For a man who has consistently fought to ensure that poor Americans couldn't get even half the treatment he is getting for his illness. all because he didn't want to pay a slightly higher amount of tax.
or at least was happy that "he had made it" and would be fine keeping the peasants from getting what he did.
And here's why he gets zero sympathy. There's the adage, "you reap what you sow." Or you can call it karma.
If you have no sympathy for others and spew hate speech, and you will get the same in return.
The guy died last year at aged 70.
You people need to face up to your hate, and try to not let it consume you.
Who are "you people"? And what "hate"?
I don't believe in hate. This guy made a career of it. Rude behavior should not be rewarded.
You and the other one. The two people talking. The you I was talking to. You people. I'm not sure what more to say here.
And you clearly believe in hate. Your post is dripping with it.
Where is my post "dripping with it"? I was merely explaining why someone who made a career of being rude and spreading hate speech gets zero sympathy. I was responding to the OP.
I never said I hated anybody. I just don't believe in rewarding rude and obnoxious behavior.
The bit where you slam a guy dying/dead of cancer, for saying shit you disagree with. That's hate, real hate.
I'm not talking about topics I disagree with. Everyone has an opinion, but that doesn't give them a right to make a career of being obnoxious.
shareJust a coincidence that the "obnoxious" guy you attacked happens to disagree(d) with you on all political matters, right?
Heh heh.
First off... I despise politics. The entire political system is evil, and I refuse to have anything to do with it.
Secondly... I don't discuss stupid politics and don't care to hear others talking about it.
I don't care what the topic is... politics or anything else. If someone can't conduct themselves in a civilized, professional manner then I don't want to hear it.
When you dismiss other people's speech as "hate" you are engaged in politics and a very divisive and poisonous form of it.
If you really, did not realize that, then this is the part where you thank me for helping you be truer to yourself. And we become bestest friends
Otherwise, this is where you double down.
I am curious to see which path you take.
he deserved to be hated and despised. he did his part to ensure poor Americans couldn't get the treatment he did. and im supposed to be sad? hopefully he died in pain it was well deserved
shareYou are trying so hard. Rush was a hateful person and you are defending him because you agree with the hateful things he said.
shareI didn't listen to his program, but heard a number of excerpts over the years, and never heard anything hateful. I certainly never heard anything from him that suggested he wanted anyone to suffer, or to receive low-quality healthcare. The disconnect seems to be your belief that anyone who disagrees with you must be full of hate, since you're certain that only your political beliefs are based out of love and altruism, so the other side must be about hate and greed.
shareSo?
So now people can have no sympathy for you as you have no sympathy for others and are spewing hate speech about others.
shareOh really? When did I say I have no sympathy for others? I'm merely explaining why someone who made a career of being rude and spreading hate speech gets zero sympathy. See the OP.
share"And here's why he gets zero sympathy"
That's where you said you had no sympathy, now you are the one spreading hate speech about a dead man.
That was an explanation in response to the OP's comment. I never gave my personal opinion.
shareAh I see my mistake, I thought you were giving your opinion. So did you sympathise with him then? You've mentioned hate speech a few times, it's a concept I don't particularly agree with personally. I don't think emotions should be legislated against, people should be free to love or hate what they want.
shareI don't believe in wishing evil upon anyone. That doesn't mean I agree with them. And I don't believe in rude behavior being rewarded.
I had a coworker who would listen to the Limbaugh radio show. On every program, all the guy did was talk about stupid politics, so eventually I mentally tuned it out. I didn't need to hear the individual words to understand what was going on. I could pick up his tone of voice... always agitated and ranting.
You can love or hate whatever you want. There is no need to be obnoxious about it.
"Obnoxious" is subjective though and what's considered rude differs from person to person and from culture to culture.
What was Rush' reward for your perceived rude behaviour from him? Was it all the hate he received? People get paid for sharing their opinions all the time now. I'm not sure how you can essentially sidestep all of the hate he got by saying you don't wish evil on anyone, but then also agree someone deserves hate due to them what? Having an agitated rant? Seems quite contradictory.
Tbh it sounds like your issue was more with your coworker making you listen to a show you didn't want to rather than any specific positions Rush held.
"What was Rush' reward for your perceived rude behaviour from him?"
Achieving fame and recognition. Making money from his radio show and books.
"I'm not sure how you can essentially sidestep all of the hate he got by saying you don't wish evil on anyone, but then also agree someone deserves hate due to them what?"
I didn't say I wished evil or hate upon anyone. I was explaining why he received the hate. You need to work on reading comprehension.
And my coworker didn't "force me" to listen to the Limbaugh show. He listened to it for entertainment value and to see how outrageous the program could become. If I had asked him to turn the station, he would have had no problem with it. I mentally tuned it out anyway.
What I don't understand is why you continue to defend a person of this caliber.
No the fame, recognition and money were rewards for his work not this subjective "rudeness" you keep alluding to.
You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth here so I'll be direct. Did Rush deserve the hate he got?
"His work" involved presenting this loudmouth, obnoxious persona. And yes, unless this was all an act, he earned it. What goes around comes around.
shareAaaand the mask slips as suspected. You have no moral high ground here.
So basically my original post to you stands and you did this ridiculous dance around the forest to try and skirt stating your actual opinion. Fucking pathetic tbh, have some conviction.
Touch a hot stove and you will get burned. That's a fact. You repeatedly tell kids not to touch the stove but they do it anyway. Are we now supposed to feel sorry for them, after they've been told time and time again not to touch it? Yes, because they are children. But when an adult repeatedly does something they know is wrong, I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Not that I wish evil upon them, but they had it coming due to their actions. They were told they shouldn't act a certain way, yet they continued to do so. They brought it all upon themselves.
Spew hate speech and you will get it back. That's what Limbaugh made are career of doing, and then people wonder why he gets zero sympathy.
Your mask slipped long ago. Your responses contain F-words and name-calling. You obviously condone rude and obnoxious behavior, yet accuse me of having no morals.
This is my final post because every time someone responds it allows Limbaugh to show up in the "trending" feed. He doesn't deserve any publicity. And I don't have time for trolls who like to argue and hear themselves talk. Talk is cheap.
Oh stfu you weak cunt, you were too afraid to state your true opinion so I had to practically drag it out of you. I already said people should be free to love or hate what they want, I just wanted you to put on your big boy pants and own your opinion. But I reiterate you have no moral high ground as you are as hate filled as those you claim to oppose, your false piousness is utterly laughable.
shareI sure dont. I hope he died in pain. hes actively and objectively did his part to ensure other poor Americans did. why should I have sympathy for a disgusting monster?
shareyep 100%. disgusting piece of garbage
sharePeople who speak simple, obvious truth these days are naturally hated by LIEberals.
sharelike him claiming Michael j fox was exaggerating his Parkinson's? LOL it was simple that he fought against poor people getting healthcare. while having the best healthcare himself. hopefully he died horribly.
shareYou do know that hospitals can't turn away a poor person, right? If they come into the ER, they cannot legally turn them away. They have to save their life even if they cannot pay. It has been that way for over 50 years. This "caring about health care" craze was always a way to shift that burden to the people. No one claimed the old system was broken during the Clinton admin (because it wasn't).
It is a fact that MJ Fox skipped his meds for that commercial. He was shakier in it. You can compare it to his then contemporary appearances. ie. He used his condition for politics and got caught giving a performance. That is all. This the simple report of what MJ Fox did that got the narrative of Rush making fun of him started. I mean, sure, Rush was a fool for even touching the story (and that is part of what makes that kind of commercial so great. Unassailable!) and should have taken the high road but he didn't.
Most of what people think they know about Rush is directly from the mouths of his political enemies. What else could they possibly say/think?
1. a life of massive debt is incredibly stressful and damaging. saying "be grateful! you own 80k but you are alive!
2. lets pick cancer. its not an "ER" thing. people may not get turned away for obvious life threatening things. the point is they dont go for things that would be indicators of serious diseases down the line. its called preventative. so yes when they already have stage 3 cancer and go to the ER they MAY get help. by then its too late.
3. wtf do you mean no one???????????? Americans broken private healthcare system has been long standing.
4. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fox-i-was-over-medicated-in-stem-cell-ad/ WRONG. wow you cant get anything right can you. but thats the calibre of a Limbaugh fan
5.""Most of what people think they know about Rush is directly from the mouths of his political enemies. What else could they possibly say/think?" I dont care what unfounded comment you make without evidence. ive seen enough to know he was scum. but keep going man. this is a good image."
you have to be the lowest of the low to defend Limbaugh. congrats
1. This is a valid point. But people like you never had a problem with it until your political masters told you to.
2. Similar to # except that poor people with cancer did get treated. Would Bill Clinton have let this happen??? Answer: he and all Democrats like you did.
3. The issue of "health care" was showing up around #25 or higher in polls (conducted in the mid-90s) about what the people are most concerned about. No one gave a shit about it. People had insurance and if they didn't, they payed it off not unlike any loan. The Democrat party started pushing it around then, making claims that "the people want health care!" when the polls showed that maybe 1 in 6000 even mention it. The "broken" status was and is a controlled narrative and propaganda.
4. Democrats were complaining that Republicans were using Vets in advertising to classlessly garner sympathy votes (and they were right). They then went and used MJF in the exact same way. Rush pointed this out. The narrative inspiring your rage was the response.
5. Fair enough.
Name something the Democrats believe that you disagree with.
1. wrong im not even America. American healthcare has been horrible for a long time. sorry let me be more specific. American healthcare for anyone not upper middle class and rich has been horrible for a long time.
2. who is talking about Clinton? you are living in the past, 21 years ago. I was also 10 when Clinton left office. so your accusations are misguided. it was always a problem but the progressive wing of the Democratic Party was far weaker. likely only Bernie Sanders and afew others made a stink.. you however still arent seeing the different between an operation to treat a disease, vs preventative. these people arent going in for a small lump, they cant afford to. so they are avoiding healthcare. they only go in 6 years later when the lump has swollen and they can barely walk and by the the operation will cause lifelong difficulties. as well as being far more costly. this is the downside of the private system and how "well no one gets turned away!" reality is far more complicated.
3. id partly chalk this up to income inequality. as the middle class deteriorated and those who were poor grew and needed it most. also these polls likely didnt mostly check on poor ass people. one study shows medical costs are as high as 60% of all bankruptcies https://www.thebalance.com/medical-bankruptcy-statistics-4154729. while ive seen it at 30% in an aggregate study of 6 states. this nonsense of insurance companies fighting people who have paid premiums their whole life on technicalities is unheard of in other countries.
4. MJF is free to do as he wants. saying vets shouldn't be used as pawns, is a lot different than saying MJF is faking and exagurating his symptoms. did dems claim the vets were lying about their injuries ect?
5. I was little harsh, but telling me how other people think about him is due to this other thing, has no bearing on me. and this is a debate between us
as for things I disagree on
1. I hate antifa and are for largely crushing them
2. im for far stricter immigration and border control
3. I agreed with trumps rhetoric on china, even though his execution did nothing
4. im for everything but outright war with china. they must be crushed.
5. im for a far higher corporate tax on large corporations and the wealthy. and almost none on the poor and middle class.
theres a lot more I disagree with them on
the issue is however progressives vs corporate dems are day and night on issues. so its hard to say what I "disagree" with dems on when one group may be for X, and the other the opposite.
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I concur with everything on your disagree list and your prior positions on protection for women’s sports. The devil is in the details on no. 5 but, there is common ground
shareI may be an outlier in many ways among "progressives", but each person is different and no one aligns fully on every issue with the stereotype of their camps positions
my position on 5 is largely supply side economics. during the Cold War america actually had to offer an attractive alternative to communism. that meant combined with what the new deal did, American elites actually had to make it so their poor and middle class had decent standards of living. education was incredibly affordable for one, American infrastructure was great ect.
since supply side economics the wealth transfer began. productivity has massively risen. productivity has massively risen, while wages have stagnated since the late 70s. someone got that money and continues to. well its pretty clear from wealth inequality and record corporate profits and shareholder dividends who got it and who didnt.
now im fine with inequality. I want equality of opportunity, not outcome. but its pretty clear that no longer exists. the rich kids go to the best schools. yours may go to an underfunded one. they see the best doctors no issue, while your insurance company fights you on a technicality. you get poorly funded, poorly trained police, while they live in a gated community with a prove security group.
most countries realized that to get people to have the chance of opportunity, a certain baseline needs to be met. at least education up to high school, possibly more affordable college, and healthcare. if a family is already crippled with debt by the time they are 20, its alot harder to start a business, or buy a house.
https://www.weforum.org/reports/global-social-mobility-index-2020-why-economies-benefit-from-fixing-inequality/
america isnt even in top 20 for economic/ social mobility. this is what happens when you crush the poor and middle class. they have rigged the system to benefit the wealthy.
He talked about what Democrats were doing and played sound bites with full context. Hating him is like hating the cop who gave you a speeding ticket (or hating a cop that gave your boss a ticket, in cases like here)
He wasn't perfect and I disagreed with a lot of what he had to say but he was actually a kind person and a very good broadcaster. People dislike whom they dislike. I don't have a bone to pick with anyone over that. You want to shit on his grave? More power to ya. It's your portrait. Paint away.
Similar to the Libs of TikTok situation it seems some don't like the mirror being held up to them.
shareDoes a kind person hate drug addicts then become one himself? No, they do not.
shareHe was not charitable to drug addicts and then became one, yes. Big flaw. (The guy was a conservative. His maximum coolness factor is lower.) He apologized and was open about his bad behavior on the matter. You don't think it is possible to have this flaw and be a kind person? Nice people can do shitty things.
There are many stories out there from Left leaning celebs whom have run into Rush. They all say the same thing. "Way nicer than I thought"
It might be reasonable for single big flaw, but he did not stop at a single big flaw. He wanted to insult nearly everyone. Limbaugh was a cockroach.
shareWhat makes you think the treatment he got was all that great? He died pretty quickly. He might have lived longer and better without it.
shareWell, I have zero sympathy for liberals.
shareRIP Rush
Normal and rational people miss you.