I am watching the version that has parts that were not in the DVD I have and this music in these scenes is very bad I feel like I should be watching a surfing movie. Has anyone else seen this version?
shareI likes the extended version, but I agree that the music didn't match the scenes.
shareNo way, just watched the shorter one thinking my mind was playing tricks on me and i'd imagined a load of scenes up - was way pissed off when I realised.
shareSometimes there are good reasons for scenes ending up on the cutting room floor.
shareI apparently haven't seen the "extended" version, but I saw the TV edit. The 91 minute version is the one that sucks. Someone took the whole ending of the movie and just cut it to shreds. It completely changes the focus of the film.
I wish they'd have just released the tv version on DVD instead of re-editing it.
Scenes had nothing to do with it. It was completely 100% the music that is at fault.
shareAgreed, its pretty bad. The music is good but does not fit with the dramatic scenes at all. They ruined Dally's death scene with the music
I don't know why Coppola would remove the amazing score his father composed for the film and replace it with poo. He must be going crazy in his old age
The additional scenes were great but the music ruined it. The movie is now out on Blu-ray and it doesn't include the theatric cut, only the crap edition. Annoys me
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If ever a film needed a fan edit, this is the one! Now they will never restore the film to its original potential cut. I never understood why the music had to be changed to something the characters would be listening to. Can you imagine "Gone With the Wind" without its orchestral score? A film score is meant to reinforce the emotional content of the story, not be a playlist of tunes contemporary with the action.
shareRight? It was more than bad enough that they cut scenes and characters that should never been cut, and then we had parts of the story missing for a long time. But then they put them back and they decide to “fix” the music by screwing it up. It’s like they can’t do anything right.
shareI LOVE both versions, but I think the new version is a little better. I'm a huge fan of the rockabilly from the 50's and 60's, so that might be why.
shareI'm sorry but the new music just doesn't work. We can argue forever about the original intent but whatever these new tracks are simply aren't composed very well. They don't feel "gritty" like a Scorsesse film. They feel like bad surfer music.
The original version of the film used the "retro" song "Gloria" very effectively and I'm glad he at least kept that in this new version. Had the new music been the same level of quality as "Gloria" and had the same old-school edge to it, then this retro concept might have worked. Unfortunately, what we get is generic surfer music. Honestly, it feels like the music is making fun of the movie. That's a lot more distancing than the "operatic" score was.
Especially in scenes like the burning church, the rumble, or Dallas getting killed; the music really seems like it's mocking the action.
The so-called “new music” drowns out any dialogue in the scenes they are put in, and you can’t hear anything the characters are saying.
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Bad? Terrible? Is something wrong? I don't mean to offend, but this movie is the best of the best. Everything about it is perfect! And in case you're wondering, yes...I am a fan girl and I am obsessed with this movie! It is perfect!!! How can you say that? Excuse me while I go flip a table...
shareI totally agree with you doll.These squares don't know great music when they hear it. The cat who called the music "generic surf" music is totally clueless.The instrumental music they were going for was a very rebellious Link Wray style,loud twangy distorted rock and roll just what the greasers would have preferred.The people hating on the new music must have been rooting for the Soc's.
Sadly they didn't give credit to the band making the new music on this soundtrack.Does anyone have any idea who it is? I'm a ultra huge fan of this style of music,and I've heard hundreds of surf/rockabilly bands around the globe. Somebody help?
You have to get into the heads of the greasers. It wasn't until I met my husband (who was abused as a child) that I met someone who would meet all of life's challenges (be it angry, sad, frustrated, etc) with fast heavy metal music. Relative dies? Out comes the Metallica. Fight with someone at work? Out comes the Anthrax. And so on. The only way the greasers know to deal with most things is with violence of one form or another. That rockabilly "surf" (even though it's not surf) music is to emphasize the rage they feel at any given moment - even in sad times. They completely react the wrong way when Johnny dies by starting a huge fight which ultimately leads to Dally's death - the music is perfect. Live fast and hard, die fast and hard.
shareI don't know what yall are talking about. I just watched it after not seeing it for years and I didn't notice much different. Yes, the music seems more like what they kids would have been listening to and for that reason it fits the movie just fine.
But I could swear there was a scene sometime in the movie where PonyBoy was back in class. Am I crazy or what?
I'm pretty sure teh extended verson starts with Ponyboy writing his essay, in his room, which leads to him coming out of teh theeater and getting caught by the Soc's. And that lead up to the ending where his teacher tells him that he can pass by writing about something personal.
I think the original starts with them walking thru town on the way to the drive-in.
I'm in agreement with most of you guys, the surfer music sure does suck! It just doesn't fit the time and place of the movie.
shareI didn't get that impression at all. The music in the extended version serves a more Mise-en-scène approach to the film narrative as opposed to the soundtrack and atmosphere generated by the theatrical release, which feels like Coppola's pandering rather than showing us the character's POV.
I also take it you don't really know much about the period music featured in the extended version. The theatrical soundtrack and original filmscore sound like a failed recreation to the "Rebel Without a Cause" soundtrack to me.
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The theatrical soundtrack of Carmine Coppola is really a beautiful work and I enjoy watching that version of the movie. That music will forever be identified with The Outsiders.
However I don't think the extended version is as awful as people are making it out to be. Considering the time period this film is set in - the mid to late 60s - the music in the extended version does fit the story quite well.
The blending of Elvis and early rockabilly with the rock music of the mid to late 60s works well, imo.
Well, it's a matter of personal taste. I like Carmine's score for the Godfather movies too, but for the Outsiders I felt like the soundtrack was trying to capture the tone of "Rebel Without a Cause".
I had a similar reaction to Coppola's "The Cotton Club" film score. John Barry's overly saturated period music felt intrusive and I wish it was relegated to the performance/montage sequences instead of throughout the film.
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