I really did. It made me a little uncomfortable because of the gay overtones, but then I realized that it's just another part of life. Men will be men, right?! Haha!
shareThere were *no* gay overtones.
It was straight from beginning to end.
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More gay overtones would have added depth to it, but I understand how closeted Hollywood is/was. Still one of my favorite movies, even if we COULD have eliminated Elizabeth and just had Ben & Pardner as a couple (that would have been much more interesting, but it would have lost some of the story).
shareThis movie was great. If ever there was a musical for your average joe, here it is. I mean here it is. Amen.
shareTHERE WERE NO GAY OVERTONES...can you people watch a movie without thinking about men having sex? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY? Hollywood closeted? YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING.
shareHollywood closeted? YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING.
can you people watch a movie without thinking about men having sex?
I've always liked this film, for 30+ years anyway.
It was filmed in eastern Oregon between Baker and Richland.
Richland was where my Grandmother has lived since the mid-1960's and she has got quite a few stories that I hear on occasion, such as, how Lee Marvin would helicopter into town and play cards with the locals at the tavern most of the night and get rippin drunk (very in character). She claims there were "hippies" that were being used as extras in the film, camped out all over the area, naked most of the time and having sex in the meadows. I was at the site of NO NAME CITY one time when i was in my teens and can still remember seeing the mountain to the north that is so prominent in the film.
The following link tells how to get there but the location could be wrong about the wagon train scene, my Grandmother has always said it was filmed just outside Baker and I have to agree as the terrain looks much closer to the shots in film than anything I can remember in the Eagle Creek area although the wagon crash scene was probly filmed near Eagle creek.
http://www.oregonicons.com/paintyourwagondirections.htm
"Hey Ben, I'll be glad to help you work your claim."
I heard that filming it was a nightmare...it rained all the time, making the roads extremely muddy...and that Josh Logan, who was bi-polar was going through a manic phrase, and everyone had a hard time working with him...
I loved Rotten-luck Willy (Harve Presnell) and singing Mariah...he's so good looking, and to see him now, elderly...chubby and bald...time gets us all...
no name city was build in the mountains above Baker,Oregon. My uncle did the special effects for the movie (the collasping of the town, etc.) I visited the set several times with him. I have the bull and bear fight banner that hung over the middle of town, and many 35 mm slides that were taken during the filming of the movie.
shareIt is a great movie because it is hilarious to see clint and lee marvin sing. I mean I get the song I talk to the trees, but they don't listen to me, stuck in my head all the time. As far as gay overtones, I supppose you could look at it like that, but remember it was the 1960's and if there were only men around, something has to give somewhere. That's why they brought in the pro's, so they could avoid that situation. Anyone who is a Clint fan will love this movie- Clint said in an interview that he never made a musical. I guess it was a difficult movie to make. The director, Joshua Logan had a nervous breakdown and never directed another movie again. By the way, I was only 3 when this movie was made, and it is still one of my top 20 favorites of all time. It is fantastic on DVD in widescreen and remastered dolby digital audio- a must have.
shareThere were not a whole lot of women around seeking gold at the time and place the movie took place. That's just a historical fact. How does that mean gay overtones? I don't get it.
shareThis is my absolutely favorite movie of all time. I once told by business partner when he was questioning me about finances, "Pardner, I'll swap pouches with you anytime." He never questioned me again and even though I later bought him out, we still remain friends. When I die, I have requested my wife to have the song: "Where am I going I don't know, when will I get there I ain't certain, what will I get I ain't equipped to say, but who gives a damn, I'm on my way", played as they roll me out.
shareI saw no gay overtones, simply the immoral and scandalous decadence of two guys having mutually agreed sex with one man's wife.
I am surprised that there was not significant public outrage at the time of its original release in 1969 (maybe there was) and at its original certifications around the world, considering the film’s subject matter.
Perhaps the producers of Debbie Does Dallas, Deep Throat and the adult classic, Babyface, should re-release with a few songs added, in the hope that they too can pass the general Censor.
HELL YES!!! :-D This movie is a fookin' classic!!!!
I watched it for the first time when I was about 12 years old, and it really made an impression on me. :-) (A neighbor of mine had taped it off of satellite for my grandparents.)
When I was 14 years old, I used to watch it AT LEAST once a week. I totally idolized Ben Rumson and wanted to be just like him when I grew up. He was my hero.
I watched the movie so many times that the film finally broke in 1990, and my grandmaw got me the 'legit' two-tape VHS set that I've got now. Like to get it on DVD eventually, though.
"Nobody's gonna tell me how to think
Nobody's gonna use my blood for ink."---CGO.
I will concede that I have a lot of time for Lee Marvin's Wandering Star.
shareI've got the double-tape, too. I got it by accident, when I was visiting a friend in Tulsa, OK. We were on our way to lunch when I noticed a video store was selling out. 'Paint Your Wagon' and 'The Fighting Seabees' were my big prizes - spent a dollar for each of them. Since then, I've bought PYW on DVD, but I still have that double VHS.
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The only way your response is valid is by discounting or ignoring the sanctity of marriage which you are entitled to do.
I, on the hand, believe in the sanctity of wedlock. You remember the lines, 'to the exclusion of all others, for better or worse, richer or poorer, til death do you part, etc....' As such the behaviour depicted in the film is immoral; 'conflicting with generally or traditionally held moral principles'.
"I, on the hand, believe in the sanctity of wedlock."
As do I. And if Paint Your Wagon suggested that such a situation actually worked, I'd probably share your views. However, it shows the relationship between all three breaking down.
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Perhaps the producers of Debbie Does Dallas, Deep Throat and the adult classic, Babyface, should re-release with a few songs added, in the hope that they too can pass the general Censor.
No it wasn't pornographic but it was morally reprehensible. Remember it was 1969 when, hypocritical or not, the world had not quiet lost its moral high ground. This is evidenced by the original release rating in the US: Mature (over 17), Germany 16, Norway 16; not exactly what you would call a family film.
shareThey were a few weeks there they showed this movie a lot, and I loved it. One of the funniest musicals I have seen, and over all one of the funnier movies I have seen.
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I have always found this film to be a colossal bore and have never understood its appeal...and this is from a guy who really loves musicals, but this one puts me to sleep.
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I didn't see any gay overtones either. In fact, at a certain point in the film a bordello was built and it was filled with gorgeous women. I think every guy in the movie wnet there every night.
I loved the movie from start to finish. I usually don't like musicals because they can be so syrupy, the songs out of place with the action. The songs fit the action that was going on & the kind of songs they would sing at that time. The fact that they mostly used "non-professional" singers added to the reality. Especially Lee Marvin's gravelly voice.
I saw this movie at the theater with my mother & we laughed all the way through it.
I have watched it through the years & still find it to be very refreshing.
As for the "gay" overtones, I didn't notice anything. If you study that time period, men went without women for long periods of time. They would usually worked the mine fields & then go into town for some entertaiment when they had enough gold to buy themselves supplies, whiskey & women. Until the pioneers went west, any self respecting woman would not be caught out there. The only ones out there were the "bauds".
There are many numerous memorable lines in this movies. I saw it again this week & my favorite line right now is when Mad Jack Duncan is in the tunnel with the "farmer" kid. The boy is eager to work the mine like the rest of them for gold. He says: "Boy if the bloody religious aren't greedy". I worked at a religous organization (which will not be named) for a number of years & this quote hit home with me!
Damn straight I like this movie! (just going with the title of this board) I don't understand the logic behind those that don't.
I saw the original release in 1969, with my girlfriend. There is no one element of this movie that I like more than the other...
What I like is the music, the comedy, the camaraderie, and the brotherhood.
It is silly to make fun of Clint's song, we should all sing whether it sounds good or not!
As far as Lee Marvin's song, it was a number one hit after this movie.
I really object to something I found in Presnell's bio:
'The disastrous film version of Paint Your Wagon (1969) starring the highly miscast Lee Marvin, Clint Eastwood and Jean Seberg, was redeemed only by the presence of Presnell and his superb rendition of "They Call the Wind Mariah.'
How could they be miscast??? The 3 of them were perfect when Presnell was a minor character! Oh well, I love this movie, if others don't....then that's their choice. I give it 8/10.
I have this film on DVD. I don't watch it often, but I do enjoy it.
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