This movie is prejudice, or at least that's what they would say if the movie was released today. Back in 1983 there was stuff you could show in movies that you can't show today. This movie portrays black people as small time crooks and con artists that live in the ghetto and redneck families as being unsanitary, dirty, and incestuous.
shareGo back to your safespace you snowflake pussy
shareWhat's funny is that the recent Harold and Kumar films have done just that.
The second movie contained a scene where the cops went to the ghetto and used grape soda to question people. And there was also a scene where Harold and Kumar stayed with inbred rednecks who had a deformed child lol
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"This movie is prejudice, or at least that's what they would say if the movie was released today."
Okay and since this movie WASN'T released today, then the point of your post is.........
So, the soda scene could be seen as pre-juice?
shareOP: I know, isn't it great!?
shareA movie can't be 'prejudice', as that's basically an abstraction of people's feelings and perhaps motivations and attitudes.
You could've said 'prejudiced', but that'd still be wrong, considering a movie isn't a living entity, and thus can't have prejudice. The MAKERS of the movie could have prejudice, but then again, who doesn't? You have prejudice. We all have prejudice about something, it's a very difficult thing to get rid of completely.
I don't care if it's only about some fire ants after you have heard they destroyed a family, but it's still prejudice, if you haven't actually met some fire ants in real life. So what, even higher-level beings that live outside this stupid mudball might not be always fully free of prejudice.
Prejudice is a normal human quality, it takes aeons to cultivate yourself out of it, and because it happens on so many levels, in so many forms, and about so many things, you shouldn't judge people based on it, because even 'good human beings' are not fully free of it necessarily.
What I am saying, is .. so what, there's nothing wrong with prejudice, it's actually logical and lifesaving feature in unknown situations and such. It's like fear - it seems like a 'bad quality', but when you think about it, it's fear that saves our lives in many scenarios. You see a car approaching you at high speed without any evidence of slowing down - FEAR will save you and make you run to the side (unless you were in Prometheys school of running away from things) and survive. Without fear, you could just let the car kill you and then wonder what happened.
In any case, you are aiming at the movie, when you should be focusing on what has changed. The movie is still the same it always was. For some reason, no one in the eighties would ever have written "This movie is prejudice" about this movie. No one cared, people saw this as a fun comedy, and wouldn't even have thought to say anything like that about it.
So what changed? The movie certainly didn't.
If the movie wasn't 'prejudice' back in the day, and suddenly is 'prejudice', something must have changed. Since we know the movie couldn't have changed, the only conclusion is that the world surrounding it changed.
So in essence, what you SHOULD be lamenting, is that the WORLD changed from a 'humor-understanding fun place to live' to a 'miserable place where no humor is allowed'.
'Prejudice' or 'Non-prejudice' doesn't enter into it. In my opinion, anything and everything can be a topic for humor, without it necessarily being 'prejudice-based'. I mean, if I make a joke about black people, it could be that I just find that particular joke funny, and black people just happen to fit the joke very well, and that's ALL there is to it.
But these days, people ASSIGN motivations where none exist, racism where none exists, and so on. So you can't make a joke about black people without people thinking you are racist. This is what has changed, and it's very sad. I would be happy if people make fun of me on every possible level (as long as there's no actual physical violence), if this would mean that EVERYONE can be happily made fun of just as well.
Try making fun of women, black people, or being racial or 'genderized' about insults against black people or women. This world will eat you alive.
However, make fun of men (especially hetereosexual 'white' men) or white people, being racial against white people or women, no one will bat an eye.
This is inequal, and in a world that talks so much about equality, one would expect people to address ALL inequalities, not just the manufactured, non-existent ones. Women are always given a victim status, WHM can never have that. Black people have an automatic protection and affirmative action (which ACTUALLY is pretty racist, when you think about it, because this assumes black people are not strong enough to take insults, especially racial ones, they're weak little children so they can't compete on adult level against others..
..so they need 'affirmative action' and so on. Candace Owens is RIGHT about these racial things, it's ridiculous how black people are actually kept 'in check' by the idea that they can't achieve anything because racism and patriarchy, so they need affirmative action and all kinds of things just to be equal to white people, and so on. This sickens me, we are all equal regardless of our physical bodies!)
White people don't have anything lifting them up or keeping them up. Women can earn millions of money just by wearing specific, skimpy outfits and laying in front of camera, maybe wiggling something a little bit every now and then. Men can't have anything this easy to earn even ten bucks.
In any case... 'prejudice'... it's an interesting word, but there's NOTHING wrong with this movie. I don't see anything ACTUALLY insulting or racistic or prejudice-based about anything in this movie. You should be able to make fun about someone or something without being accused of racism or prejudice. I can make fat woman jokes without hating the people that actually live inside those fat, female bodies. I mean, I wouldn't F them, but I don't hate them.
After all, they're the same souls we all are - we are all incarnated into all kinds of bodies eventually, or already have. It's not like our body defines us, IS IT?!
So why not make fun of your body or ANY quality of it, even race, if it's funny, since it's just temporary, while YOU are eternal? Why not? It's like making fun of your car. Why take it personally, since your car isn't you? The same way, your body isn't you, no matter how 'black' or 'asian' or 'white' or whatever.
Yes, its very disturbing watching this today
share “Very disturbing”
Oh please, you cannot be that disturbed or bothered by this movie lol..
GMAFB. I hope you're kidding and being sarcastic.
shareDisturbing?? What the actual fuck?? LOL!!!! Are you serious??
shareWAAH WAAH WAAH WAAH- get off it already and just enjoy the movie.
shareSome parts of the movie didn’t age well. The part in the ghetto and with the rednecks are one of them.
Another is when Wally arrived at the end and asked if the people hijacking the park were Arabs. I cringed with that one.
I’ve never seen a film that didn’t age well. I always place myself in the year they were made and enjoy them that way.
Why in the world would anyone want to judge a comedy film from the 80s by today’s ridiculous standards?? People in the 80s didn’t “cringe” 10 times a day.
Agree
But this is how people are for all different subjects they want to attack the past using today's standards.
I really enjoy thes eold movies and still find them funny if people have issues with them don't watch it simple.
The parts about the ghetto blacks, the rednecks, and the Arabs have aged the best. They remind us of a happier time when humor was fun and everybody didn't have a stick up their ass. Woke attitudes about comedy make me cringe.
shareSame. Edgy jokes are often the funniest. The only good thing about woke is that it sets up lots of absurd taboos for funny people to tear down.
I’d like to see Hollywood embrace this now and go full steam ahead with anti-woke comedy.
The 2015 Vacation film was actually a good example with some great gags around ‘gender fluid’ 🤣 Very underrated film.
I love how the derpy foreign nationals all over this thread didn't get that precisely because there were issues with the first movie back then, National Lampoon made up for it by stereotyping people like the Griswolds as Ugly Americans in European Vacation.
shareNational Lampoon's European Vacation was never that big in Europe. It very rarely airs on TV and has barely ever had a European DVD release. It can be bought as part of a box set on Blu-ray. Both National Lampoon's Vacation and Christmas Vacation were very popular on the continent. The latter always airs on TV around Christmastime. Although for some odd reason, they have lately decided to swap it with this movie during the time of the season for the past years.
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