The best romantic comedy of all time?
The Quiet Man (1952)
shareI don't watch enough of them to presume I know which ones are the best ones, but my personal favorites are 'Sleepless in Seattle,' and 'Love Actually.'
Also, I don't consider 'My Cousin Vinny' a Rom-Com, personally. It's a comedy, with a romantic subplot.
So, you're suggesting my submission should be considered invalid because of what you personally consider?
share"Considered invalid?" LMAO. By who? I literally used the word "personally," to make it explicitly clear that it's my opinion, and nothing more. Relax, guy.
shareI'm wondering why you chose to single out my submission to criticize. On the surface, it looks like you have a bias toward that film, and you're painting it with a broad brush by labeling it simply as "a comedy." If you look at that movie's board, it's classified as 'comedy/crime'. It could be more accurately classified as dark-comedy/crime/romance, to cover all the bases, but apparently you find armed robbery and murder as just plain funny.
The comedic elements of their relationship were integral to both the case involved and the film. Marisa Tomei won an Oscar for that performance and rightfully so.
I'm wondering why you chose to single out my submission.
Because when I read though threads like this, I pause and consider each film named by other posters. Then I give my opinion. That's kind of what this place is FOR. That's what people DO here. And again, I went out of my way to make it EXPLICITLY clear that my disagreement with your mention of the film in this thread is just my PERSONAL OPINION.
On the surface, it looks like you have a bias toward that film and you're painting it with a broad brush by labeling it simply as "a comedy."
If you think I have a "bias toward that film," you're absolutely right. I do have a bias toward it, as I consider it one of my favorite comedies of all time. I LOVE it. I rewatch it about once a year and never get tired of it.
But do I consider it a "Rom-Com?" No, I don't. Sorry, I just don't. I consider it a comedy film with a romantic subplot, but not a "Romantic Comedy."
If you look at that movie's board, it's classified as 'comedy/crime'.
Yep, and I agree with that. Seems like maybe MOST people agree with that. It's not generally considered a romantic comedy.
but apparently you find armed robbery and murder as just plain funny.
................ Seriously? OK, well then apparently YOU find armed robbery and murder both romantic AND funny.
The comedic elements of their relationship were integral to both the case involved and the film.
Yes, but their relationship wasn't the main point or plot of the movie. The fate of the two "Yutes" who were wrongly accused of murder, and Vinny's attempt to beat their case even though he's barely a lawyer, and BECOME a legit lawyer in the process, was the main point.
Marisa Tomey won an Oscar for that performance and rightfully so
Yes, I know that, and yes I agree that she deserved it. share
Doublespeak and damage control, in order to save face, in my opinion. You should have checked your overly-inflated ego at the door. "Pride goeth before destruction and haughtiness before a fall."
shareLOL. "Pride goeth," eh? OK, guy. Either respond to something I said, or "sucketh" my dick.
shareIn other words, you lost the argument, when you responded with the phony, LMAO claim to begin with. (eye-roll)
shareIt never should have been an argument to begin with. You called My Cousin Vinny a romantic comedy, I disagreed, and I said it was just my personal opinion. Thats it, and thats all it should have ever been. A guy on the internet disagreed with you. For fuck sake, deal with it.
shareNOT A ROM COM...THEY ARE AN ESTABLISHED COUPLE WHEN THE FILM STARTS...THE PLOT ISN'T ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP...YOU'RE AWFUL FEISTY LATELY...YOU OKAY?
shareWhat does being "an established couple" even have to do with it? If that's part of the criteria, then it would actually eliminate a lot of Rom-Coms.
I'm always feisty. You should know that by now.
And your reply is a deflection from the key point here. IMDb, the main movie reference site, doesn't categorize it as a rom-com either, b/c the romantic relationship is not central. IMDb doesn't list every element in a film or "cover all the bases", just the genre essentials. That's why you'll find the word "Romance" listed for actual ROM-coms. There's plenty of films that depict love interests and relationships, but that does not necessarily plop them into the Romance genre. So maybe it's you who has the bias, in your attempt to squeeze this film into a category that even IMDb doesn't. Or should IMDb change its classification system simply b/c you, personally, think it should've captured more than Crime and Comedy? But who are you to revise IMDb's classification with what you "personally consider" to be more accurate?
shareOooh, a very righteous and authoritative advocate for IMDb, the holy of holies. You're apparently unaware of the contempt for that site that exists here, since the inception of this one. You're suggesting blind obedience to whatever it designates then. What a stupid, jerk-off argument!
shareStill deflecting, huh? Or are you that obtuse? If they're so contemptible, then why did you bring up the genres that are pulled from imdb to here? You quoted their content in your weird attempt to accuse Nitro of thinking murder/robbery is funny (another deflection, like Tomei's Oscar, who cares?) Whatever people have against IMDb, I've never heard anyone rail against their genre designations. It's not that hard to figure out for IMDb or anyone else who understands what they're watching. Pounding your chest in victory against Nitro was laughable. It was YOU who deflected, obfuscated, b/c you had no answer to the essential point. And Nitro's reply was only as convoluted as your post, since he addressed all your silliness, sentence by sentence, in a good-natured way. And you couldn't answer any of it.
shareYou completely twisted my comment. I was just making a factual observation about how IMDb is often perceived here. I have seen outright hatred for it expressed since, as I said, the inception of this site. I've never done so and routinely still use it as a reference tool.
Actually, you're the one attempting to muddy the waters here and in the process, you're making yourself very obvious as a suck-up. I simply questioned why he appeared to have singled out my submission. It seemed, as I said, as if he was suggesting it didn't belong here. So, answer to what "essential point"? Your argument is just pseudo-intellectual babble.
Your observation is irrelevant to the debate -- since no one calls out imdb for any reason related to said debate. That plus "jerk-off comment!" was the total of your meaningless reply. So, more words, more deflection, flip-flopping, and no answers. Just like the rest. He stated his opinion, which is shared by me, Kowalski, and oh yeah -- a MOVIE DATABASE, from which these boards are derived, that you yourself use as a reference after just bashing it; and used when trying to stab at Nitro with an inane implication; while ignoring the more applicable implication for your movie's actual genre. Face it. You had a tantrum b/c someone dared to comment about a film you brought up. You thought you'd find romance in the genre classification by mc (via imdb), but it wasn't there, b/c it isn't a rom-com. So, you defeated no one. Your silly declarations, while never answering to a thing, should not be confused with winning, when such a tactic itself is an admission of defeat. And nothing deserves more of an eye-roll than your pretentious "Pride goeth..." when all you've done with every reply is fall deeper into a hole. Project much?
shareThis just confirms my allegation of babble on your part. You're becoming more rambling and incoherent with each response and the water is muddier than ever.
What question have I refused to answer? What central point have I eluded? This whole thing evolved out of a simple query on my part. If he had really been wanting to avoid an argument, his initial response would have been something like, "No, I'm not suggesting that, I just personally think...."
And you're just another thick-headed idiot, also looking for an argument, with your impressive 636 posts here.
Repeating the same nonsense won't make the reality go away. Playing dumb won't either.
Your "simple query" was a loaded question born of your hypersensitivity. He said "personally" from the start, but you ignored it and turned a nothing into a something. Using your logic, you rendered the OP's post as "invalid" as well. Should you be called out? The question was "The best romantic comedy of all time?" Do you think hownos's pick should be "considered invalid" b/c you think another film is actually the best of all time? Of course not. Someone gave an opinion, and you got testy over it. Then you went to the MC genre as a way to jab at him in such a weird way, but turned a blind eye to the fact that IMDb disagrees with you as well. Are they allowed to render your designation "invalid"? That's a question, which I asked already. Or are they only an authority and arbiter when they align with you? Nitro couldn't invalidate your classification, but you can invalidate imdb's classification? I asked this already too. No answers.
Everyone who has replied has brought up distinctions of a rom-com, but you've avoided answering to those until your recent reply to Kowalski. But even then, you didn't answer to the key distinction. "THE PLOT ISN'T ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP". Did you miss that one? And this one "And your reply is a deflection from the key point here. IMDb, the main movie reference site, doesn't categorize it as a rom-com either, b/c the romantic relationship is not central." Kinda quiet about that and the fact that imdb has Romance as a genre but didn't apply it to your movie. So, the preponderance of the evidence is against you.
"Two New Yorkers accused of murder in rural Alabama while on their way back to college call in the help of one of their cousins, a loudmouth lawyer with no trial experience."
Notice anything missing? Will the obvious be allowed to knock that chip off your shoulder without you blathering on and on. Of course it won't -- Pride goeth...
Actually, these long, drawn out, continued responses of yours look like "blathering on" to me. In addition to rambling and incoherent, you're now also coming across as obsessed.
Ok, I get it. You're a die-hard conformist, a sheeple. IMDb is Simple Simon. Simon says, My Cousin Vinny is not a Rom-Com. How dare I express an independent, non-conformist opinion.
Exactly the response I expected. Still no simple answers to my questions, but throw in a Straw man to deflect. IMDb is fine as a reference when you want to conjure up a silly suggestion that Nitro thinks murder is funny, but it's no good as a reference if it doesn't classify this film as a rom-com. That's brilliant. And all born of someone commenting on your precious, not-really-a-rom-com, rom-com. How dare Nitro express a personal opinion?! Only you can do that!
But no one who disagrees is following anything but the evidence in front their eyes when they watched this movie. You can have your own opinion, and you can believe that 2+2=5 as well. But reality won't bend to your whims.
Wow, you really know me better than I know myself, don't you Freud?
You've got nothing better to do than to inanely prolong an argument started by someone else, who by the way, bowed out hours ago?
So why haven't you bowed out? It's just as inane for you to keep replying, right? You have this bizarre blind spot that leaves introspection impossible. What are you doing? Desperate to get the last word, perhaps? When's that weird declaration of I win, You lose, coming? You must reply again. Go ahead. C'mon. "inanely prolong" this. You have to, right?
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