans are equating Orcs with Black people and there is now a trend to improve the image of Orcs in fantasy literature because of this. I think this is racist and offensive. Orcs are supposed to represent pure evil, not a race of humans. Why do Liberal fantasy fans equate an embodiment of evil with Black humans?
shareAce_Spade said everything that needs to be said on this topic. Perfect explanation.
shareWe don't equate orcs with black human beings. We equate orcs with orcs. As a previous poster suggested, read Ace_Spade's excellent post.
shareMany Liberal fantasy fans are equating Orcs with Black people
Because they are approaching the matter with the traditional Liberal sense of outrage and triggeredness we have all learned to expect. People who were not Liberal wouldn't even draw such a conclusion.
shareBecause they are approaching the matter with the traditional Liberal sense of outrage and triggeredness we have all learned to expect.
People who were not Liberal wouldn't even draw such a conclusion.
Nope. Sorry. You could not be more wrong.
shareFunny - that's what I think of your claims. But since "nuh uh" is not an argument, the ball is still in your court.
shareThat's because you approached my post in total ignorance of the situation under discussion.
shareNow, that's projection if I ever saw it. You made some pretty bald-faced claims, and you were unable to back them up. Sorry, you lose this one.
shareI'm not going to hold your hand and Google everything for you. There is a huge controversy right now about the owners of the D&D copyright totally revamping the system because in their opinion, the treatment of Orcs and other fantasy races parallels that of dark-skinned real world races. There have been outcries for decades about Tolkien's "racism" in his depiction of Orcs.
Your ignorance of the whole situation and your knee-jerk, baseless rejection of my statement makes your opinion irrelevant, so it still looks like I am actually the one to say "Sorry, you lose this one." to you.
I'm not going to hold your hand and Google everything for you.
There is a huge controversy right now about the owners of the D&D copyright totally revamping the system because in their opinion, the treatment of Orcs and other fantasy races parallels that of dark-skinned real world races. There have been outcries for decades about Tolkien's "racism" in his depiction of Orcs.
Yes, outcries from the LEFT. So this is not a LEFT fantasy, then, is it?
It IS a Left fantasy, because Conservatives are smart enough to understand that Orcs are a FANTASY RACE with no real life equivalent.
It's THE LEFT drawing the false equivalence based on their own negative views of black people. Remember, the Left are the ones who think Blacks are too stupid, ignorant and poor to know how to obtain photo ID?
Nowadays? It's because they are indoctrinated, ignorant and stupid.
But in the 90s, when you could still talk to them, they would say that they object to the concept of an entire sentient species being inherently evil. Then I would explain to them how Orcs were created, as described in Silmarillion, and they would say: "OK, that makes sense".
Poppycock! Orcs have feelings too.
shareThe orcs want to burn down anything that isn't orcish, so it's more realistic to equate them with the democrats.
shareSome people try so hard to not be racist that they come full circle and end up being racist.
shareWell, because you see... everything is politics. Always. All the time. No exceptions. And naturally, said politics concern current-day US, because duh, it's not like there's such a thing as the entire rest of the world out there, is it?
So if, hypothetically, a South African-born British man were to draw from Finnish, Scandinavian and Germanic myth to create an artificial mythology for England almost a century ago, he would necessarily be ultimately talking about 21st century US; and therefore, logically, any and every element therein would necessarily be referencing some real-world element of it. I mean, what's the alternative? Supposing one could simply imagine things that don't actually exist?
And even if, say, this hypothetical man had outright stated something to the effect of "I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence"? Well, that would just be further proof that every single thing he set down in writing was precisely that - allegory.
It's just common sense, really.