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How come the plot of a mother being in love with her son not considered controversial?


And the film has always been considered a “family” film?

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its played for silly harmless laughs at first.

then its played to move the story forward and his dads arc.

then its played and called out when she says "it feels wrong. its like kissing your brother"

I think because at no times is it handled as good, normal, okay or in any way positive it gets a pass.

it is kinda a genius concept in story terms. him replacing his dad in that tree and his very existence being threatened, and having to convince his dad and set a plan in motion to make sure they still fall in love

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That said, I think I read that at least one studio refused to do the movie because of the almost-incest thing.

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quite simple really she didn't KNOW it was her son, completely different to knowing if you are in love with your son

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take it your a boomer it was time travel Marty intervened at the wrong time and also saw your previous postings & Comments yikes, Same-sex couples in films are not controversial Love is Love yes it was hands off when Lorraine realized it was wrong same with Luke & Leia In Return Of The Jedi

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You're overthinking it.

We live in a ridiculously pretentious time where some type of fake sexual morality is pushed without any consideration for real ethics. No one is hurt by a mother in a different time unknowingly falling for her son.

If you want a movie which could never be made today because of faux morality it would be "Summer of 42". It would be banned now because an adult woman "molests" a teenage boy. Again, no one was hurt. But it make fools feel good to espouse this fake sexual morality.

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I'm surprised this one never got any heat. Not that it should have mind you.

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There is also a double standard which I believe is fine. An man with a teenage girl - no way! A woman with a teenage boy - I'm not so sure that's a bad thing for the boy.

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There are so many double standards, but we're not supposed to talk about them, because gender is just a social construction, but at the same time, women need men like fish need bicycles, but then again, there are 8 billion genders at the same time.

In any case, the 'double standard' is not that 'it would be fun for the boy' - how can you guarantee this?

It's that people have different attitudes towards male and female people, from the GET-GO.

They did an experiment, dressing the same baby girl in pink and blue, and when she was wearing pink, people treated the baby with very soft, silent voice and gentle gestures and 'loving' language. When dressed in blue, the language was harsher, the volume was higher, the physical action was rougher and more action-based and the attitude was downright 'tough'.

And this was a few months old baby that probably had no clue what was going on, and people already treated her differently based on clothes alone (which lead to their assumptions). Gender doesn't exist but people treat men and women COMPLETELY differently as a matter-of-fact.

A boy should feel 'lucky' if a teacher molests him, no matter how traumatic the experience might have been (and emasculating, too)..

..but a girl is supposed to be a victim and feel traumatized, no matter how fun the experience might have been for her, and how much she might have been the instigator and manipulator and how much she actually seduced the adult teacher.

The human experience is BIASED, and male-bodied entities are dealt the shorter stick, the worse cards, they just CAN'T WIN.

The law should be the same for all, people should treat everyone as human beings first, and not as gender first, and the double standard that 'hehe, he was lucky' and 'omigosh, she's a victim' just makes the inequality worse.

Women get shorter sentences for the same crimes, female prisons are holiday resorts by comparison to the hell men end up in, men get rrrrped in prisons way more than women anywhere

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.. the double standards never end, the list would go on for pages and pages and yet more pages.

In any case, it's weird how people REFUSE to see or admit these double standards that benefit women and are detriment to men, but yet people are SO QUICK to claim there are no genders or there are millions of genders.

I mean, if genders are just a social construction, how can women get lower pay? I mean, women don't exist, so how can they get lower pay? Also, it's illegal to pay less for the same job based on ANY physical qualities, so women could sue all the big corporations and become millionaires. But they don't do this, because? Of course because they calculate this 'lower pay' wrong.

When EVERYTHING is taken into account, women earn 100% the same as men, IF we don't calculate women's 'second salary' and 'third salary'... the money men freely give them, money their boyfriends and husbands bring them, women expect men to always pay for everything when dating, they get free drinks and don't have to pay for entry to a club or whatnot, and so on and so forth.

Women have an endless amount of 'salaries', men don't.

But somehow genders don't exist and ... it's a crazy world.

In any case, I can understand how it CAN be a 'lucky thing' for a male teenager to have coitus with his teacher, because teenage males have very powerful hormones when it comes to sexual lust, and many of them dream of this kind of stuff. However, this shouldn't be the ONLY perspective used with these things, people are individuals, after all, and it's entirely possible for a male to suffer and for a female to enjoy such a situation, just as much as it's vice versa.

That's the double standard, people think it's ALWAYS fun for the boy, and ALWAYS misery for the girl, when they should first investigate what it was for the individual people, but people immediately judge based on this misandristic prejudice.

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This is ALSO sexist against women, because if women are always the protected, pedestalized victims, they can never have true independency or agency.

Men should always protect women and there's never an excuse to hit women, but somehow women have no obligations to protect men from other women even just socially (which is why this extremely rare sight is _SO_ funny when it happened once in Curb Your Enthusiasm, when Ms. Black defended Larry when she was his girlfriend and Susan attacked Larry verbally, a VERY satisfying moment showing how things COULD be..)

Women can always hit men, because there are plenty of excuses. But there are no genders and there are million genders and..

It's the HYPOCRISY of all this that sickens me the most. The double standards are endless, and men always get the short stick. Women have so much social power and 10 different 'salaries', while men toil like worker ants without access to colorful clothes or dresslike clothes that men HAVe worn throughout history (old chinese culture, old japanese culture, old Roman culture, etc.. only the Kilt remains as acceptable dress for men these days, besides some africans and Arabs, maybe)

Why can't we all have the same rights and obligations IN PRACTICAL REALITY? Women have opportunities men can't even dream of. A man can't unzip his pants and rub his chest and make 2 million a year from doing that in front of a camera to 20 000 'hungry simpettes', but even an ugly woman can just sit and spread to get something to spread on their bread.

In theory, we have equality, but in practical reality, women live in the Cloud City, and men have to crawl in overly tight tunnels below the dirty and dangerous ground. Then the women complain and complain that men don't do enough and yet these double standard live on.. a female shouldn't be put to a prison for molesting a student, because 'the boy probably liked it, heh heh' is the most sickening thing I have ever heard.

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Okay, there are a lot of issues in your posts.

First, you are saying that gender differences between males and females are social constructs, created by, as an example, baby boys in blue and baby girls in pink. Sure, there is a cultural impact based on sex.

But, it all starts with hormones. Female embryos and male embryos go through different biological processes in the womb whereby their sex is determined. Of course this affects more than genitalia. At birth male brains and female brains are different. And hormones and development through childhood keep this biological difference ongoing. And then there's the explosion at puberty.

So 90% of violent criminals are males. Something like 99% of rapists are male. Are you saying this is all a social construct?

I'm not saying it's okay for adult women to have sex with teenage boys. And I'm not saying it's "fun for the boys" so why not? An adult woman with all her experience would obviously be a master manipulator of the boy.

However, there is an amount of control which any male has over sex which any female doesn't have. The female can't force the boy's penis inside her. In contrast, an adult male can forcibly penetrate a girl.

Sorry, there is just a difference which stems from biology. I'm more concerned about a girl being a victim than a boy. And it's important to point out that a teenage boy can and teenage boys have raped adult women. I doubt any 15-year-old girls have ever raped 30-year-old men.

There's just fundamental biological differences which you willfully ignore.

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Excellent point and perhaps this movie should get cancelled

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Because it isn't controversial. Not really.

It's a comedy misunderstanding, where a girl falls for somebody that she doesn't know will go one to become her son. It's not like it was super graphic, or they had some big sex scene. The only thing that really happened was that they kissed, and even then Lorraine commented that it felt weird. (Whilst Marty looks mortified.)

Also, you've got to remember, things got into family films in the 1980s maybe wouldn't fly nowadays. Kids loved Indiana Jones in the 80s, and Raiders Of The Lost Ark had people's faces melting off. Having a girl having a slight crush on somebody she didn't know was her son was nothing.

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If...after she 😘 Marty in the car and THEN CONTINUED to jump his bones..it probably would have.

But she had a "weird" reaction to the kiss..and the audience was satisfied as it being the "correct" reaction, controversy averted.

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Lorraine didn’t know it was her son and nothing came of that love. Marty knew he was back in time and that was his mom.

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