https://www.tmz.com/2021/05/24/elliot-page-first-shirtless-photo-trans-breast-removal-surgery/
WTF ! π²
It looks completely unhealthy. The abs are most likely fake as well.
shareOne of the most demonic images I've ever seen.
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And here she is, looking deep into your soul !
https://preview.redd.it/luvtc59nken61.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=02aa7237da9949823fa950751e92bc5f050df2cd
Wow, looks a bit like a tough guy in that picture! π
shareIt is ripped...
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Ok, if she gets a wiener I would agree to call her "he". Although she still will not be a man, biologically but at least the effort deserve some recognition.
Plus: if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, LOOKS like a duck then it PROBABLY is a duck ...
PS: if the picture is not a fake I would say that she had a fantastic surgeon ...
PPS: did she had those abs before the surgery as well???
Dos it actually work when they get one or is it just for decoration? I can't imagine it works. There's nothing to connect it to. No (male) reproductive system.
I agree that appears to be plastic surgery.
Define works ...
making babies? Nope.
getting a boner? I have no idea ...
So the clitoris will have a "boner" lol.
But the built penis needs an external mechanism in order to be usable for sex. And of course no ejaculation (unless there's another external mechanism built for it).
At least they can pee standing, haha
I hear they put air pockets and a little pump into it so the trans can inflate their fake dong like those pump sneakers from the 90s.
shareSo... it'll be like John Cena, with the added FU!
shareAlso those things looks disgusting and they leave a huge nasty scar on the thigh because they graft the skin from there.
shareAlso, genetically, El is not a man. El still has XX chromosomes and always will. However, I am not going to hate on El. Gender dysphoria is a real thing and those afflicted with it are much more likely to self delete than the average person. Apparently Page is afflicted by this and this is a strategy she is using to cope with her disorder. I genuinely wish Page all the best in his/her/they's journey.
shareNo one will hate her (I HOPE). I would like to think that people negatively react to her asking others to call her "her".
At least that's my complain about her. She can call herself whatever she wants to, just don't ask me to do the same ...
If people think itβs unreasonable for transgender people to want to be referred to as their preferred gender pronouns, then Iβm not going to call those people by their preferred names. Iβm just going to call them whatever name I decide to pick regardless of their preference. That okay with you Adolph?
shareI will NOT ask you to call me by my preferred name, I will ask you to call me by my legal name. What a surprise, don't you think??
It's a difference between calling someone by an objectively correct name/pronoun and calling someone by some fantasy/picked up name/pronoun. And interesting enough that's the idea behind the non-binary genders: they ask others to call them according to some fantasy.
In this particular case, the forum username can be considered the legal name, or rather an identifier.
PS: and YES, people call other people with invented names all the time, it's called "nicknames" and most of the times those nicknames are NOT chosen by the ones that those nicknames are assigned to. Welcome to the real world.
I will not call you by your legal name nor any βnicknameβ. I will call you whatever I feel is logical to call you, regardless or anything you have to say about it. And you will be wrong to think of yourself as anything but what I say you will be called.
shareHahaha, it doesn't work like that. I don't call her based on a fantasy or whatever I "feel" is logical to call her.
I call her by objective terms, biologically determined that are immutable and OBJECTIVELY define her.
If you can't see the difference sorry but you are part of the problem.
βIt doesnβt work like thatβ? Um, thatβs EXACTLY how it works!
And I am a part of the problem? In all seriousness, Iβm perfectly accepting of how people want to view themselves. How is being open and accepting of people being βa part of the problemβ? What problem anyways? That the human race is filled with all kinds of different people? IMO, the problem with this world is how close minded and down right MEAN people are. Who is Elliot Page, or any other trans person, hurting by simply declaring they are a certain way and wanting to simply be respected?
"Iβm perfectly accepting of how people want to view themselves."
Are you a bit dense? I already said the same, she can view herself as she wants to see herself.
Just don't ask me to view her the same.
"That the human race is filled with all kinds of different people?"
Nope, no one denies that, and that's not the problem.
"Who is Elliot Page, or any other trans person, hurting by simply declaring they are a certain way and wanting to simply be respected?"
No one as long as they don't force others to comply with their views.
Is it that fucking hard for close minded people like you to understand that???
I don't care how she calls herself, man, cat, dog, napoleon, god, whatever. Just don't ask me to agree that her fantasy is reality.
So, according to you, if I FEEL that I own your house I have the right to kick you out of your house and you will just happily hand it over just because I'm declaring that the reality is a certain way?
And it's so insane that this kind of things come from people that pretend to be "pro-science" ... and blame the other side as "science deniers" ... rofl
This isnβt about science or fantasy, this is about common human decency. Transgenderism is a real thing, regardless of how you categorize it, whether as a sickness or something wrong with their brain. Yes, itβs a fact they were born one sex or the other. Itβs also A fact is that what they feel is real. These people didnβt choose to feel they were born with the wrong gender. You can use science to spread hateful unacceptance, people do it all the time, or you could just go with it and help people who are different cope in a cruel world.
shareYeah, and that's the idea: instead of chopping parts of them we could help them feel right into their own body.
It's about morphing their fantasy to match reality and not reality to match their fantasy.
But somehow we got that backwards and YOU want to enforce it on everyone ...
Hint: we try to change the minds of suicidal people and not organizing hunting parties to kill them faster ...
βHelp them feel right in their own bodyβ?!?! Holy shit! Thatβs going down a super dark and depressing path. Iβm done.
shareRight... like the whole "body acceptance" movement? That's super dark and depressing. Or people with body dismorphia? Yeah, we should be telling those 80lb grown women that they really ARE the fat obese blobs that they think they are. Otherwise we're "denying their existence, and lived experience," right?
It's obviously better and healthier for everyone to artificially pretend to bend reality, and science, and society to fit the perceptions of the 1% of people with these issues, rather than to help that 1% come to terms with reality and science, and help them accept and love themselves for who and what they actually are.
THAT would be compassion.
But apparently in 2021, obvious compassion for the few is now oppression. And obvious oppression of the many is now compassion. And so on goes the loony Left...
You hit the nail on the head! π
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But DSM will remove gender dysphoria and transgenderism from being a mental illness. Maybe they already did it, not sure.
So then we will not be able to say it is a mental problem.
Yes, itβs a fact they were born one sex or the other.
Itβs also A fact is that what they feel is real.
These people didnβt choose to feel they were born with the wrong gender.
If they are hurting others, I agree that people need to not do it. But transgender people are NOT hurting anyone! You can saw they are deforming their body, but itβs their choice. People with tattoos deform their body. People with piercings deform their body. People who shave and get haircuts deform their body. Iβm sure youβd say that it different, but where does one draw the line, and who gets to decide? Bottom line, transgender people should have the right to do what they want without hateful bigots pushing their fascist agendas onto them.
shareMaking up your own nickname is like liking your own posts on social media.
shareI don't have a preferred name, I have a legal one, and it's the only one I have.
shareYou don't address a person by pronoun. You use their name. If you don't know them obviously you also don't know their preferred pronoun, how the fuck can you know that? However, when talking about "him", it's not "his" fucking business what pronoun someone uses, it's not "his" conversation and "he" is not part of it.
Now I don't like female to male trans people who insist on being viewed as a man, because they're not. It is gender appropriation. I'm a man, she is not, no matter how she identify. I don't care, she is not what I am AT ALL, she doesn't have the experience of a man, the life of a man, the concerns of a man, the bodily issues of a man, she doesn't know how the fuck it is to be a man, she's a fake man, a pretend man.
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we need a "Like" button ..