Nice of them to admit it after 80 years of denial and threats against locals who said they found pieces of metallic objects at a crash site before being forced to hand it over.
The former director of the secretive U.S. task force studying UFOs recently admitted that material had been attained on TV.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/former-pentagon-official-claims-government-has-exotic-materials-from-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-074017124.html
Something flying that they cannot identify. Got a chunk of it. News?
shareI've believed in UFOs since I was a child watching Unsolved Mysteries.
The question now is why is the government confirming this?
Is there intel that aliens are planning something? Are they getting us ready for an invasion?
That's scary.
From what I have uncovered they are planning to attack your house first, you should call Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith ASAP!
shareHollywood is our collective reference point in how to deal with any invasion.
Yes, because it's unlikely this wet rock crawling with angry ants would be of any use
*It's all pretty fantastical
That is a very insightful comment actually.
Hollywood and TV has primed Americans on how to think about things for generations.
What is sad is how much of that is complete BS.
I had the same questions. Apparently, there have been a number of officials who became concerned about the U.S. long policy of ignoring or ridiculing UFO information which became a national security issue. For instance, naval pilots were repeatedly encountering UFOs before their military missions in Syria which endangered them by causing a loss of focus in an already stressful situation. The Navy couldn't get our Intelligence agencies to investigate because UFOs were not taken seriously. Furthermore, nuclear missiles were being shutdown by them. UFOs routinely hovering over our military installations and flying near our pilots became a concern that needed to be addressed.
Another issue is China and Russia which are likely studying UFO technology to gain military domination.
Don't expect confirmation that they're extraterrestrial... yet. Only a trickle of information will be released.
"That's scary."
IMHO, I don't believe they're hostile since they've been around since the 40s and haven't done anything. Maybe studying us. I'm really excited about ETs (my opinion) being here and advanced science which can lead to interstellar travel.
UFO stories were INVENTED by the CIA as a way to HIDE the U-2 spy plane program from the former USSR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhv_ssKVKJw&t=2s
The CIA Created A Fake UFO In The 1950s For Spying | Leading To Project Blue Book | U-2 Spy Program
Since new UFO stories have cropped up again, my guess would be they've got another SPY program going on again, and are spreading more UFO stories around again in order to get the RUSSIANS thinking that's what they see whenever they send something over there to SPY on them again.
More likely we will find out some of our leaders are Aliens or have Aliens pulling their strings!
shareno proof they are of alien lifeform.
shareUFO or UAP only means that there is an aircraft that can't be identified. You're right that it's not synonymous with ET.
They are saying the aircraft technology is at least a century ahead of what we have on Earth.
I disagree that we don't have proof. Our government won't release the majority of information including clearer photos because they're classified. Why?
Obama said a few days ago that they have no idea what these UFOs are.
shareKing Benny: He's the man that killed your brother.
Little Caesar: (startled) They said it was pneumonia!
King Benny: Yeah...they said.
That's why they're called UNIDENTIFIED Flying Objects or UNIDENTIFIED Aerial Phenomena.
But, there is a hypothesis from many governments that they're extraterrestrial.
Wrong... UFO means that there APPEARS to be something that APPEARS to be flying on sensors.
The northern skies were UFOs once, making a UFO is actually pretty easy to do if your frame rate is low enough then even flies can show up as these tube like creatures if you film a group of people talking you can get those tube creatures popping up. It's also why all the ghost people use electronic equipment to see the ghosts that centuries before people saw with their naked eyes... because it's easier to make something appear electronically (without photoshop or anything) that isn't actually there.
The evidence has always been that UFOs and UAPs are caused by something else other than an actual flying object.
It doesn't explain the military and commercial pilots who have seen them outside their cockpit window and had their instrumentation affected.
It's not that difficult to differentiate between a deep fake video and the real thing.
Two questions:
Billions of planets. Why would there only be life on this one?
Do you believe humans would be the most intelligent beings in the entire universe or galaxy?
IMHO, I don't believe Earth or humans are particularly special, so I don't find it unthinkable that life would exist elsewhere. UFOs appeared shortly after we made a ruckus with atomic testing in the 40s. UFOs tend to appear around nuclear and military installations. Maybe they see our bats*** crazy species as a future threat in need of close monitoring as we gain knowledge about space travel.
You must be a Trump supporter to be this stupid.
The northern lights are UFOs, you can see the northern lights, you can't see it on radar because it isn't physically there, it's just an optical illusion, no one had their instrumentation affected. People who "see" a UFO only saw something that appeared to be flying and appeared to actually exist.
Who cares if extraterrestrial life exists, it's irrelevant to basic science which has proven a million times over that what you Trumptards think are actual flying objects are all optical illusions.
"The northern lights are UFOs"
Northern lights are identifiable, therefore they are not UFOs.
"no one had their instrumentation affected."
1. You lost your credibility by calling me a Trump supporter.
2. You lost more by referring to northern lights as UFOs.
3. Finally, you've completely lost it by believing your saying "nah, nah!" equates to a military pilot filing an official report complaining about their instruments being affected.
"Who cares if extraterrestrial life exists, it's irrelevant to basic science"
1. It's not irrelevant to quantum mechanics which is a path to future interstellar space travel. now, we k now it's possible and can study their technology!
2. UFOS hovering over nuclear and military facilities is a national security threat.
"are all optical illusions."
Military pilots are trained to differentiate between aircraft, optical illusions and an inexplicable object like a UFO.
You lost your credibility by being a trump supporter. Insurrectionists like you who rioted at our capital need to be brought to justice.
Since you're a trump supporter, everything else you say literally is garbage, because all trump supporters have dysfunctional brains. As you're not smart enough to vote for someone actually competent or even understand that he lost the election, how are you supposed to understand the basic meaning of what an unidentified flying object is?
The fact is, you can't. Supporting Trump has caused permanent brain damage and you literally are incapable of understanding scientific facts.
You have to realize, your entire argument is "I don't understand how the military uses the term UFO, therefore UFOs are aliens" Something only a Trump supporter could come up with. By repeatedly denying that actual UFOs are things like the northern lights you've change the Military's use of the term UFO to match one that only lunatics use (where a UFO is always an alien).
shareYou continue to identify objects. When you do that, they're not UFOs.
shareYou continue to insist that the military use UFO in a way they don't.
shareUFO = WTF was that?
shareYes, exactly. If it wasn't identified at the moment, it was a UFO. You're pushing this ex post facto rationale that if pilot went "WTF was that" then when the explanation came the military would have destroyed the fact the "WTF was that" ever happened.
That something was a UFO doesn't change once you identified it, the fact is what the military calls UFOs and what civilians call UFOs are completely different things. This is why when the military releases information on UFOs and the alien nutjobs claim "LOOK UFOS ARE ALIENS, THE GOVERNMENT IS CLAIMING ALIENS EXIST" anyone who has even a basic college education looks at you folk and thinks "can't you read the article?"
Once identified, it's no longer a UFO. 95% can be identified. It's the 5% that remain a UFO.
share"It's not that difficult to differentiate between a deep fake video and the real thing."
You're defiantly a Trumptard, you don't even know what a deep fake is and are clearly saying it to make your intelligence sound higher (or rather lower because I actually know what it is) than it actually is. What I was talking about were ways to create videos that have convinced people like you for decades that ghosts, bigfoot, and other bits of fiction (like extraterrestrial visitors) exist. All of this is basic cinematography.
A deep fake uses an artificial neural network to generate new content based on old existing content. Effectively, what you're doing is creating an association between frames of speech with what was actually spoken, and smoothing it out by having additional content (so it doesn't look like you simply cut out the frames where the guy was saying what you wanted him to say and stitched it all together.)
Haven't you seen the UFO evidence released by the Airforce? Small hard to distinguish objects that appear to dart from one point to another. You hardly need something as complex as an ANN to create dodgy video like that. In some of the cases it's clearly just a lens flare.
You believe that military pilots are too stupid to know the difference between a lens flare and a moving object outside their cockpit window. Their sensor locked onto a lens flare?
shareI believe you're not in the military and that as a trump voter you're not smart enough to understand the argument is that you're not in the military so stop insisting they use UFO to refer to aliens. They use it for ANYTHING that they do not immediately know what it is or what caused it.
shareSpace aliens to their pilot:
"Stop saying you saw two F-18s, everyone will think you're crazy."
(not my joke, but very funny.)
Not funny at all, because your joke relies on someone being so brain dead they actually voted for Trump to be funny. The military has no problem with saying the term UFO, only brain dead Trump supporters actually believe when the military says UFO the military is talking about space aliens. But what can you expect out of people who voted for the biggest crook in American History?
Space Aliens might call F-18's a UFO since they might not be familiar with our airforce... but of course a Trump supporter is so stupid that she has to insist a UFO is always a space alien.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cnn+ufo+videos+explained&refig=6f877c1d1df746d4976092af51889f12&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dcnn%2bufo%2bvideos%2bexplained%26form%3dANNTH1%26refig%3d6f877c1d1df746d4976092af51889f12&view=detail&mmscn=vwrc&mid=26BD0014550C0016EBE926BD0014550C0016EBE9&FORM=WRVORC
Retired US Navy Chief explains tech witnessed in UFO aircraft sighting
CNN · 5/18/2021 · by Cuomo Prime Time
Regardless of what these other 2 guys in this video say ...
Tonight another GUY who was on Cuomo's show on CNN a few moments ago explained why each of those videos aren't UFO's.
The triangle looking thing is part of a plane.
The camera lens is what makes the other shape jump and look like it moves around.
And the other object that looks like it's going fast is only going about 30 to 40 knots (not fast at all).
He also used 10th grade high school math to figure that out.
"Another guy" doesn't sound like credible qualifications.
shareThanks Who. Yes Mick West is the guy that was on CNN:
West has appeared in various media including CBS, the BBC, and Radio New Zealand as an expert conspiracy analyst and science communicator. He has twice been a speaker at the conference of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, and in 2020 became a fellow of the organization.
As a child he was fascinated by the paranormal, UFO's and stories of alien abductions, also believing he had psychic abilities. As he grew older, he began to realize that these phenomena weren't real, and instead, that there were rational explanations to explain them.[1] "I used to believe in all this stuff and then I stopped believing in all this stuff, and I guess just figuring out why this stuff was wrong became interesting to me."[2]
Yup, Mick turned those UFOs into IFOs in a clean minute. Has he explained the Chicago Ohare UFO incident? That was a weird one.
shareNo they didn't discuss what happened in Chicago, which this link also suggest was a WEATHER RELATED ISSUE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_O'Hare_International_Airport_UFO_sighting
The Chicago O'Hare UFO sighting occurred on November 7, 2006, around 4:15
p.m. when a total of 12 United Airlines employees and Andres, a witness from Torreon outside the airport at Chicago O'Hare International Airport, reported a UFO sighting. The Federal Aviation Administration declined to investigate the incident because the UFO was not seen on radar and called it a "weather phenomenon".
To clarify, the disc was above the air traffic control building which is why they couldn't see it. UFOs don't always show up on radar. Stealth capability or airport radar configured to track certain movement, not stationary objects.
Originally, the FAA spokesman said it was airport lights reflecting off the clouds. But, it was daytime and the lights hadn't been turned on. Then, a different spokesperson said it was a "hole-punch cloud". This can only occur at temperatures below freezing according to climatologists. The temperature at 1900 ft. above O'Hare Airport was 53 degrees F. The only other method is by evaporation of heat which could have been formed by a UFO emitting intense radiation or heat going through it.
From wikipedia's link from your article:
"Such holes are formed when the water temperature in the clouds is below freezing," and "The ice crystals can be formed by passing aircraft," In this situation, the UFO went straight up which is not possible for our aircraft.
Dr. Richard. F. Haines created NARCAP (National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena) to collect and study aviation cases involving UFOs because he was concerned about pilot safety. He has a 155-page report about the O'Hare Airport incident.
https://www.ufocasebook.com/pdf/narcapcase18.pdf
"hole-punch cloud"- page 44-54
airport radar - page 55-92 (summary 91+92)
It's odd that the FAA will acknowledge the"hole-punch cloud" and witnesses who saw that, but they don't acknowledge the same witnesses when it pertains to the UFO which made it.
Mick turned those UFOs into IFOs in a clean minute.
The BOTTOM LINE is this:
It's YOUR MIND and You are free to believe whatever you like ...
but imo,
the EVIDENCE that those IMAGES in the CNN interview are NOT UFO's definitely FAR OUTWEIGHS the other claims being made that they are.
Thanks for the name. He has no credibility from what I see.
1. No related educational background. He attended a university, but that doesn't mean he graduated. I can't find any information about a degree.
2. No professional background. He's a writer, video game programmer and entrepreneur. I do those three to a lesser degree. That doesn't make either one of us "experts" in ufology, national defense or science.
3. He has no access to classified information.
4. He has no objectivity. His latest career is based solely on debunking UFOS, therefore in order to maintain his livelihood, he needs to continue to do so.
The source is everything.
I'm reading reports of encounters by military pilots from numerous countries including the U.S.. Many have collaborative evidence like radar, equipment malfunctions at close proximity, other pilots who were scrambled to assist, ground control, civilian witnesses and even include the newly declassified information released through FOIA.
Military pilots are trained to recognize other aircraft and determine its speed, position, etc. as part of their training. They can contract ground control in order for other military jets to be scrambled which has occurred.
Foreign governments have taken UFOs more seriously than the U.S.. American commercial pilots have been reluctant to report encounters because it could ruin their career. The Navy had to change policy to encourage reporting from their pilots because silence was threatening pilot safety.
Here's a different interview with him where he demonstrates how the EFFECTS are CREATED:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsMomLDKIz4
Interview: Mick West, Identifying UFOs
You need to actually SEE the CNN VIDEO where he SHOWS you the CAMERA LENSE that CREATES that EFFECTS that you see on the VIDEO.
Because he also DEMONSTRATES for you how the EFFECT is seen on the VIDEO.
PLUS he also explains how he used 10th GRADE HIGH SCHOOL MATH to figure out the SPEED the other OBJECT is going which is NOT as fast as others claim it's going.
PLUS he also points out how INFRARED was used to CAPTURE that one IMAGE, and it also REVEALS how it has NO HEAT SOURCE, which also indicates that's a BALLOON you see.
Once you see the CNN INTERVIEW VIDEO, you'll be better able to comprehend how others have not INTERPRETED what they see CORRECTLY.
And he also POINTS OUT how NO MILITARY EXPERTS have been INTERVIEWED, and the people claiming those images are UFO's are only UFO CONSPIRACY FANATICS who also have NO EDUCATION or BACKGROUNDS like you say Mick West doesn't have.
Just a way to get more money for the military, more technology, to put down the democratic movement, or the violence that will erupt after people discover there ain't no way they are getting democracy.
shareThe U.S. is way behind other countries in taking UAPs seriously including nondemocracies like Russia and Iran. Worldwide sightings started in the 1940s.
shareYou really just like to pop off like some kind of authority.
It is so childish to pretend that you know anything in the Internet.
The Internet is for asking questions and posing hypotheses not for
pretending to be the all knowing oracle to wank a tiny ego.
On the one hand, many of the opinions and political stands you take
are in line with what I believe, on the other you do it in such as way
as to drive people away from considering those ideas which discounts
your whole presence on the Internet as philosophically incoherent.
You didn't refute what I wrote, did you? Just personal attacks.
shareYou just wrote your own uninformed opinion as if it was an actual argument ... no need to refute that. It's your opinion, based on nothing. Think what you want, you already showed you have no interest in facts. I'm not gonna waste my time with that.
share* Russia and Iran are not democracies.
* UFO sightings appear to have started in 1947.
* U.S. policy has been to ignore or ridicule U.F.O. sightings for almost 80 years which has dissuaded pilots from reporting.
What's not factual?
I love how that Elizondo guy claims that they were undetectable on radar and then quotes how many g-forces they were pulling and how fast they were going without the ability to measure neither one of those variables.
shareIf you have recorded visuals from two different points, you can calculate both position and speed vectors. It's just basic triangulation.
shareare there any verifiably time-stamped photos of such phenomena - i assume the fighter jets would be suitably stamped.
but i don't expect any of this stuff to amount to more than visual ephemera.
are there any verifiably time-stamped photos of such phenomena - i assume the fighter jets would be suitably stamped.
well, if they can't produce the timestamps in some sort of sequence (which I am positive are available in any fighter aircraft), we shouldn't be taking the allegations seriously, or the imagery provided.
shareYes that's basically what MICK WEST points out in his INTERVIEW on CNN last night, is how those UFO IMAGES were only something that the UFO enthusiast were promoting (instead of having the MILITARY or the PILOTS who captured them discussing them).
And the reason why those who captured them wouldn't discuss them is because they probably already realize that it was actually the TAIL END of a plane and NOT an ALIEN SPACE SHIP in that image. Because you also see lights FLASHING on that image the same way as they do on a JET AIRLINER in flight.
At the 3:23 TIME MARK he also talks about the PARALLEX EFFECT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVBE1L5oxCg&t=9s
UFO UAP Debunker Mick West On CNN With Chris Cuomo
Unfortunately all one can find online is this "AUDIO version" of the interview, whereas the actually seeing the VIDEO version of it would also be much more helpful in showing you what he's talking about.
Well then clearly they did not have that.
The other thing is that take a differential equations class.
Those things cannot be solve without knowing initial conditions,
and the relative positions at every measurement of the two points
you are talking about.
The problem with these style stories is that they never actually define anything. "Exotic Material" doesn't mean anything until it is fully defined. I can tell you want it to be metallic fragments or some physical object but the story doesn't say that, it says nothing because nothing was actually given as hard evidence.
Even more so, the hard part of this UFO issue is that a crashed experimental aircraft counts as a UFO... but not the type of UFO you want it to be.
A crashed experimental aircraft is NOT a UFO since it's identified.
shareBy definition, a foreign experimental aircraft is a UFO, but being a Trumptard you don't understand what a UFO is and therefore insist that all UFOs are of extraterrestrial origin. Unidentified only means we do not have a name for it yet, if China is flying a new aircraft no one has ever seen before... it's a UFO, it is an unidentified flying object. That is how the military uses the term.
Civilians and Trumptards insist that all UFOs are extraterrestrial aliens, and when the military talks about UFOs they're talking about everything except aliens. That is why the military moved on to unidentified aerial phenomena, because civilians wouldn't stop equivocating UFO with aliens. Of course that didn't change how the stupid civilians insisted that every single thing that appears to be flying must be an alien. Stupid civilians of course prefer to remain stupid and rebuke scientifically proven facts.
" a foreign experimental aircraft is a UFO"
No, a foreign experimental aircraft is identifiable, therefore it's not a UFO.
Furthermore:
"Countries do not fly experimental aircraft repeatedly in foreign airspace without informing the host country and then lie about it later."
- Generals and rest of high-level French panel from the COMETA Report.
If a foreign power like China or Russia had technology to fly under stealth at supersonic speed without a sonic boom, stop in midair and hover, and shutdown our nukes since the 1940s, don't you think they would've used that technology during the many wars since that time to defeat us or for financial profit?
The military are the ones who are suggesting they may be extraterrestrial.
No, you are the one who is suggesting that the military is so moronic that they actually believe extraterrestrial aliens are visiting this planet and thus made the term UFO just to describe it. You're suggesting that their entire shift to UAP is some government conspiracy to hide the fact Biden lost and Trump won (because no one but a trump supporter can be as stupid as you).
shareFox Mulder has been saying the same for many years now.
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