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Do you think if recreational drugs and alcohol were non-existant, the world would be a better place?


Pretend that regular medicine still exists but no one abuses prescription drugs, drinking alcohol and "get high" drugs simply do not exist. What would happen?

People would have their wits about them at all times.

They would be forced to deal with the problems they have in their lives, instead of climbing into a bottle or rolling a joint.

Maybe people would watch more movies or play videogames to escape life instead? Will there always be escapism that will be abused?

*I had to edit, to be clear that regular medicines still exist in this hypothetical question*

*Edit: Added more thoughts on users"

If its pills: Some people moderate themselves, but I have known many people in my life to overdose on pills and I dont think they all commited suicide. Some just took stuff they werent prescribed and that kind of user has no side effect warnings or dosage warnings to read like if they were prescribed them by a doctor. And they dont know for sure the pills they bought are the real deal either.

If its weed: Out of dozens of people I've known and interacted with. Chronic weed smokers have no ambition and dont have forward momentum in their lives. The plant has many uses and positives, but people get wayyy too lazy and uncreative when they do the stuff. If you're smoking pot everyday you may have a problem. That being written, only a very rare handful of people I knew smoked pot only sometimes and they kept their ambition and moved forward into successful lives. But like I said it was rare from my point of view.

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I think that’s an excellent question.

Most working people are under a tremendous amount of stress…the violent dogfight commute, the shitty parking, the never ending and always changing work rules and the soul crushing staff meetings…It’s real kick in the teeth to pay the bills!

Disagree if you wish but a few hard drinks or a joint every now and then can really mellow an agitated fellow, a good high can blunt the point of the spear aimed at your belly every goddamned day

Also, I’d suggest only booze and weed, I DO know a lot of dudes that got super messed up on the cocaine and heroin…One guy is dead, another did 6 months in County and the other guy started doing gay stuff in cars with dudes…
avoid that heavy stuff

Liquor, Beer and Weed are all quite fine…just stay put and NO driving👍

People will always find a way to get a bit high…guys in jail drink cough syrup and Lysol

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The grind of daily life has made most of us miserable! You have some good points. I would say if youre life isnt working the way you want you gotta make the effort to change it for the better or try a new profession!

Moderation is good in most things, and good points. Well written!

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Believe it or not, there were times in history when recreational drugs didn't exist, and you know what happened? People found other ways to be naughty and addicted. So their lives weren't improved from lack of options to be bad, their lives were better if they CHOSE not to bury themselves in controlled substances. But as we know, most people are too weak-minded to stand up to that kind of an escape.

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But now that we have freer society (at least in some parts of the world) there is no feifdom or peasantry. We have choices and people keep making bad ones.

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Hehehe, the Medieval Catholic Church couldn't stop people from getting addicted to drugs or alcohol, and if you look even further back into other ancient societies, it wasn't about having a powerful faction bar people from being addicted to stuff; it was about lack of options. So people found other ways to escape.

In fact, the only religious group in the West that fought hardest against drugs and alcohol were Protestant Christians. And even they couldn't stop all of the addiction.

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Remember, people abuse "regular" drugs all the time.

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i don't think there's one answer.
i think each drug is very very different from another one, & i would never say 'all of them should be treated equally & should go.'

i absolutely think alcohol can be one of the most destructive things in a person's life. that's obvious. we all probably know someone who has experience with that.

but at the same time, it's something that can be a great social lubricant.

like almost everything in life, it's complicated and there's no binary right answer to this to me.

on a personal level:
i think my life would be a lot better if i'd never ever touched alcohol.
but my life would be much, much worse and much less rich if i'd never done psychedelics. i absolutely encourage everyone to try mushrooms or ecstasy or acid at least once. i think that's something that can provide genuine enlightenment, life-changing insight. not to sound like a gd hippie.

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Good post, some drugs (as others pointed out) have no real merit at all in society. But some have many positives that cannot be ignored. I have heard many things about psychedelics but at this point in time I strongly am against taking anything like that personally. Though it is fascinating.

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Absolutely!! Drugs and alcohol destroy millions of lives and families. The bad most definitely outweighs the good.

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What is difficult to measure is how much pain branches out from drug sales and drug use. Many people hurt and killed over someone wanting to get rich and someone wanting to get high.

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I'm sure many police officers and departments would love to see them disappear. The amount of time they have to spend dealing with the fallout from drug and alcohol abuse is ridiculous, and we the taxpayers are on the hook for the costs in time and $$$.

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No.

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As much as I think the world would be better overall without them, the temptation to do "bad" things would exist whether drugs existed or not, so things would be different but people wouldn't. And if regular medicines still existed, then they'd be able to be converted into and abused like recreational drugs.

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