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Anyone else cutting off all ties to modern day culture and society?


Recently, I've been losing myself in a lot of retro TV shows, music, books, etc. The reason why is that it feels to me as if modern day culture and society is becoming more dehumanizing and nihilistic, to the point where more people are forgetting what it means to actually be and feel human, as well as live in an actual society where you have to share a space with others.

For example, this will be the 20th anniversary of 9/11. I'm a New Yorker who lived through that experience, and I can tell you that the culture and people were a complete 180 from what they are today. I remember walking through the streets of NYC in the weeks after and legit feeling if the entire country was united and all pulling for each other. And now it's the opposite. We went from the entire country going ape shit because almost 3,000 people die on 9/11, to the entire country not giving a fuck that 500K died from COVID.

The reason why so much has changed is social media, to be sure, but modern entertainment has been fueling nihilism and anti-humanistic values for well over a decade now. The generations that grew up being taught to get a hard-on for antisocial sociopathic characters (seeing them as sexy for being damaged or cool for being non-conformist) are now coming of age.

To me, an example of how fucked up culture has become--and how it's destroying modern day society--is that song Pumped Up Kicks. I remember hearing that song and loving it because of how romantic it sounded...only to hear the lyrics. This is a romantic-sounding song about a sociopathic kid that wants to kill people.

Another example is anime. Don't get me wrong--I do love anime but it's weird what gets pushed in this country. It's the demented stuff in Japan that gets pushed in the US, not the more wholesome fare. The worst example is Death Note, where the viewer is made to experience most of the story from the perspective of the villain, who's basically a serial killer.

Anyway, the point is that I'm pretty much done with modern entertainment and culture. I'm just going to lose myself in anything that predates 2010. It's nothing to do with age. I'm just sick of nihilism and anti-humanism and wonder if anyone else is feeling the same way.

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Very recognisable. Specificly I am feeling more and more disconnected from modern day cinema. Over the past 15 years contemporary film-making has really become a race to the bottom. Film today is about not stepping out of line creatively and to not rock the boat intellectually. Film is my most important hobby but if there would only be modern film then I'd dump that hobby as quick as I could. I am not optimistic about the future of film.

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"I am not optimistic about the future of film."

Neither am I. Every genre has been done to death, so coming up with a new concept is almost impossible. Add to this the rampant nepotism in Hollywood; any outsider, be they a director, writer or performer, has a slim chance of getting any recognition.

A few weeks ago someone here posted a link to a site that listed movies to watch for in 2021. Of the forty movies listed, half of them were either sequels or reboots. The well of ideas has run dry.

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SO?....SAME AS IT EVER WAS.

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True, it always was that way to some extent. It's just as the decades wear on, this is becoming all the more obvious and tedious.

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SOON WE WILL DIE AND THE YOUNGSTERS WON'T NOTICE OUR DEATHS OR OUR EXHAUSTION.

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Watched this very interesting documentary this morning. At the end I concluded it's a great story, which could likewise become a great Hollywood movie. After some searching, I was both amazed and disappointed to find one short Canadian film titled Shadow Trap, with plans to build a possible series from that, but I don't know what became of them.

http://www.outyonderfilms.com/dvds/chasing-shadows/


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I watched the preview in your link and agree that this would make a great movie, provided it's handled correctly. Too many historical dramas focus on the same general events. I wasn't familiar with Simon Peter Gunanoot but I like how he was able to evade the posse for 13 years. I know enough about history and the treatment of Indigenous peoples to venture a guess that the charges against him were probably fabricated.

This is something I would definitely watch.

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I don't know what you mean about "preview", unless it's a portion of the 47 minute documentary. I agree that it would take the right people to handle this project successfully. Spontaneously and intuitively, I thought of Mel Gibson and how he did Braveheart. I see a similarity in the characters; outlaws, rebels who eventually became legends. I was also unaware of Gunanoot prior to this but I think he was a fascinating character. Your speculation about the murder charges indicates you did not watch the entire documentary. I recommend that you do someday. The story is so compelling and why I see it as source material for a great movie.

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It was the video on the site you linked, Out Yonder Productions. It ran for 2:27 minutes.

Where were you able to view the 47-minute documentary?

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My mistake. Here's the entire documentary, although there seems to be a discrepancy of 2 minutes between the sites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSR__VjqtTo

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Thank you!

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You're welcome. It was gratifying to encounter someone who agrees that the story would make a great movie.

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Absolutely! I immediately thought a great cinematographer would be a must for the project.

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I agree completely. Keep those creative liberties very much in check. The actual story is compelling enough on its own. It doesn't need a lot of embellishment.

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Welcome to what it feels like to undergo a Marxist takeover.

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No. Dumb idea.

😎

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Pumped up kicks came out over 10 years ago.

I am pretty sure nihilism and anti-humanism predate 2010.

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