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The Communists killed the Tsar and his family, NOT Rasputin...


...But why would Hollywood let the truth get in the way when avoiding criticism of Communists? And Anastasia herself has been proven to have perished with her family. These are well-established historical facts for anyone with even a precursory knowledge of 20th Century history.

Now, frankly, maybe I'm jumping the gun on this critique, I have not seen the movie. Maybe it does show the Communists murder the Romanovs, but rather I'm basing my criticism on this description:

"Years after losing her family to evil Rasputin, Czar Nicholas'
grown daughter is able to reunite with her grandmother in Paris."

That certainly sounds to me like Rasputin is the perpetrator of the murders in this movie. I haven't found the Communist Bolsheviks specifically mentioned in any of the reviews as being the actual murderers. I wouldn't put it past Hollywood to gloss-over communist crimes and pin them on someone else, especially since the entire Bolshevik Revolution also seems to be pinned on an undead Rasputin in this movie.

I could even understand making a movie with the premise that Anastasia somehow survived, because she was definitively proven to have perished there only relatively recently, and there were rumors and speculation about her for most of the 20th Century. However, ignoring the fact that the Bolsheviks slaughtered the royal family and casting Rasputin as the demonic villain responsible for the murders is a gross distortion of history. Now many children are going to grow-up thinking that Rasputin, rather than the Communists, was responsible for these crimes (he was dead before they were murdered). I see that this movie was released in Russia, there must have been outbursts of laughter at the pathetic failure to get basic historical facts straight. Russians do generally know their own history nowadays. I realize that this is just a children's animated movie, however there would no doubt be many outraged people if such a movie misrepresented the facts about notorious crimes committed in the West. Would it have been so bad to let the Communists be the villains in the story? Would that have been bad for children? Only in the eyes of Hollywood. Shameful.

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Wait a minute. This movie isn't historically accurate? You mean there were never talking bats in Russia?

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Rasputin was gross outdated monk that looked like the Old Russia that people like Peter the Great worked hard to destroy. The progressive aristocrats in Russia hated him because he was bad for P.R. It made the Imperial Family look embarrassing and stupid.

The Czar and his family were screwed over by all the royals and world leaders in the West. Kaiser Bill put Lenin on a sealed train to Russia. Woodrow Wilson and David Lloyd George wanted Russia to be enlightened with "democracy". King George V (the Czar's doppelganger cousin) would not take him and the family to have refuge in England. America refused to join WWI until the Czar was overthrown.

Britain just sat there and allowed Russia, who was supposed to be their ally in WWI lose to the Germans. All because of Russia's bad PR image as this autocratic, no separation of church and state, violent state. Nobody summed that up more than Rasputin.

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Poor Rasputin, murdered by some effete idiots, dug up and burned by unruly soldiers and now character assasinated by a dumb movie. I don't care if it is historically accurate or not, I just wish it was not so mean. Rasputin's daughter was devastated when he was murdered. He sent money home to his wife to take care of his handicapped son. He was not a saint but he was not a monster.

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I have a history book of Anastasia that I got because I have always liked the real Anastasia and started learning more about her after seeing the animated version of Anastasia and according to what I read in the book I have Anastasia's whole family was woken up by the palace guards warning them to hide because some people were trying to attack them and the whole family had to get up early in the morning and try to find a safe place to hide so they had to live in another country where the family would be protected from harm. But all of Anastasia's family had been found dead in a prison cell along with their pet dogs. But I remember reading that Anastasia had a brother who was very sick and the family kept thinking that Rasputin would try to cure him but it is not known if her brother was finally cured of his illness. As for Rasputin there have been theories about how he died but the most well known theory is that he either drowned or died simply of old age. The reason why this version of Anastasia was made to fit for children was that 20th Century Fox made their own story of it and in the credits simply state this movie is indeed based on Anastasia and 20th Century Fox wanted the film to have a happy ending and so that's why Dimitri and Anastasia stay crushes and elope at the end of the movie. I remember seeing Anastasia when it first came out and I was blown away by the magic it had and I even have a toy replica of the music box in the film and Journey To The Past is my favorite song of the entire movie and really described Anya's feelings for her future

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This movie is pure fantasy but I enjoyed it

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It was very good.

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Obviously, this is not meant to be the true story.

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For future generations:

Don Bluth and his production partner, I forget his name, were completely open about the fact that they simply used the true story of Anastasia Romanov to create a 'new mythic fairytale.'

They never said they were making a fucking animated documentary.

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