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A horrible addition to the Robin Hood myth


I really looked forward to seeing this movie, I love Robert Shaw and I love everything he ever did (especially Jaws) but this movie really let me down. It made Robin Hood a sad, pathetic old man looking for one last shot of glory. He did not have to do anything he did, it was all so selfish. Shaw as the Sherrif was good, not exactly inspiring, but Sean Connery's Robin Hood was a big let down. I heard so much about this movie that it was one of the best films of the 70's, I was very curious to see it. I wished I hadn't.

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Well, quintshawfan, whether you like this movie or not is your business. But I have to disagree on what you said about Robin Hood "...looking for one last shot of glory." I think the movie made it abundantly clear that Robin was finally going home and he got into the bloody business with the Sherrif only because he wanted to save Marian from going to jail. So I don't think there is any glory seeking elements in Robin's motives, only his love for Marian, which is the underlying theme of the story.

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Actually, the movie is quite close to the legends/mythology. The film took a few minor liberties, but is fairly close to the how the story ends. (Robin does die by a poisoned arrow. The love story gets its tragic resolve. Many of the Merry Band had left or died in previous years.)

Not many people know this is the true end to the Robin Hood mythology because it is more tragic than the Arthurian cycle (there is no hope of RH coming back).

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I thought Robin Hood died of blood letting by a treacherous prioress.

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Give me some popcorn, a good action flick, and I'm all set.

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If he did die due to bloodletting, the one who did it could not have been treacherous. Bloodletting was an accepted part of ancient and medieval medicine. In some rare cases, even today, it may have some benefits. So the "evil" prioress was just trying to help.

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NO in the version I read she was treacherous...he went to her for bloodletting but lets him bleed to death

It is not our abilities that make us who we are...it is our choices

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Robin and Marian asks the question, what happens to an legend when they grow old?

The film is about love, but I wouldn't be fooled into thinking Robin wanted to rescue Marian - he is mainly looking for adventure. Although he has some feelings for her, his first priority is battling the Sheriff and reliving his glory days.

Robin has become more than a man - he's a legend, but finds himself outside of his own legend that he has created.

Robin and Marian is quite simply one of the best Robin Hoods, only behind John Irvin's Robin Hood in my opinion.

If you watched this movie expecting Eroll Flynn to be dancing around in a anachronistic medieval representation of Merrie England then I can understand why you didn't enjoy it!

By saying that Robin Hood is a let down, you've almost captured the idea of the film: Robin is just a man, it is his legend that has raised your expectations above reality.

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you're certainly entitled to your opinion-- it's a free country-- but you're so wrong. i wish they told us something about the authors here, but they don't. i can certainly understand your opinion if you're a teenager or in your 20s or maybe 30s, but you obviously don't understand legend and romance and how this movie manages to combine the two of them in a matter of fact way. i first saw this movie when i was in my mid-20s, younger than the characters, and liked it then. but now that i'm in my 50s and older than the characters, i appreciate it even moreso. perhaps you might try looking at movies from a perspective other than your own. you might get more out of art that way. "robin and marian" never set out to be "jaws," which is what it seems that you were looking for.

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This is an excellent movie - great scenario, magnificent acting, brilliant music by John Barry... Very much under-appreciated, just because people expect some action "larger-than-life" scenes in a movie about Robin Hood.
Fight between Robin and Sheriff is one of the greatest sword fights in any film I've ever watched... Very realistic.
Deep, sad voice of Little John when he sees his friend is dying in front of him still ringing in my head...
I love it... masterpiece!

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Re MRSPADFOOT

Marion IS the treacherous Prioress (with a bit of poetic liscence).

If only you could see what I have seen through your eyes.

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[Spoiler Below]

I hated that she poisoned Robin -- it was an awful ending. It totally went against the legend of their love. If I were Robin, I would have chopped off her head just before I died.

If the love of my life poisoned me, I'd be ticked.

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when marian poisoned robin I was really surprised.
But the shot when she declared her love for robin "i love you more than nature, more than sun, [...], more than God." (italian translation) and Robin accepted her decision to die toghether was one of the most moving ever seen.
A lot of love tragedy have a similar ending (Romeo and Giuliet, Tristano e Isotta...).

I loved this movie, and Robin was a really credible too-old-man-for-this-kind-of-things, that increases the melancony during the story until fhe final climax of the arrow.

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Couldn`t disagree more.Good performances all-round & a tough,gritty portrayal of a legend totally removed from the 1938 version(still fun) or the T.V series of the fifties.This is a grizzled Robin who shows pain & despair & as a previous post correctly interpreted:is just an ordinary man.That`s just one of the reasons why this is the best Robin Hood interpretation in my opinion.

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I'll put it this way: This is the only version of the Robin Hood myth that affected me emotionally.

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I agree.

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I recall Robin's line in that final scene, as he pauses & realizes, "I'd never have another day like this one, would I?" And he knows that to try dragging out his life for increasingly futile attempts at adventure & rebellion would be a long, slow, diminishing death for him. But he does have these last moments with Marian, where their undying love through the years is supreme & nothing else matters ... and he knows it. And welcomes & cherishes it.

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I'm a little saddened that you didn't enjoy this film. You may more, as you age.
As for me, I'll lift a line from it that applies so well, for me:

"I was right to have loved you, all those years ago."





What I had in mind was boxing the compass.

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You are missing the point. This is not your well worn traditional swashbuckling arrow shooting Robin Hood movie. It belongs to the genre of films made to appeal to the pretentious cognoscenti who incline towards the philosophy of existentialism with a healthy dose of epicureanism. Get it? They love love and the pleasures of life but then they view life as meaningless and hopeless. They live for the moment. Morals and eternal truths hold no cache for them. Recognizing it for what it is, I enjoyed it but I don't subscribe to the ideology behind it.

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What a crock, deusvolt. Your statement is the most pretentious one I've seen on the R&M message boards.

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Well, first of all I wasn't responding to your emotional post but to the original poster. Don't you understand the layout protocols on this site? These days, I prefer not to interact with naive lovesick schoolgirls who wear their hearts on their posts. "Get thee back to a nunnery!"

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Get thee a clue.

Your fatuous labeling of those who disagree with you is yet more proof that your own arrogance lends a great deal of hypocrisy to your statements about this film.

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Got your goat, did I? Sorry about that, heh! heh!

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Well to add my opinion in about the movie… I thought that it was a great story about life. I believe in the end Marian and Robin (after being poisoned) get this sense of life and what it’s about. They both finally get what they want and are unable to live and enjoy it. I feel this connection to Tolstoy’s The Death of Ivan Ilych by using this ending. But as I have just seen this movie for the first time I am still sorting it out. I know I am vague in my explanation but hopefully it will give a different perspective for everyone to think about.

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You're on the right track. It is a sad existensial movie and just like Tolstoy's story, it makes you wonder about the meaning of life and death. Please refer also to Victor Frankl's Logotheraphy. Although an existensialist, he turned that philosophy on its head by teaching that finding a meaning in life is vital for homeostasis and survival. He developed this psyhiatric method as a prisoner in a Nazi death camp. The recently popular spiritual book The Purpose-Driven Life has a similar approach although unlike Frankl's, it takes the path of Christianity. Frankl was Jewish but his logotheraphy is not religion based.

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You'll be much better once you heal from college.



What I had in mind was boxing the compass.

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Actually, I am an MS, MA with a doctorate honoris causa.

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What a shocker. Well, a few more decades away from there and you may learn some things. Unless the toxicity has surpassed any hopes of recovery.

What I had in mind was boxing the compass.

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I am sure I would not want to learn what you have "learned" which is to denigrate other people's hard-won, certified and recorded accomplishments. Talk about professional courtesy.

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Well I'm not sure I actually believe in a "right track" for anything analyzed. I have already read The Purpose Driven Life and wasn't that impressed. I don't really enjoy reading philosophy anymore. Thanks for refering me to Logotheraphy but I doubt I will get to another philosophy book anytime soon.

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Rec'd Purpose Driven Life as a gift. Flipped through first few pages and found it trite. You're the more patient reader.

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This movie really is a "Adult Love Story" as one reviewer put it so wonderful. Just watched this movie since long time. Last time I watched this I was teenager. There's huge difference now to the understandment of the story. For example my little brother (21) thinks this movie sucks big time.


I remembered that this one had an awful (depressing) ending, but now that I have my own wife/love this whole story suddenly makes sense. Only if you don't understand the (awesome) ending you won't like this or if you were expecting an action flick. Think about the ending this way: Robin first acts like "teenager" as he notices he is poisoned, then he "grows up" to adult and submits to love. It was so great moment when Robin understand that it isn't so bad that he is going to die, because his battles are over and is "time" for his love Marian... finally!

An epic ending to Robin Hood.

Great movie 9/10!

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This movie really is a "Adult Love Story" as one reviewer put it so wonderful. Just watched this movie since long time. Last time I watched this I was teenager. There's huge difference now to the understandment of the story. For example my little brother (21) thinks this movie sucks big time

I first saw this movie on TV many years ago, when I was in my early teens (can't remember what year exactly it was), and I absolutely loved it. I watched it with my mother, who absoloutely loved it as well. I was always inot history, and we both enjoyed movies that debunked myths and showed heroes in realistic light. It was one of my favourite movies, and it made quite an impact so I remembered many scenes from it even after all those years. Today I saw it for the second time, and it's just as good as I thought it was some 20 years ago.



better sorry than safe

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