It's a lot harder than it seems. I myself am not vegan or vegetarian, and I doubt I ever will be. I'm extremely lazy and selfish, and I love meat too much. But I have no logical way to justify my choices. I am literally paying people to murder innocent, sentient beings, when I can easily survive on a vegan diet.
This is what you choose as your first post?
shareFirst post of a new sock that is. π π π π
shareWhich one?
shareWho the hell knows, the socks and trolls are starting to outnumber the real people here lately.
Weβll outlast them though.
If vegans are right, why do they try and make all their products taste like meat?
shareAs a nearly 40 year vegetarian (lacto-ovo) I can assure you that most of what you see on the shelves doesn't taste like meat and don't make any real attempt to. I personally find the meat-substitute thing a bit tedious but not terrible. And veganism isn't about how something tastes, it's about where it comes from. I'll also point out that a lot of vegetarian processed "meat substitute" food doesn't sell to vegetarians as much as you might think. A fair amount of it is for non-vegetarians (especially non-vegans) who have dietary needs. I'm been asked by a lot of meat eaters about "meat substitute" due to medical reasons.
shareIt was meant as a joke.
shareAnd I can accept that from you. You seem to be one of the more level-headed people around here. I just see a lot of meat eaters who think this is a valid observation. Two companies make a bit of a stir in the meat-substitute world and the next thing you have tons of the anti-vegetarian crowd screaming bloody murder. Some have even claimed that the fact that meat substitutes often take the form of a patty is reason enough alone to call it a fraud... as if the beef burger patty is a natural cut of meat. This is normally from the same people who also think that turkey burger is a threat to the meat loving world and some kind of communist conspiracy.
shareThanks. Tbh I eat vegan food every so often and itβs come on leaps and bounds in recent years. Personally I have no problem with what people want to eat, as long as they let me eat what I want.
shareHello! Welcome to the forum! I am fairly new still but Moviechat has a nice forum here and everyone is really friendly.
I'm not sure if I could convince you or if you are even right or wrong. I eat meat, but I've known both men and women who were very healthy and fit, who were meat eaters, vegetarians and vegans. I'm not sure if there is a perfect diet.
I understand some people take up that lifestyle because they are against the abuse of farm animals. I do admire that and I wish I could say I was that strong to control my appetite, but I love the taste of meat and for me it's hard to give that up.
There's a big difference between "surviving' and "living", LaKisha.
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So true.
I'm veggie because I'm fortunate enough to live in a country with an abundance of food. Many are not so lucky and eat what they can to survive.
If I were starving and on my last legs and a chicken strolled past, then instinct would kick in and the chicken would be no more.
Likewise. These dietary limitations are a choice, not a necessity, and if someone is willing to die to spare a chicken that would also be their choice.
And some people really are willing to stick with a nutritionally inadequate vegan diet, even if the vitamin and protein deficiencies that come with a vegan diet make them ill. I'm not, and that's one of the big reasons I'm a vegetarian and not a vegan. The other big reason is cheese.
Okay then.
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"I am literally paying people to murder innocent, sentient beings"
We've reviewed your request to redefine the term murder, and after much consideration, we regret to inform you that your request has been denied. We feel that it is best at this time to retain the well-established definition, i.e., the unlawful killing of a human with malice aforethought.
Theyβre not.
shareBut I have no logical way to justify my choices. I am literally paying people to murder innocent, sentient beings, when I can easily survive on a vegan diet.
I feel the same way!
Ideally they start growing non sentient meat in a lab soon ...
I think my main issue with meat (which im ignoring and vontiniuing to eat) is the amount of resource it takes to produce it, ie feeding the cattle/pigs . compared to the amopunt of food could be grown in that space
I'm going to sit back and let some other folks try the non-sentient lab meat first.
Maybe even wait a decade or so to see if there are any lasting side effects like a useless third appendage growing out of your back.
Animals can't murdered.
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