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I like it, but it's Preposterous


I like this show a lot, but it is preposterous. Here's why:

1) Jim always accepts the mission, so why does the tape even suggest that he might not? Also, why does he have to go to different public places each time to get the tape? Can't someone drop it off at his house? I just saw an episode where he pulled his car into a tollbooth, and the tollbooth attendant marked the booth as out of service, then walked away while Jim went into the tollbooth and listened to the tape there. Helloo!!! Highly Noticeable!!! At least go behind the tollbooth main office and listen to it in an alley!!!
2) As soon as Jim accepts the mission, the next scene is always him and Barney and the others finishing up with the plan. Even though the vast majority of missions take place in other countries, they always know the detailed blueprints of every building and have every crawlway and wall they have to drill through figured out.
3) Even though the vast majority of missions take place in Eastern-bloc countries, Mission Impossible team members are instantly highly-placed government officials, or military people whom nobody ever challenges on the grounds that "Who the F are You and why do you speak with a bad Czeckoslovackian accent?" Also, even though these countries have no black people in them, nobody ever notices Barney sneaking around in the electrical closets.
4) The plans are highly farfetched and not very believable. In real life it's more likely that they would just put a bullet in the villain or at worst poke him with a poison umbrella.

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I get that it's a TV show, but the thing that always bothered me the most (other than Briggs and Phelps listening to their top secret briefings over the speaker) was the fact that everyone actually got dressed up for the planning meeting. Were they going out to a nice restaurant afterwords? Or coming back from one?

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Back in the 60s, you would be expected to wear a suit to work. Going causal still meant wearing a tie and a less fancy jacket. It's only since then that one can wear jeans and sneakers to work and not be thought of as a bum. There were higher standards back in the day.

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Back in the 60s, you would be expected to wear a suit to work. Going causal still meant wearing a tie and a less fancy jacket. It's only since then that one can wear jeans and sneakers to work and not be thought of as a bum. There were higher standards back in the day. - adamwarlock

Agreed. My ex-mother-in-law used to say that in the 1960s, she wouldn't think of going even to the grocery store without being properly dressed, which included hat and gloves. Different standards between now and then, indeed.
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I don't mean business attire, I mean *dressed up*. I think Casey was even wearing a feather boa in one episode. And keep in mind, Jim Phelps was dressing up for this meeting, which was held in his own apartment. He was dressed smartly when he went out for the tapes, almost always with a tie and jacket, like your ex-mother-in-law said, but it was a lot more casual than in the meeting scene.

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1) we only see the missions where he says yes. sure.. they could do an episode where he decides not to and then we'd see Phelps drive off and get a burger somewhere and pay his electric bill... not a great use of 60 minutes of tv time.

2) they're an IMPOSSIBLE MISSION FORCE... half of these episodes are of guys playing other guys in rubber masks.. you think rounding up blue prints is going to be a major problem?

3) you are mistaken.. these are NOT Eastern Bloc Countries... there are Russians and there are Americans.. but THESE countries are polyglot mixtures of Latin American, Middle Eastern, AND Eastern European dictatorships! If Barney has to hide in a box there are no black people.. BUT if Barney is introduced to the evil Colonel and said Colonel doesn't flinch then we know that this exotic dictatorship DOES have black people.. AND big Greek guys who seem to always have a box truck and a uniform ready to go!!! That's a TV trope for ya.. and aren't we glad as it means John Colicos and Michael Ansara could be on just about every other week. Those were the days... get your glass of Tang kids .. Mission Impossible is on!

4) oh well... that's showbiz.. it would be nice if a team of writers, show runners, and production staff would sit and write 60 brilliant well thought out scripts and THEN approach the network about their great idea for a show. There are some MAJOR clunker episodes throughout.... though the first season with Steven Hill has some great episodes with priceless work by Wally Cox.

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1. As others said, it wouldn't be much of an episode otherwise.

2. It's a government agency. Presumably the missions are important enough to have spies scope out the locations and send back work. In some missions they have a vague idea and have to improvise.

3. Usually they're either important (albeit unknown) Americans or unimportant locals. Most episodes where they impersonate someone important require either Rollin to don a face mask or it's someone the target never met before. Sometimes it does happen that they have to pretend to be high-ranking military men, but that's usually after they suffer a setback and have to improvise. And we can probably assume that having everyone speak English is just a dramatic convention to make things easier on the viewers.

4. A mission like that probably wouldn't go to the IMF team. Sometimes they turn to violence when the situation gets hairy, but straight-up assassinations aren't what the show's about.

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just to answer part of #3, I always assumed they ARE speaking in the native tongue of these countries, but the producers wisely decided NOT to use sub-titles, understanding that the audience probably prefers to WATCH television, not READ it!!!

As for Barney - again, I am more impressed that a 1960's Network TV Series, premiering barely TWO YEARS after blacks got the right to vote in this country, would feature an African-American in a major role; AND that he would receive THREE Emmy nominations for his outstanding work. To me, that is the relevant point of "Barney" - not the idiotic question, "How would a black man blah blah blah.....???"




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"I am more impressed that a 1960's Network TV Series, premiering barely TWO YEARS after blacks got the right to vote in this country, would feature an African-American in a major role"

What country is that, Moon_and_new_York_City? I appreciate the point you are making, 'not the idiotic question, "How would a black man blah blah blah.....???"'

African Americans, including Greg Morris and 'Barney Collier' were voting longer than than two years before Mission: Impossible hit the airwaves. I know history is not as important in U.S. schools anymore, but it's also a matter of law. 14th Amendment 1868.


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Excuse me, but if all blacks were eligible to vote in 1868, the Voting RIghts Act of 1965 wouldn't have been necessary, would it?

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Unfortunately, yes it was necessary. No, not all blacks got the right to vote in 1868. Black females did not. Nor did white females. None of us "ladies" got the right to vote until 1920. Ironically, the corrections made to the 1868 law by the 1965 Voting Rights Act were directed primarily toward southern states. After 1868 most had passed state laws making it difficult, but not impossible, for black voters up until 1965. In 1868 it was those southern black male voters who overwhelmingly voted for Ulysses S. Grant for president, who won the election that year.

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1) Jim always accepts the mission, so why does the tape even suggest that he might not?


I liked Get Smart's take on this. Get Smart did an episode called "The Impossible Mission", which spoofed Mission Impossible. Just as in the show, Max plays a tape left by the Chief describing the mission. The Chief goes on to say: "Should you decide to accept this assignment, this department will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Should you decide not to accept it, you're fired."

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You're fired!<< lol

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"Should you decide to accept this assignment, this department will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Should you decide not to accept it, you're fired."


Haha, great one!

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I watched MI every week as a teen. As a budding technical expert, the show helped me develop a way of thinking of how to pull off difficult ventures. Years later I was able to do a number of things similar to what Barney would deploy.

For a while I was able gain entry to telephone/telex exchanges in several middle east countries. I needed to see first hand how they worked. Then back in the states I developed a system that could remotely monitor telex messages in real time. The only MI technique I never bothered with was the mask.

What your overlooking is the deep planning and social engineering that has to laid out well in advance. The thing with the photos makes perfect sense to me. That's an early step, pick you team members.

Look at it this way, MI is a one hour show about a fictional mission but many elements of the mission plausibly could have happened in real life.

If you watch a one hour show about some real world exploit such as the secret WW2 raids on the Norsk Hydro plant, would you declare it's implausible because they don't explain how the team member knew exactly how to blow up the ferry?

Bear in mind planned events often go badly and you need to improvise rapidly. This is exactly how things are in the real world. Once I was deep in a foreign embassy in NY doing a bug search and telephone tap search. I could have been caught but had more than one card up my sleeve. Risk is never zero. If you want a zero risk job, then your photo will never be in the MI folio.

BTW, blacks are found everywhere. If you take the time to study a local populace, you'll learn how a black team member can fit in seamlessly.

Language skills can be a problem but I learned Arabic and had no trouble in Saudi Arabia and the UAE. What about accent? It's best to not try and adopt a fully local identity. In most countries it's not an issue to be from somewhere else. I'll grant that MI stretches their language skills credibility a bit too far, but it's been done many times in the real world but not with one team every time.

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Those aren't bugs, they're features, @gavbrown01! The precision of their missions is part of the show's charm - that they can plan things so perfectly that they seldom go seriously wonky is why it's so appealing.

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I agree. You love them because they are so (preposterously) competent

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Jim always accepts the mission, so why does the tape even suggest that he might not?

I've seen a couple of "lost" episodes where he decided not to accept the mission...apparently they didn't air because they were too short, all of about five minutes apiece.

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5 minutes - just enough time for Jim to walk into the unused popcorn stand at the amusement park and play the tape on the counter - sounds right

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