Political Correctness.....


Seen this movie a few times, and I was just watching it on Encore. They removed all references to Islam and Infidels, why does Hollywood spend so much time trying to make compromises to people that will always hate us. That will behead you simply for not only, not being Muslim, but not being their type of Muslim.

Hollywood.....GROW A PAIR !!!!!!!!

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Funnier still is it will all be put in there in the first place to get people who may be thinking or anticipating this to be the case in the movie to begin with, then it is changed later on.

In the end, it doesn't matter.

This movie could be ripped from ever being shown again because BD Wong is gay or Kurt Russell isn't married to Goldie Hawn. It isn't the people who are allegedly offended that is the problem, it is that outer-ring group going "this will offend someone."

We don't know who or why, but they will be offended!

It's what we are still seeing today with Duck Dynasty, Paula Deen and now Bill Cosby; someone will get upset, let's cover it up and act like it was never there.

Hell, this is what Hollywood did during the Viet Nam war. Let's not reference to it or make a movie about it or comment on it, the entire time it was going on.

All the movies about it came out afterward. Compare that to the WWII flicks.

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especially jew people wants people hate to muslims. and this is another play of media. using muslim names, and Allah, Allahu Ekber and islam, and charging terrorist things on them.. ta daaa people look at muslim people like a bogyman and hate them. nice try but people knows that anymore "there is no killing in islam's book. you can't kill nobody and yourself."

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Oh yeah sure, it's all those Jews and Christians running around with ISIS killing and beheading anyone who doesn't agree with them. Oh wait, no it's not, THEY call themselves Muslims. You are either delusional or agree with them. Your idiocy only works on those who do not know history.

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ISIS kills real muslims. Not jews or christian people. They kills sunni muslims. Because zionists feed them for this. And yes they call them muslim because the aim is that! Offering islam like a terrorist religion. Nice try! But people don't lose their mind as to believe as that game.

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Tell the Yazidi's they are in no danger if they stay in their homes. Or the Christians who just escaped Iraq to Slovakia that they are in no danger. Or the Kurds that they are in no danger.

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Hmmm. I'm watching this on Encore East HD on DirecTV. All of the original references to Islam, Qu'ran, infidel, etc are still here.

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I'm watching it now on Encore, and the original dialogue is there.

However, I did see this a couple of years ago on Encore, and it most definitely had been dubbed as others have pointed out. I took note at the time of what network was running it. The dialogue had been edited, but not the closed captioning, which is what made me take notice of it in the first place.

The movie was playing the next day on HBO, and I recorded it and skipped to the scenes in question, and the original dialogue was intact.

I can only assume that the studio or owners of the film must have put together a "non-Islam" version for distribution to be "PC", since the dubbed version used the original actors voices. I don't think Encore alone could have done that. For whatever reason, Encore now appears to have gone back to the original.

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"by GMCKINST-1 ยป Wed Aug 13 2014 13:03:49
Seen this movie a few times, and I was just watching it on Encore. They removed all references to Islam and Infidels, why does Hollywood spend so much time trying to make compromises to people that will always hate us. That will behead you simply for not only, not being Muslim, but not being their type of Muslim.

Hollywood.....GROW A PAIR !!!!!!!!"


This movie was released in 1996. You and most of the idiots complaining had never heard of Islam in 1996. Stop your whining and grow your own pair so you can stop living in fear of an enemy that doesn't care two shi#ts about you.

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Oh please, I have studied history all my life, consequently I know a great deal about the problems of Islam. Like how the entire Middle East was Judeo-Christian until Mohammed started a religion and ordered Jihad.
Or how the Crusades were a response to Muslims taking over the Holy Land and then conquering Europe. Until they were pushed back. At one point Muslims controlled about 65% Europe, including France, Portugal, and Spain etc.
Or how about the newly formed United States having to build a powerful Navy specifically to fight back Muslims attacking our ships throughout the Mediterranean. Killing thousands and taking many as slaves,(ISIS is not new, just a new name). We were being ordered to pay the Jizya, a protection tax. Besides the Muslims kept attacking anyway. After years of this Jefferson refused to pay. The Marine Hymn has the line "From the Halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli", that is where that came from. Marines are called "Leathernecks" because they used to wear thick leather straps to avoid having their heads chopped off.
During World War II, the Muslims were allied with the Axis Powers, that is why we spent so much time in Northern Africa.
Right up to the last few decades of terrorist attacks all over the world. Major Nidal Hasan did not attack and kill at Fort Hood because he had a bad day. His "God" told him to kill. That motivation will not be ameliorated with giving in, or saying sorry, or saying "please don't hurt us"!!
A Muslim man in London England chopped off the head of a British Soldier in broad daylight because he was walking through the "Muslim Area". And because "God" told him to.
This problem did not start on 9/11/2001, it has been with us for centuries. Ignoring it will not make it go away. Continually giving in and trying to not insult a bully just invites the bully to cause more harm.

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Muslims did not conquer France.

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Please check your history. Look up The Moors !!!

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711 Tariq invades Iberian peninsula. Next two decades Umayyad army continues to move north. Crosses the Pyrenees. By 732 the Umayyad army operating out of Narbonne despite an earlier loss at Toulouse(721) had moved north thru Aquitaine and met the Frank's led by Charles Martel at Tours where they were defeated and their leader killed. Charles pursued and defeated the Umayyad armies but failed in his siege of Narbonne and isolated the Umayyad to SE France near Italian border. Narbonne fell in 759. At NO time did the "Moors" CONQUER France. They were pushed back over the Pyrenees and Charlemange established the Spanish March in 795. A buffer zone in northern Spain.

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65% of Europe? Where do you get such nonsense? Does this include Russia and Scandinavia? France? Sorry no. They slowly lost land on the Iberian peninsula at the same time they gaining the Balkans. They failed twice to take Vienna. 65%? Sorry, no.

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The movie is awesome. I have never seen the entire thing but have seen enough to like it over the years, as it was a Saturday night classic on TNT I believe. It is showing on Cinemax again in the USA.


Unfortunately, the terrible dubbing towards the end where David Suchet's character is being threatened by one of the terrorists is very clearly, very badly dubbed. Clearly done to remove all religious references.

And it seems that the original dub refers to Algeria; this one definitely referred to Aldonia.

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I own the DVD and references to Islam and Infidels are still intact.
This is why physical media should never die.

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"This is why physical media should never die."
That's exactly right.

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i thought you mean the special forces team - a chinese man, hispanic man & black man in team. this film is ahead of its time in 1996 with PC representations.

i suppose joel silvers is original pc producer who demand diversitys in his film!

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