I don't watch pt 5 and don't count it. Nor Jason X or FvJ for this purpose.
So then you have 8 films. Parts 1-4. Then parts 6,7,8,9. Parts 1-4 are good old school slashers.
Part 6 is the beginning of the reason you could def consider this series a crock. 6 7 8 9 were so bad!
I disagree. JASON LIVES was certainly when the box office started to drop, but 6 and 7 are two of my personal favorites.
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I still think the first four have the best tone. As far as overall movies, though, I think some of the later ones are the best.
Top 5:
1. Jason Lives
2. Jason Goes to Hell
3. The remake
4. The New Blood
5. A New Beginning
I'm going to have to disagree with the majority. I actually find this one to be the most boring of all the sequels and find Part 5 to be far more enjoyable and entertaining. This film didn't seem as fun to watch as the previous others in my opinion.
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Absolutely true. This was one of the worst. But next part is even worse. Stupid supposedly funny tongue in cheek humor wasn't even good in this part.
share6 is the second bast of the series in my opinion. 4 is the best.
sharetmock-1 sounds like a total arrogant dueche bag. Let's be quite honest about this series shall we? It's a cash grab series that wasn't scary just unapologetic and exploitative in its nature. The original was made to basically rip off Halloween. Victor Miller even admitted this but they took what Halloween didn't do like show a lot of gore and placed it in a summer camp instead of suburbia and added more victims and a mortal female killer. Also the movie didn't really have as much character development by comparison but it was much more developed than in some of the sequels.
Part 2 was a remake of part 1 with a different killer, more violence, more on-screen deaths and looked more polished. Part 3 was the "gimmick" film shot in 3D that didn't add much other than having better/gorier kills because the MPAA neutered part 2. As as much as I love part 3 it was more than obvious that it wasn't filmed in the north east like the first two. Part 4 was supposed to "kill" Jason but it made a ton of money so he was brought "back". Part 5 was someone new and was full of unintentional humor. You can't fault them for trying to continue the series without Jason or attempting something different.
When part 6 came along the series was bled dry nothing else could be done that wasn't already. The series started getting stale at part 3 so the intentional humor and being able to laugh at itself said "hey, we know, it's ridiculous to even be at part 6 but here we are". Part 7 went back to a serious tone with a new angle since everything else was done and Jason was a zombie so it's not like telekinesis wouldn't fit in at that point either. Part 8 had Jason taking a vacation and in part 9 he went to Hell, part 10 he went to space (because our boy loves to travel) and part 11 had Jason squaring off against Freddy Kreuger.
7-11 might not have been the best in the series but they were entertaining and served their purpose so let's be clear, what slasher movie is actually "scary"? We see these films to see people mangled. Nothing more, nothing less. Liking the first 4 or 1-2 or 1-3 only doesn't make anyone a "better" or "true" horror fan than anyone who prefers the later sequels. None of these movies had or will ever have mainstream respect outside of Friday the 13th fans or slasher fans. Now, if tmock-1 was talking about Psycho or The Exorcist or Halloween I could see the point he was trying to make but just because you prefer more highbrow films doesn't make you a better horror fan either. It makes you look elitist. This is a mindless slasher series with a beginning, a middle, a chase scene and an end. Take your pick.
Part 6 has the most respect from critics and is probably the one I like the most. Even people who don't like these movies can watch this entry and not feel insulted because of the obvious humor and not how ridiculous and stupid the characters typically are and we actually like these characters. Some fans need to get over the fact that there's humor in this one. Jason was still menacing and serious so what's the problem? The tone and atmosphere was great and the acting was a slit throat above the rest in the series.
You make a lot of points here, but the one that jumps out at me is concerning part 7. I totally agree.
Some hate it, but I've always felt that the telekinesis thing was a perfect move. Part VI brought the series into the realm of the supernatural by resurrecting Jason and turning him into an invincible zombie. Tommy even grabs a book on the occult to cook up a way to stop Jason. At that point all bets were off. Why not keep going? It's part of why The New Blood is one of the last films in the franchise I care for. It's not up to par with the best of the sequels, but it's still very enjoyable.
Jason Lives was the beginning of the end in that it started a new era for the series (i.e. the Zombie Jason era), but it's actually quite enjoyable on its own. And funny. Part V was unintentionally funny because it was so bizarre, but Part VI was funny because Tom Mcloughlin had a sense of humor and a willingness to play with genre cliches. It also returned to the camp setting of the original films and even brought actual campers in, for the first and only time in the series. I always liked that. Plus it was nice to have a film in which Tommy returned and actually had something to do. He spoke all of 24 words in part V, and wasn't even around for most of the final act. And if I had to choose between Zombie Jason and the "twist" ending from part V that meant to introduce Tommy as the new antagonist, I'll choose this route each time.
This sequel doesn't contend with parts II and IV, but it's one of the more entertaining and well-crafted films in the franchise. It's especially good when viewed in contrast with the later sequels, but even just watching the series in chronological order it holds its own.
As for whether or not this or any other film in the franchise is "scary", it's all up to the viewer. No one person can say for sure why anyone else watches these films. Some watch it for the kills, some actually watch it for the movie. Part II is my favorite of the series because Steve Miner and Ron Kurz just crafted an all-around better film. It flows better, has a superior cast, kills, and an excellent final act. The original film isn't what I would consider scary, but this one had some great scares and some chilling moments (Jason in the bed, "Paul...THERES SOMEONE IN THIS *beep* ROOM", the bathroom scene, the shack when you can see Jason outside before Ginny does). It's not quite as effective now seeing as it's been emulated for decades, but I still consider it to be one of the high points of the slasher genre. And Ginny is probably my favorite final girl. Plus I liked Paul. With the exception of Tommy in part VI, good male characters are rare in this series. The best we get is the lovable goofball who gets brutally murdered partway through (e.g. Crispin Glover).
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I actually really like Part 6 and 7. They're probably not as scary as Parts 1, 2, and 4 (Part 3 wasn't quite as good), but they're still fun and entertaining (as opposed to Jason X and Jason Goes to Hell, which were god-awful).
Let the storm rage on, the cold never bothered me anyway...
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you are on rock cocaine, part 6 is THE BEST f13th film period.
share1-4 were really good, I don't remember disliking Part 5, but was disappointed by the lack of Jason. Part 6 is totally awesome, 7 is very good except for the WTF ending, Parts 8 and 9 were very very bad.
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Damn, why hasn't someone told Krakow to shut his dumb ass by now? You ask me for a reason why I like A New Beginning, I give it to you and you still piss all over it!! Why don't you just admit that you're a damn troll? All you do is cite reasons for hating basically every film in the series, so why the hell are you here anyway? Oh, that's right...
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