I dont know about anyone else, but that fat black secretary sure ruined the movie for me. When she jumps off the plane and we get a shot of her in a parachute with her dumb grin, i was just hoping she would die
shareWTF?!?! I liked her, she was about the ONLY character in that movie that WAS likeable.
shareI loved the fact some super marine President dude couldn't even use a fax machine on his own.
President runs into the hostage room.
"I don't want to alarm anyone. But do any of you know how to use a fax machine?"
[silence]
"Okay...how about flying a plane?"
[silence]
"We're screwed"
I was hoping she'd get her hand trapped in the fax machine and be slowly sucked inside it while Harrison Ford is covered head to toe in her innards.
Glenn Close recieves the gore fax at the other end and dies of a heart attack.
Fade to black.
credits
Did anyone else notice that "Stupid Fat 'fax' lady" is actually credited as "Future Postmaster General"?
I'm the foot-fu ckin-master
They won so that was the humor, she would be promoted by Harrison Ford. Since obviously they are all acting, she was promoted in the credits.
Better watch out, better start crying. Better hurry up, run and hide. Krampus is coming to town! >:)
you guys are so lame. you have no life if all you can find to do in your spare time is make fun of some sweet black lady. what are you, like 12?!
shareTHIS THREAD IS RACIST....A BLACK LADY, PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO TALK WHILE THEY POST A THREAD.
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shareOmigosh, please forgive us all. Clearly we should have said stupid fat AFRICAN-AMERICAN fax lady.
shareLMAO!!! I just spit out my soda reading your post...funniest thing I've read all week. You are too funny!
sharePresidents usually have advisors taking care of everything, so they are not responsible for knowing how to work things. Obama does not even know how to use a modern cell phone.
Better watch out, better start crying. Better hurry up, run and hide. Krampus is coming to town! >:)
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Is it just me or does almost everyone here hate the 'fax' lady?
To me some of you sound a little racist.
Leave the poor woman alone,its not based on anything real,she was just playing the part as the director wanted her too,whos to say shes like that in real life?
If you wanna hate/blame someone,hate/blame the director,hes the one that scripted that into the movie not her.
You people should think about that before you start making fun of someone whos in something fictional and is obviously just playing the part as the director wanted and not being the person she is in real life.
God damn you people who critize here,you all need lives,that or brains,or perhaps a brain enhancement if you already have one.
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No worries,but it really needed to be said.
I hope that will bring others more sense.
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You'd like that wouldn't you?
I made one point about rascism.
I can say my opinon on the matter just as much as you can,so don't call me paranoid.
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Ya know, in this thread I must have seen some variation of this question a dozen times "why was she grinning?".
Do you mean to tell me that between all of you people who so fast to put this woman down and insult her, not one of you can come up with a plausible reason for her to be grinning??
Let's leave the obvious for a moment, since someone with intelligence finally made the point that the actress obviously did exactly what she was told to do. The age old answer to all similar questions "because the script said so".
Fine, let's look at the character, the situation etc.
She has every reason to believe that all will be good now, that all the remaining hostages will be safe... herself included.
She's thrilled her parachute opened.
Despite the situation, she is likely a little overwhelmed with the fact that she is parachute diving! Her character doesn't seem like the type of person who has ever done anything "extreme" or dangerous like this before, so to be actually doing this, to be flying through the air... I am sure would have been an exhilarating feeling. People who parachute for the first time often speak of the sense of euphoria that comes over them.
You made a good point.
There's nothing to hate about the fax lady, except that she's plumper than the usual Ally-McBeal-type women.
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she wudnt be smiling, cos she just got thrown from a plane where loads peoeple got shot, she's about to land in god knows what of a country, and maybe on a craggy hill, and not just that we were making fun of how she smiled not why she was doing it.
she smiled like an idiot, like someone who died whilst having sex, whilst being stoned, whilst being frozen in that exact position and being stuffed into a parachute...with several layers of fat.
and to the person having a go at us havign a go at the woman who played the fax lady.
we weren't.
you see if we were having a go at her, then we wudnt call her fax lady, since she is quite obviously not a fax lady, but an actress.
NASA spent thousands developing a pen that would write in space. The Russians used a pencil.
that was as far away from an euphoria grin as it gets. she was grinning like she was at a theme park or something. considering that she was just thrown off a plane where multiple people were killed, that she never used a parachute before in her life, that she doesn't have proper training for landing, etc., i think she would be screaming in terror and *beep* her pants with passion at that very moment, not grinning.
that moment was way over the top, utterly ridiculous, and completely unnecessary, that's why it stuck out so much. oh, and race, sex, and weight of the character in this particular situation doesn't matter. it's just that out of place.
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I don't usually subscribe to the "race card",
but I have to wholeheartedly agree with you, AW.
She was definately gutsy AND knowledgeable of the systems on the plane. If it hadn't been for her, they wouldn't have gotten the word to drop altitude and airspeed.
Ol' gal definately had it together!
Refusal to believe does not negate the truth.
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I AGREE........FAX LADY PWNS ALL {LOL, J/K} :)
The director picker HER for a reason too!
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What are critics for?
Someone a little mad because the only black person on the whole plane made it out alive? hmm
shareHaha, thats the best one ive heard on this topic. Sadly no thats not the reason. I mean im brown, so i guess i can still be racist to blacks, but I am not.
A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti
A couple of black people made it off the plane.
I didn't see anything wrong with the fax lady. She was very helpful, and the reason she was smiling was because she was being helpful. She was able to stay calm in a dangerous situation.
Does sound like there's a bit of ignorance on the board.
She was smiling when she got off the plane because...HELLO she was gettin' off the plane and as stated earlier, her shoot opened and she will probably have a safe landing.
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Some people here are being mean on purpose... some are being mean as a joke... and the rest of us are on the floor laughing.
They used to say that if a million monkeys went banging away on a million typewriters, they would eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet--and especially this thread--this has proven to be untrue.
Supermodels...spoiled stupid little stick figures mit poofy lips who sink only about zemselves.
She was smiling because she was going to be the next Postmaster General.
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Ok...that's really amusing to see AnimeFreak91...especially after reading all the posts people mentioned. It's interesting because I just watched the movie tonight before reading all these posts and remember thinking that her smiling seemed "out of place" in comparison to the rest of the movie. Overall, I think the film is very good but as a director myself, sometimes we make mistakes.
shareThe movie was a great movie which i watch a couple of times and there was nothing out of place with the fax lady whom will be the next postmaster general. Don't you think the advisor would be smiling if he was going to be secretary of defense or vice president. The fax lady's role was very significant in the movie hence why it was put in. the general or the secret service guy or some well educated person who went to yale could of made the suggestion but didn't because it was to firvalous for them to know. Refer to the comment made in the situation room by secretary of defense 'they did not teach you that at yale.' or was that an oversight to some of you all critics who think you really take the entire movie for it's greatness.
i would think that i would rest my case here ....but there were quite a few little things that was included in the movie that made this movie what it was .... to you who don't like the future postmaster general ....i would say watch the movie again and try to indentify her significance as well as the grey haired guy sitting at the table writing on a 4x6 pad or something.
Yes but I'm not convinced hers is a vital role as what I can recall from the movie there a couple of tense scenes where you see her fax being ignored and then the plane comes along and tells them to drop to 15,000 feet anyway! Correct me if I am wrong but we never see anyone pick up the fax - given the build up they give to it you would have thought they would have showed that wouldn't you?
'Vice President...Vice President! I think you wanna see this...'
'....Oh my God...CALL THE FUEL PLANE!!!!!!!'
I'm guessing it was cut from the movie to save time as the producers were under the pretence that even ignorant mother *beep* would realise the fax was received when the pilot of the plane is asked to drop to exactly 15,000 feet. No offence.
shareUntil I read this thread, I believed I was the only who thought, "What is she grinning about!?" Dozens of people have been killed but you're happy because you have just been made Postmaster General and got to parachute out of danger. Hopefully she landed in Kazakhstan and they put her in the same prison as the one Radek was in.
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After the fat black woman goes out of shot, rumour has it the parachute snaps.
share*hit, I'd be smiling if I was her too. *uck all the other people on the plane. You shouldn't have given me the parachute. Here's what I would have said as I was jumping off the plane. Adios you dumb son's of *itches !!!
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she loves to fax!
Where there's smoke, there's barbecue!
That lady's grin was kind of stupid. I thought the same thing.
shareWow. We have some stupid, racist people here.
oh, BTW. She may have been smiling because she was glad to be safe and was enjoying here time up there. Many people jump out of planes and parachute to saftey for the hell of it and the fun of it.
So perhaps maybe you should think about that for a little bit.
No it ruins the whole point. Why would you smile right when you jump out of a plane. Parachute strapped or not, there's still a chance something could happen when you land, or before you land that will change your whole trip. Her smiling was stupid, and yeah it made you want her to die because she wasn't only annoying, she was a waste of camera time.
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SHE WAS THE *beep* AINT NOONE CAN FAX UNDER PRESSURE LIKE THAT HO!!
shareAgreed! Respect is due to the TFFxL!!
--Myk
Where is she now?
I am McLovin!!!
Behold! http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0293522/
Doesn't seem as though she's done much since AF1 - new film out this year...
It's very interesting to see that her favourite part of the entire movie is the part that we're all talking about!
--Myk
"What I thought in that moment was "Geez, mustn't it be freezing cold up there"
Ding Ding we have a winner. She would not be smiling if for no other reason than she would be freezing her damn butt off. Floating through the air at 15,000 feet, in the night time (no sun warmth), over cold Soviet air space, plus not wearing suitable clothing.
Perhaps that was not a smile but instead her mouth was stuck frozen open, showing her pearly whites LOL. It was the goofiest scene in the entire movie, though there were a few more not far behind in the "biggest eye roll" contest.
Are you telling me that no one has ever smiled parachuting off a plane?
"When you make a move out of stress or anger, it always ends in catastrophe."
-Bobby (2006)
No. We're telling you no-one would smile parachuting off of a plane on which several people have been shot, not to mention several people are still being held hostage (the President's wife and daughter). Furthermore, we're telling you that any character who proves to be an exception to this rule gives up their right not to be called a "stupid fat 'fax' lady".
shareWell she was happy to get off the deadly plane
All this feels strange and untrue
And I won't waste a minute without you
-Snow Patrol
Correct.
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