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Why did Pacino even wanna do this


“Cruising” is a gutsy film about a serial killer targeting homosexuals yet the distinction should be made it’s not exactly a gutsy look at the homosexual lifestyle. Garnering controversy when it was first released, the William Friedkin thriller wanted to open people’s eyes to a whole new subculture and present hate crime victims not normally focused on by Hollywood but the film is oddly lacking in strong characterization.

It focuses on a string of violent New York murders. Body parts have washed up on Long Island sound and even more men have been found brutally stabbed. It’s been discovered that these men frequented gay men’s clubs and Friedkin shows us one such chilling encounter early on with the killer, clad in leather and sunglasses, where both men head back to an apartment and the victim is playfully tied up before things get far less playful.

The hero of the film is Al Pacino’s Steve Burns, a patrolman assigned by his Captain (Paul Sorvino) to go undercover to try and suss out the killer. Right away the film seems somewhat vague on Burns. What makes him the best man for this job? Apparently he best matches the physical description of the other victims, but otherwise, he comes across as such a zonked out space cadet you wonder if the department even vetted him.

That this guy is expected to pass as flamboyantly gay is also a tough sell. He winds up trying to learn the culture- what the different colored bandannas in someone’s back pocket mean, what goes on under bridges in Central Park, and the whole night club scene, which is heavily into shirtless (and for some, pantless) dancing, drinking, and S&M themes like Precinct Night, where suspects are anally violated by others dressed as cops.


The film courted a lot of controversy when it came out because of such depictions, with it being argued that all of this is really just a small part of the gay community. There is another character in a film, a would-be playwright who seems more sympathetic as he befriends Steve, but he becomes only a small part of the film and becomes buried under a nightlife that seems way more preoccupied with sexual kinkiness than actual people.


That stands doubly true for the Pacino character, who remains an enigma. When he’s out in the bars he seems so sexually disinterested. We later see him in bed with a girlfriend (Karen Allen), where he again says very little, but I guess it’s supposed to show us he’s a straight arrow. Or is it? He’s so mysterious that nothing about him ever makes sense. When he later says the case is affecting him, it’s such a vague statement that even then we have no clue what’s happening. Are the murders taking it out of him? Or is it pretending to be gay?

Friedkin’s best work comes in the atmosphere- capturing a New York nightlife which is high on depravity but also knows those lonely city streets, secluded parks, and hidden-away alleys are dangerous. The visuals almost make up for the lameness of the actual murder investigation, which for the most part has Pacino going after suspects we already know are not the guy.

Odder still is one police interrogation scene where the cops not only have the wrong guy, but Friedkin comes up with a scene so hard to explain, so bizarre, and campy that it pushes the film into unintentionally funny territory. What’s with the black guy in only his drawers and a cowboy hat bitchslapping the suspect? Why are the cops making the suspect pull his pants down? Have we entered the Twilight Zone?

What Friedkin seems too obsessed with doing here is presenting gay culture as something “else”, something exotic, mysterious, and dangerous. Everytime two guys get to talking in a club, we’re supposed to make the connection that one of them may be a sexual psychopath ready to take things too far.

But what seems to hurt the story more than anything is Burns and for that matter Pacino. Rather than engage, he seems to be floating above everything trying not to be touched by it. We get few thoughts from him, even fewer insights into this brand new world he’s walking into. He conveys little and he seems to want even less out of it. It’s a performance makes you wonder why he even took the role to begin with? Much like the ending, Pacino here just presents one, large ambiguous question that’s never answered.

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I’m guessing Pacino wanted to stretch himself (no pun) and work with exciting and controversial director Friedkin. He or his agent thought it would be a good career move to try something ‘edgy’.

He’s just not a great fit for this kind of super-gay material.

I will say, though, that the film still haunts me. Friedkin always gets under your skin and, whether it’s the creepy ambiguous twist ending (that doesn’t make sense) or his usual docu-realist style… the film has a curious power.

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Jeff Bridges was up for the role but dropped out. Another candidate was Timothy Bottoms.

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For real or is that just a pun-name?

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See for yourself: https://catalog.afi.com/Catalog/moviedetails/68137

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Tim Butt

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It was Richard Gere - on board and already signed up.

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"I will say, though, that the film still haunts me. Friedkin always gets under your skin and, whether it’s the creepy ambiguous twist ending (that doesn’t make sense) or his usual docu-realist style… the film has a curious power."
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It really has, hasn't it?
I have the same relationship to this film you have. There is something very haunting about it in spite of its many flaws.
And I, contrary to most people including the director (there's a video on YouTube of Friedkin being Friedkin and expressing with no ambiguity how much he thinks Pacino is overrated as an actor...), think Pacino is one of the main reasons why, probably PRECISELY because he's absolutely wrong for the part and projects a very different vibe from all his other roles before of since.
I do not hesitate to call this film great.

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Richard Gere was Friedkin’s first choice and had already signed. But Friedkin reconsidered because Pacino wanted it so badly and was also a bigger star. This is where Friedkin screws up his movie with poor casting. After they were already into making the picture, Pacino had a really tough time with it. It turns out he is miscast. His permed hair and the kerchief coming out of his back pocket was longer than his thigh. He just couldn’t get the gay hustler thing. He just looked so out of place. Friedkin had made a similar mistake with not casting Steve McQueen in Sorcerer. He shot so many scenes in actual S/M bars and a lot of this original footage is lost today. I think James Franco tried to reconstruct it. It wasn't the segment of the gay culture gays felt comfortable with. Friedkin focused on rough trade and partly inspired by murders in NY city area. Deaths from AIDS started to occur.

Anyway, Pacino ruined this movie. It was poorly received and there a lot of protesters which compromised the movie as well. It’s a much better picture than it was given credit. It has its problems but it is much more revered today and gets a better grade.

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American Gigolo was a timely consolation prize for Gere, especially since it was released in the same month as Cruising.

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Didn’t realize the release date was the same year and actually same month. Travolta turned down American Gigolo. That’s why Gere got it. I know Friedkin regretted the casting of Pacino. People comment that the plot is muddled but it is Pacino who is the most damaging. He doesn’t even know how to walk or talk. Too bad Gere couldn’t have done both. Jeff Bridges was Paul Morrissey’s suggestion with Jan Michael Vincent as Stuart. De Palma also wanted to do Cruising. It had been around for 10 years. But it was Friedkin who wanted to make it s/m.

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Imagine if De Palma had directed it with Travolta as the star, predating their team-up for Blow Out.

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It would look like The Eyes of Laura Mars. With De Palma directing.

Actually, Gere did 4 movies Travolta rejected - AG, Chicago, Days of Heaven, An Officer & a Gentlemen.

You know Tommy Lee Jones would have been a good choice for Cruising. The undercover or the killer.

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