I'm watching this movie in class, and I want to gouge my eyes out with a fork. People are going out to have quickies around the corner. The one hot girl in the class just went out. Does anybody want to talk? aim handle:jacobu9
"In class". Perhaps your instructor had a reason for showing you this film. It's a part of American history. Clowns like you only know video games, CGI tainted blockbuster films, etc You're hopeless...
I've seen many post such as this one from HS kids who have no clue what the history and background of some of these great movies are. Don't your teachers fill in the background? the place and time and reality of these events? Maybe a bit of Woody Guthrie to get you in the mood would help! Or, are you kids just jaded and self-centered with no empathy for human suffering? The film may have been fiction, but the struggles of the displaced was very real. Part of your education should include understanding the human conditon and what we who are not so economically depressed can do to help them. I hope in the intervening years since some of these posts, you guys have grown up a bit and can now see it through different eyes. It would be interesting for you to re-visit this film amd report back!
A movie MUST stand on its own regardless of the history of making, novel its based or or any of such. If a movie requires outside knowledge in order to be enjoyable, then IT IS A BAD MOVIE. and this applies to all films. Just because it depicts facts that are true does not make movie any better. If anything, it makes it worse because it shows lack of imagination.
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Actually, many of us already studied events, we already know the numbers and dates, and we remember the names. A movie is not supposed to have to repeat all the history we learned in school. It is supposed to dramatize it--make it personal. They should not have to put the history class in it. They should be able to assume we know all that and just move ahead with fictional characters placed in the historical setting. It is the talent of authors, screenplay writers, directors, cinematographers, and actors, plus all the crew that design and make sets and costumes that create the story and characters that touch us and bring their own stories to us so that we see things through their eyes, expanding our vision, maybe teaching us something new along the way....
The idea a movie is "bad" if you need to know something before you see it is absurd! Moronic. So limiting and boring to those of us who are educated! I cannot imagine if I was only allowed (through the function of funding) to see movies that use facts the most ignorant already know! They call that "lowest common denominator." If I can't see any movies that presume facts that you don't know, I'm through with movies.
For you (young?) guys, you could never see anything that relies on information we old ladies don't care about enough to know! There go all your comic book hero movies, all your action movies. Bye bye, sports films. I hate sports, except the Olympics...I'm a sucker for that stuff. But don't throw that X-Men crap at me--I don't have a clue what those people are talking about.
And, btw, lots of knowledge we humans collect in our lives we don't learn until we are older and have the time. I had a prof in college that seemed to think we needed to memorize every battle in WWII. I could not do it...taking 15 to 19 units while working 24 to 45 hours a week....no way I could absorb all that stuff. But now, I love that stuff. Plenty of time to watch documentaries and read books.I can watch movies now that presume I know the subject matter.
Did you ever notice that "boring" is in the eye of the beholder? I doubt your dad would find the new Bridget Jones has a baby movie to be anything but boring, just as Batman and Matrix films put me to sleep. Every generation differs. God forbid I have to see your taste or you mine. But saying they cannot require us to have any extraneous knowledge is just moronic bs. That itself is boring! I want to be challenged. I learned more about Mozart after Amadeus, more about the Russian Revolution after Reds. I even googled a lot about LeMans after watching the movie. It's called intellectual curiosity. Try a little--it'll do you well.
Except that Xmen movies stand perfectly fine on their own and i dont need to read the comic books to understand them. You are attacking a strawman that doesnt exist.
Actually my dad would probably like the Birdget Jones movie more than me.
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This entire thread is a catalogue of comedy gold, which could never have happened without SO MANY ANGRY FANS.
I would love to see Ali G interview you all. You would be totally clueless about what was happening, why you felt so angry, and why so many people were laughing.
First, why get angry? Surely you are all ADULT enough to simply accept the original post as a personal failing of the poster's taste and appreciation. Why get so enraged? So people have different tastes! Those people who like Transformers and hate my favourite films, so friggin what? No way am I gonna hissy fit about it! It's not a personal insult! Grow up, adults!
Second, the film is Boooooring (notice the capital 'b'?). I had a quickie whilst watching it. In fact, when we're not listening to loud music, tattooing our bodies, and maxing out daddy's credit card, all young people ('youth') are having quickies all the time anyway. But this film made for great ambient noise (even if that noise was a little Boring). I'm actually even having a quickie as I tpye thsi sntencee
I found school to be boring actually. Very little outreach on what you have to deal with in life. Just a bunch of candy-coated ideas. I was not going to fail it, I wanted to get out as fast as possible.
I think the reason youngsters don't like this movie is because it is so bleak! After all, the mass electronic media they're plugged into feeds them non-stop agony, suffering and tragedy. Who wants to watch 2 hours of sheer misery on top of their daily bread? Who enjoys seeing white people treated as poorly as Blacks concurrently were? (Did anyone notice there weren't any Blacks in this here movie?)
Contrastingly, this movie appeals to me for several reasons. First, the B&W cinematography is absolutely spectacular. Also, my daughters are "Okies" (Born in Midwest City, OK). And because of the way the movie ends (which differs from the book), it projects a feeling of hopefulness (or possibly just hope). Despite the way these people kept getting beaten down, they are relentless, and represent a major part of what's good about America - the indomitable spirit of its people.
P.S. - this post is so out of character for me on this here forum. One might actually think me decent, with something positive to contribute, instead of the one-liner spouting cynic who spends his time poking the wild beasts that roam over this savannah.