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Rape + the way that you dress. Does it have an effect?


I'm doing a report on this subject. Would anybody like to give any feedback on this? My opinion on it is no matter what the other person is wearing, that doesn't give the other person a right to take advantage of them. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

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People, I think some of you are missing a very important point:

A normal, healthy man (assuming he is straight, of course) would be attracted to a sexy woman. He probably would want to sleep with her and might even fantasize about it. A sexily dressed woman would not turn him into a rapist though. A rapist is a rapist no matter what. They pick their victims based on all sorts of things. Height, weight, age, profession, race, etc.

To think that you're somehow making yourself safe by dressing conservativley is a joke. Unattractive women, elderly women, women to young to even be sexual, and very conservative women are often the victims of rape. Rape is not about sexual attraction, it is about power, violence, and humiliation hidden behind a sexual act.

A rapist will be a rapist no matter what you wear and there just isn't evidence to suggest that rapists are more likely to attack a woman in sexy clothing.

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I agree with the above poster. I feel that if women do wear sexy clothing, it makes it a lot easier for someone to justify their actions and as has previously been written, it asserts that the victim of this crime was somehow to blame. Also in today's society, one of the most common forms of rape is date rape in that you are normally raped by someone you know or are already in contact with. In a lot of these cases, I'm pretty sure sexy clothes do not even come into the equation.

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ywah, i never seem to hear about a girl wearing sweats and baggy clothes getting raped

Maybe you should stop watching those pornos and start watching the news then?
I can't count the number of times I've read about a woman who was in bed, asleep when someone broke into her house and raped her. Do you really think those women wore a sexy little dress and heels to bed? What about the elderly women who get raped? Do you really think the majority of them were wearing belly shirts and hot pants when they were attacked?

Rape does not happen because of what someone is wearing.

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I do think so...

once hannibal said: We desire what we see...

I think that mainly rapist are obssesed with their victims...

of course there are others who just act all by themselves


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Oh yes, I think it has an affect- not only in how you dress, but how you act. You ever hear of Mennonites or Amish people being raped? It does happen, but not NEARLY to the extent.
Does it justify it? Not in a million years. Men are usually pigs and I don't mind saying so despite being male because it's true. But I believe actions and dress do play a part.

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How would you know how much sexual assault there is in the amish community?

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So by your logic, since we're all just animals, when we're out in public and you do something that pisses me off (i.e. say something insulting) and I murder you on the spot (i.e. releasing my natural murderous rage onto you), you were asking for it and the blame is entirely on you.

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You are talking about murder, which is not acceptable anywhere.

Rape is acceptable somewhere? Perhaps in stupid, backwater countries - or among ignorant, uncivilized people - but certainly not in any civilized place.

And "civilization" is the key here. It's exactly the thing people have developed in order to keep animalistic impulses in check. And I'm afraid animalistic is animalistic - if it's the girl's fault you release your animalistic rape impulses on her; ipso facto, it's your fault I release my animalistic murder impulses on you.

More and more girls in the western world are accepting the fact that if they were to put on a miniskirt when they go out clubbing, there is a very high chance they will end up getting raped before the night is out.

This is one of the most idiotic fallacious statements I've ever seen. Please produce EVIDENCE that "more and more girls in the western world are accepting" this fact. This is some fantasy cooked up in your brain.

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While it's possible that paradroid21 was raped himself (or is mentally disabled), I suspect instead that he's an adolescent or teenage boy with an obsession developed through real or imagined mistreatment by women (perhaps his mother or prospective "girlfriends").

He claims in some of his posts that he has a girlfriend that loves both rough anal sex and watching rape scenes with him (consisting, I imagine, of plastic or rubber) and that he's been having sex for "several years". I don't know his age, but if I wrote the same thing (and it was true), it would suggest I was 16-18 years old (since I began having sex at the age of 13).

He also appears to conflate fantasy with real life - suggesting in many, many posts that because some women have fantasies about rape, this somehow means that they are amenable or accepting of being raped in real life. This is further evidence of his immaturity and undeveloped brain. Perhaps the 21 in his name is his age, and he's just a very dense and stunted 21-year old.

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This has already been researched before and statistic will show that most women who get raped were not wearing provocative clothing at the time.

Like someone said above, maybe it makes like a difference in 1% of rapes but normally it doesn't make a difference. A rapist will do his nasty deed regardless of what a woman wears. His method of operation is usually based on age and a certain look. The fact that serial rapists many times go after normal appearing business woman refutes the claim that wearing skimpy clothing is a magnet for rapists.

Either way, no matter what someone is wearing they aren't asking to be raped.

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Rape is not about sex or anything sexual it is about power. It is about one person exherting their power over another, not for sexual gratification, but simply because they feel the need to proove to others just how powerful they are. People who commit these types of crimes often go for people who they believe will not be taken serious or people who they feel will not go forward to the police. This is a mechanism that they use so that they do not get caught. Statistics show that rape is often a crime of oppurtunity and that victims are not usually chosen for their choice of provocative clothing or because of who they are seen with, but because they were there and the perpetrator had a chance to commit the crime with a lesser chance of getting caught then if he were to do it elsewhere. There are different types of Rapes, Date Rape, Stranger Rape and Aquantence Rape, we are taught that it is the stranger lurking in the dark who is out to cause us harm, however the majority of rapes and other personal crimes are usually committed by people that the victim knows, less than 5 percent of all rapes and Sexually based crimes are committed by strangers. The majority of victims never come forward, most deal with their pain in silence because of the stigma that is attached to victims of such crimes. Women know that should they go forward what they were wearing manages to sneak its way in and other such things that do not matter, which in effect persecutes the victim rather then the offender. No matter what, nothing gives anyone the right to commit any violent act upon another. What the victim is wearing, who the victim associates with, or what the victim works at none of this matters, it does not take away from the fact that they were violated and that a crime was committed against them. Victims should not be blamed for crimes committed against them.

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"I think the way you dress, however, can definitely provoke the man to rape you."

That's not the case. At the very most, someone with the intent to rape may - just possibly - fix on someone dressed more attractively than another. However, the statistics don't really support even that view.

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I once read a letter from a rapist who said that women dress like hookers accept dances and drinks and then act like they're the Virgin Mary afterwards so I think a short skirt, low cut top etc will make a woman more likely to be targeted by some rapists who have Madonna-Whore complex about women but other rapists don't let dress sense a factor in who they rape. In a survey recently a suprisingly high percentage of people (I can't remember the exact figure) said that if a woman dresses provocatively she is partly responsible for being raped. Disturbing.

As far as rape being about violence or sex I think it varies depending on the rapist. Date rapes are more likely to be about wanting to have sex with the woman whereas rapes on men in prison or elderly women are more about humiliation. There may be some rapists who get aroused by violence and degrading people so its a bit of both with them. Thats my opinion anyway.

Rapists aren't all the same so there are no 100% conclusions about these issues.

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"Date rapes are more likely to be about wanting to have sex with the woman whereas rapes on men in prison or elderly women are more about humiliation."



...and "Date rapes" are the most common, by far. I guess that ends that.










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Date rape involves the use of drugs to control the individual.

Sort of smacks of control first, sex later - and an attempt to avoid the consequences. Because, with the use of drugs, nobody can make the fatuous claim: "She asked for it."

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Uh, not always. There was date rape waaaaay before rufies, my man.









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True - except that most date rape sans drugs involved copious amounts of booze disguised as weaker drinks. Same ol' same ol'.

Very few were actually about sex: because sex is an act between two willing participants, both of whom are in control (or who willingly hand over control). Remove the control, without consent, from one person and it's no longer about sex. It's about power.

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Maybe a little bit. Like a rapist will go after a woman in a skirt because she's easier to access, if you know what I mean.

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'Men are usually pigs and I don't mind saying so despite being male because it's true'
Crabring, what the **** are you talking about? usually? i don't care if you are a male yourself, it's still ****ing sexist! WTF?

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I don't believe it usually matters how you dress but of course there are some causes where it does apply. I believe rape is based more on how you act. If you seem weak or he feels he could dominate you. Rape are usually planned so you dressing seductively on a night out will not get you raped.

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If rapes are based on what women wear then why does it seem that a disproportianate amount of women are raped in middle eastern countries where they are can't even show their ankles or wrists? why are babies and young girls frequently raped in warn-torn African countries? and why then, at Burning Man (a weeklong festival in the desert of 38,000 people) where there tons of naked people running around, and very many people on drugs, is their virtually no reported rape cases? rape is very much tied into violence.

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Thats a good point uraban pixie but the men that commited the act and the ones that looked on and did nothing are husbands/ fathers and would never do such a thing in normal circumstance. Yet in a pub, when they saw her dancing around in a skimpy outfit- they probably used some warped commen sense and thought "she's asking for it". Obviously no excuse though. This makes sense considering the waitress or any other girl present in the room wasn't attacked.

So I believe that the way you dress does have an effect ONLY if its relative to something else. My wife for example works in an office and most days - she is dressed casually - flats, trousers etc. Even though she comes home late, I just say "see ya later" when she leaves and think nothing more.

However, during the days when she has conventions/ important meetings, she'll be dress in a typical office suit and skirt and high heels and when she leaves, I actually say "take care tonight when walking home, cya later". Now why did I say "take care tonight" when she is dressed like this and don't bother during other times? It's becasue i believe that she seems more vulnerable dressed like that then when she is casually dressed.

Other examples - magazines that sell products/ pornographic magazines have women dressed provocatively. Not an obese lady in an anorak.

Therefore, in conclusion, the way you dress COMPARED to the normal surroundings will have an effect. A female will get more attention if she is in a dress and heels rather than trousers and sneakers. Therefore, an opportunist attacker, given the chance, would go for the attractive looking outfit rather than the other.



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That is true I have to admit in some regards...like when i was walking around Baltimore (where I used to live) in business clothes....which entailed a skirt, I got way more catcalls...and when I was wearing jeans and a hoodie I never felt uncomfortable getting out of my car in the ghetto to ask for directions., whereas if I was wearing a miniskirt I made my friends get out of the car and get directions as to avoid unnecessary attention....sometimes I feel its so retarded though, I'm wearing no makeup, I look like *beep* I'm driving my car, and guys are like "oooh baby" and I'm like....I look like CRAP...what the *beep* is W ONG with you..and I think it's not so much the slutty outfit at the opportunistic outfit...like if your wearing on spray painted jeans that require a lever to get off, slutty as that may be, that requires a lot more effort than a skirt. When I need to walk home by myself I always wear sneaks so I can run if necessary (and I'm a fast funner so I bank on that) and never EVER heels. And usually a hoodie I pull over my head so I can pass as a 13 year old boy (cause I'm pretty skinny) and not a girl....

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But, johnsmithguinness, that doesn't explain the point at all.

Incidence of rape increases during war. Soldiers - most of whom would NEVER consider rape - DO rape women in wartime, especially after battle. This has happened forever. None of those rapes had anything to do with what the person wore.

The way you dress has much less effect than you might think. You cannot think in normal terms because rape is not a normal act. Think about it another way:

If rape is about sexual desire, maybe you have a point. But it's not. It's about power and control - and the sexual URGE. In which case anyone who appears VULNERABLE will do nicely.

If a woman dresses "provocatively", she may be giving the message that she is "easy". In which case, why the need to rape?

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You are right with regards to the war thing. But I was trying to be as closely related to the film as possible.

i.e why was it sophie tobias that was attacked but not the other women in the area, or the waitress. And thats why I said that dressing provocatively compared to area you are in will mean you are more likely to be attacked.

If the event surrounding Sophie tobias was power and control and not s exual desire, then why did they chose her and not the waitress? it is becasue of the whole package where an attractive petite and vulnerable woman was completely drunk and dressed in an appealing way.

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But think about it. She was, in your words, "completely drunk" - and in no fit state to fight off anyone or to get help, unlike the waitress.

That is what makes it about power, and not about attractiveness.

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Question for all you women out there...even if there is the slightest chance that dressing "slutty" will increase the probability of you getting raped, harrassed, hit on, etc...why do it? Men obviously are not the most evovled of the sexes, so why even do it? I'm not condoning violence against women, I'm asking a simple question here. Why do it? Especially when you KNOW that if a man sees a woman dressed like that he's probably going to assume that she's liberal at best, easy at worst.

I know, I know, women have the right to do and dress however they want...but look at it this way...I have a right to walk through Harlem in the middle of the night wearing a Rolex watch. Would I do it? F U C K no!!! Are you crazy?

Obviously, as a man, I have a different perspective, but it just blows my mind at some of the clothes I see women wear to clubs or bars. I look at it like playing russian roulette...not every pull of the trigger is going to kill you, but all it takes is one. Likewise, not every man that sees you dressed like that is going to assume he can have is way with you, but all it takes is for one sick bastard to spot you...

...just my two cents...

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After what I've written before about the way my wife sometimes dresses, your post got me thinking, then got me worried and so I actually put your point to her.

Basically, she said that she just couldn't and won't spend her young life living under a robe. She enjoys dressing up, all women do. They feel attractive for sure, feel good when they get attention, and as she puts it "high heels maks her feel a milion dollars". (makes me feel bankrupt as she spends my wages!!!!)But her point is that you just can't live your life worrying about things like that. Just add some caution-dont walk alone, or if you have to stay in a busy area etc. She said that dressing provocatively does not increase the chance of getting attacked. but being dressed provocatively in a lonely place, or in a pub all by yourself whilst completely drunk will.

Of course no men have the right to do that but it does increase the chance. But you are right jesse, wear a rolex for sure, but not at 2am walking through Harlem.

I wasn't enitirely happy with my wife's answer though. so i just have to hope she excersises caution and that if she goese out with friends, no one leaves each other alone or allows each other to get completely drunk and just hope that all other women in the world do the same. Whilst you should all feel liberated to dress how you want, unfortunately, just take into account that 99.9% of men are still animals. I apoligise unreservedly for this.

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This is such a tough, sensitive subject. I hope I didn't offend anyone. I have a wife, daughters and a mother and my question was asked to gauge whether or not other people share my views. I pray that none of the women in my life ever have to go through this horrible ordeal. However, in my opinion, if dressing a little more conservatively minimizes the risk of them being attacked, then I'm all for it. Thank you for the positive post johnsmithguiness...too many people are so quick to post childish, negative comments just to illicit a similar reaction. It's encouraging to see that there are still some intelligent people left.

To the rest of you, let's keep this discussion going!!!

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You're a racist pig, jessecalderon2. Not only that, but you're just plain stupid. Then again, all of you people are. Just demonstrates how white people have operated for centuries.

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HeavenlyVision33....why are all your posts so negative???

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Jesse made no racist comment. YOU'RE the racist one saying all white people are this way. You stereotyping b@stard.

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Men obviously are not the most evovled of the sexes



just take into account that 99.9% of men are still animals.


Men are not the most evolved? 99.9% of men are animals? What does that make women? I guess they're all perfect and superior and can do no wrong nor can they take responsibility for their own actions. Where do you people get such ignorant assumptions from? For everyone that claims that men are sexist against women, it seems hypocritical that the same thing is happening to men. When you look at the media, you see nothing, but male bashing. As for the two quotes above, it must be great to tear down your own kind if both of you are men. I guess some guys really are ashamed of what they are.

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I think that sometimes it may play a minor role, but is far from the main cause.

Really everyone who put forward an ingelligent answer here is right. Rape is caused by sexual desire and/or power. Dressing in skimpy outfits might provoke the rapist, but even if your wearing a monks robe and hood then theres still a chance.

Its like walking around a bad area of town wearing a watch. There's a higher chance that people are going to rob you for it, but even if you take it off then there's still a chance their going to get you.

Every woman i know who dresses up for parties, nights out etc.. dresses to look good because they feel good about it and enjoy the 'power' it gives them. It will of course, bring about male fantisies, but even if they didn't have the mini-skirts, high heels, short tops etc.. the chances of being raped do no decrease, if anything they increase (granted not by much). But even in jeans and jacket theres still that chance of rape occuring.

My final words are that rape is always going to happen, no matter what a person is wearing. I also add that scumbag rapists should have their nuts crushed between two stones.

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Theirs obviously a lot of contrasting opinions in this thread so i'll add my little bit for what it's worth.Of course no woman deserves to be put through and ordeal like this.

However people who keep reiterating that fact on here are more than likely decent human beings who would never get involved in such an act of violence.
I keep hearing the quote that rape is just an act of violence and control,wake up people,do any you honestly believe that the rape carried out in this movie had nothing to do with lust?

Lets look at all the facts,from the beginning,this was a rough bar mainly frequented by men,drinking done in these kind of bars is normally quite heavy.From the moment Jodie Foster's character entered that bar she started to turn heads,she was a pretty girl and she dressed very sexy,so far no harm done.
However once she had left the bar and entered the other room it became a whole new ball game.

She thought she was out for a bit of innocent fun, dancing and covorting with a couple of guys,however the situaton was turning dangerous very quickly,these guys we're all loaded and they had a pretty young thing thrusting her hips and pouting at them,at one point she was even kissing Danny, so he's obviously very worked up and so are the crowd that had now gathered by then.

In NO WAY WOULD I EVER CONDONE RAPE,however i can see how things did turn ugly quickly,in this situation and that's why the defence did try to blame the woman.Lets be honest i think a lot of the rapes people are speaking of on here are PREMEDITATED,this one was not in my opinion,events that took place in that room before the rape ultimately lead to the violent and horrific crime this little lady suffered.

Or put another way,if the lady who was raped had not gone into that backroom alone that night and behaved the way she did,would you have left that bar a rape victim?

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My uncle is a psychiatrist who has studied the psychology of rape and he believes that rape is usually motivated by lust and according to him although elderly women can get raped attractive young women are more likely to be targeted by rapists.

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A lot of victims of crime do something that might make it a bit more likely that the crimes would occur. Eg a bloke might feel like a walk late at night, go out and get mugged. Someone might walk down a street talking into a mobile and get attacked and robbed of it. A lot of factors might contribute to creating the conditions in which a crime might occur apart from the decision of the criminal to commit it. But the point is that RESPONSIBILITY for it occurring rests with the criminal. So the fact that Sarah wore sexy clothes etc is irrelevant to the responsibility for the crime. A normal response of a bloke might be to ask her to dance or try to chat her up. She could be said to be acting in a way that might invite some kind of response, such as those. An abnormal, and criminal, response was to rape her.

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^^^
Exactly

As soon as she told that man to stop he should have stopped

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I have just read an article on the issue of rape and according to the article they way a woman dresses doesn't have an effect in the majority of cases but being young and attractive makes a woman more likely to get raped.

The article says that there are different types of rapists. The most common type is the Power Reassurance Rapist who doesn't use any more force than is necessary to overpower the victim, will spend some time with their victim and behave like a boyfriend by doing things like complementing his/her appearance. This kind likes to express their power through sex and will usually threaten to use a weapon. Another type is the Power Assertive Rapist who likes to prove how "manly" he is through extreme violence, he will be more violent than is necessary to overpower his victim and will generally feel no guilt about the suffering he inflicts. A rapist who hates his victim (usually because he hates women) is an Anger Retaliatory Rapist, this type is using rape as a form of revenge and their victims are usually so badly injured they need hospitalization. The worse kind of rapist is the Sexual Sadist because this type gets sexually aroused by causing their victims suffering so will hurt them as much as possible. The article also said that men are more likely to commit rape when they are drunk or on drugs.

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Interested to know, posters have mentioned the different types of rapists and situations that rape occurs in, and that a majority of rape is commited by a person that the victim knows. I will concede that a rape is an act of violence and power, but rape in itself is defined an being unconsented, so in that case couldn't it be that rape is usually commited on a grand scale due to sexual frustration? I'd seen a foreign film once that contained a rape between the main characters. The main male character was in lust of the female, who had no interest in him, yet knew about his sexual desires towards her, yet flaunted her promiscuity around him. It was wrong for him to rape her, but wasn't it also wrong of her to walk around nude while he was around, have sex with his companions - while he was in the room - discuss matters of a sexual nature with him, yet decisively deny him the opportunity to have consenting sex?

Also at which point does a sexual encounter become rape? Here in australia we have government adverts against rape and in the "situations" one of them is, we went back to my place to have sex, we were having sex, she decided she wanted to stop I didn't.

And to answer the original question, if the rape occurs like in the above "situation" there is a likely possibility that because of the woman's appearance and clothing the man had assumed she might give out. But if it was a rape by a pathological woman hating power crazy individual, clothing probably wouldn't have factored into it.

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wasn't it also wrong of her to walk around nude while he was around, have sex with his companions - while he was in the room - discuss matters of a sexual nature with him, yet decisively deny him the opportunity to have consenting sex?

Yes, it was morally wrong of her - but irrelevant legally - obviously not a criminal offence and no defence to rape. His behaviour was far more morally wrong as the law recognises, by labelling his behaviour, not hers, a criminal offence. What you are missing is that the criminal law reflects people's moral convictions. I mean normal people in civilised societies - ie all democracies. It is deeply morally wrong to kill a a person intentionally so it is labelled murder - a very serious criminal offence. Equally it is viewed as deeply morally wrong to force someone to have sex so it is labelled rape, another very serious criminal offence. Flirting etc may be annoying but only social sanctions are available against it in all civilised countries. Ie leave the room or ignore the person if you do not like the flirting. The bloke in the situation you described should just have left. He chose instead to commit an extremely serious crime - that was his moral and legal responsibility.


we were having sex, she decided she wanted to stop I didn't.

It's rape: consent in criminal law is to all sex actions, including continuing to have sex where there is no longer consent. So you've committed a very serious criminal offence.

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The main male character was in lust of the female, who had no interest in him, yet knew about his sexual desires towards her, yet flaunted her promiscuity around him. It was wrong for him to rape her, but wasn't it also wrong of her to walk around nude while he was around, have sex with his companions "

Um no, the only thing wrong is if he isnt comfortable with her doing that then he should leave the situation. How is it HER fault that hes got a thing for her he for some reason "cant control" ?
People seriously need to stop telling men that theyre retarded animals who cant control themselves, its insulting. And because of what someones wearing of all things, give me a break. If someone wants to walk down the street naked they still dont deserve to be assaulted. By your screwed up logic i should go rape the next streaker i see



"- while he was in the room - discuss matters of a sexual nature with him, yet decisively deny him the opportunity to have consenting sex? "

That last sentence of your paragraph is disturbing, see if you can try to figure out why in that tiny head of yours

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I'm not sure that the watch analogy works. Someone might attack you to take a watch. The watch is the thing they want. What can a woman leave home? The attacker isn't trying to -steal- skimpy clothes.

I agree that being cautious means that a woman is more likely to stay safe. And I personally am. But it's not a comfortable feeling to think that I'm not safe, and that all men are a potential threat. All men aren't actually a threat, but quite frankly to be safe I really have to treat all of them that way. That's the mindset that goes with trying to protect myself. The whole world becomes a frightening place, and a restricted one. Men seem to have a lot more freedom.

I'm also bothered by the comments that men are animals. It sounds too much like an excuse for not having self-control. And that goes back to the idea that rape is often a man wanting to have sex with a woman and he can't control himself. Anyone of sound mind can control themselves.

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Too many posts written by male posters here prooves that some men take delight in "showing little bitch whores their place" which in your mind is on your prick.

Rape is a violent sex crime. Women and girls live in fear of it every day, it is something that minimizes our living space and the precautions control our everyday life.

Women and children get raped every day, every minute, in war as well as in peace. Women and children are being raped by their husbands, their fathers, uncles and grandfathers. By friends of the family, by friends of their friends and by men they thought where their own friends, and sometimes, but not as often as of the above mentioned, by complete strangers. And women and children suffer the consequences every day and every minute. Not only the honor-dishonor thing but physical consequences. Women and children die of the internal damages caused by violent rape or gang rapes or by objects such as knifes; weapons; broken bottles; sharpened wooden poles etcetera that their rapists too often enjoys shoving up between their victims legs. They die from nasty infections in their torn vagina and/or anus, by the aftermath of illegal abortions if they cant afford a real one or if its illegal where they live. Women and children get stoned, knifed or shot to death because their families or legal system believe that they have dishonoured them by being raped. Women and children commit suicide because they cant live with the shame and the pain of this justice-less crime.

To blame the victim for this crime because of her clothes and/or behaviour is the same as saying that all men are potential rapists. Are you? Should we fear ALL men? What do men have to say about being belittled into a "walking sex-organ" that cannot think or feel or do anything on a normal human level if they see some flesh?

Lets face it; rape isnt a sexy crime, I mean what is so hot about a scared-to-death crying, screaming woman or child who is bleeding and begging for her life? Whats so sexy about having to hold down, threaten and beat someone into submission? Only sick people gets off on that. Rapists know that what they do is wrong or they wouldnt so often threaten their victims after the deed is done of all the evil things they will do to them if they tell anyone about what happened.

Lets turn this around for the hell of it; men wearing fancy watches and driving luxurious cars deserve to be robbed and beaten and sometimes murdered? Men wearing tight pants deserve to be gang raped? Do they also "flaunt their stuff" and therefore deserve to be brutalized?

There are far too many men out there who hate women and enjoy blaming them for everything so that they dont have to take any responsibility for their own actions or crimes. It is something that can be seen throughout human history and just like rasism, sexism flourishes wherever there's ignorance and fear.

Rapists fear women, they fear rejection from them and they feel threatened by them and they want to put them "in their place". Its a psychological thing. What scares me is that most serial killers start out as serial rapists. It is about hate, violence and power, about getting turned on by it, and about feeling like God when you have your victims destiny and life in your hands to play with.

Women and children are the most likely "prey" since they are more likely to be defenceless and not to be taken seriously by society. This is an "easy" crime, because the shame and guilt felt by the victims makes it unlikely for the perpetrator to get caught. This is also why prostitutes are so often raped, no one believes they can be raped and therefore they are a perfect target. This is a crime that has nothing to do with the victim and all to do with the criminal. A rapist is just waiting for a chance to make real his fantasies, the actual victim is of less importance. A normal person would never rape anyone, no matter the situation.

Just like serial killers and mass murderers, rapists twisted behaviour are just symptoms and evidence of what they have been put through growing up. They have more or less been brutalized by their caretakers and sometimes alienized from society, that is why they play out their childhood-drama over and over again but this time they are the one who holds the power. They cant feel compassion or mercy because no one has ever shown that to them.

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Seriously who parties in their church clothes? Have any of you been to a nightclub? Every single girl there wears tight pants or short skirts with a tiny top because that's what you party in! How is that asking for anything? You're expecting to have a good time not pinned down to a pinball machine and get raped by three guys with a whole room full of them cheering it on. I mean come on people.

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Seriously who parties in their church clothes? Have any of you been to a nightclub? Every single girl there wears tight pants or short skirts with a tiny top because that's what you party in! How is that asking for anything? You're expecting to have a good time not pinned down to a pinball machine and get raped by three guys with a whole room full of them cheering it on. I mean come on people.


Exactly! I don't wear stuff like that myself when I go out (as I'm not confident with my body) but I know loads of girls and women who do. I've even seen girls in clubs wearing binknis in the past.

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