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I hate arguments like these:

White people don't get to decide what racism is.
Men don't get to decide what sexism is.
Able-bodied people don't get to decide what ableism is.
Straight people don't get to decide what homphobia is.

I've been seeing these comments come up more and more online. It implies that every alleged oppressed person can't be wrong and what ever they say about the alleged oppressor should just be accepted without question. It's the whole "if you don't agree with my opinion, you're part of the problem" argument.

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Today, it's no longer "my opinion vs your opinion" it's "me as a virtuous person vs you as an evil person". It's a way of avoiding debate that also serves as an ego defense mechanism.

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People suck.

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I think it’s more “I have an opinion and there’s no way I’m going to even give yours the time of day because people like you are all crazy.” Take this thread for example, it’s basically a whole lot of likeminded people agreeing with each other. Which is fine, people need to vent, but I don’t think that should be confused with real debate. We all know the moment someone presents an opposing opinion they will be SJW’d and Leftarded out of town which is why I believe many people don’t even bother.

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spot on

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Amen!

😎

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Men have no say over the abortion issue.

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Why not, seeing how half of it is theirs? And if you're pregnant with a girl, where is her opinion? It doesn't mean they have to force them not to do it, but they at least have an opinion.

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There was an article recently about a university student group in England that has banned white people from a racism seminar. Why? Because they are trying to be anti racist! Never mind that white people are the Indigenous of England or that excluding one group due to skin colour is racism in itself.

Just the other week there was a Leftard on this forum making fun of Melina Trump's English skills/accent. If you did the same to anyone else they would scream racism at you.

These people are like religious zealots who believe their scripture just because they are told to. They can't think for themselves which is really scary.

The best way to counter them (if at all) is to just keep throwing the truth and logic in their face. Their ideology can't handle scrutiny.

P.S Homophobia as a made up word doesn't even make sense. Homo means the same, human. Phobia means fear. I am not scared of men or humans.

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"P.S Homophobia as a made up word doesn't even make sense. Homo means the same, human. Phobia means fear. I am not scared of men or humans."

Exactly!

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Homosexualphobia is a bit of a mouthful though.

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Is it a phobia at all to question something?

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Probably not but is anyone precious about it? Just semantics. It’s been a popular term for anti-gay since the 60s. Blame the hippies. I think if a person shows dislike or prejudice towards gays they shouldn’t be surprised to be called that. It might be thrown around too much these days, I only hear it in the media or online really. Bloody internet.

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Speaking of the word Gay why were they allowed to misappropriate a word which means happy? The hippies were a joke, I agree.

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haha don’t pull me into your war on the English language bro

The hippies gave us Jimi Hendrix and marijuana and for that I say thank you hippies ✌️

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Oh yes and the Muslims gave us hummus.

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I don’t like hummus. But Muslims are ok as long as they’re not all jihaddy about it. Much like Christians and their shenanigans. But they gave us Christmas and Easter holidays. See always a silver lining.

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Just the other week there was a Leftard on this forum making fun of Melina Trump's English skills/accent. If you did the same to anyone else they would scream racism at you.


I agree. Another example is if a white person were to say that Jackie Chan is a fantastic Japanese actor. People could call them racist because he's Chinese. However if any non-white person called Hugh Jackman English, everyone would shrug it off.

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Remember the drama over Samuel L Jackson being mistaken for Lawerence Fishburne? That is racism but I used to get Pacino and DeNiro mixed up all the time, so what?

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I love Pacino in Taxi Driver. DeNiro was good in Training Day. Definitely deserved the Oscar.

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LOL!

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but I used to get Pacino and DeNiro mixed up all the time, so what?


That means you hate Italians! Burn him!

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Another thing you get is "All white people are racist/white privilege" given non white/non Christian people flock to our countries it would seem we aren't all that bad. You don't get too many white folk wanting to go live in the Middle East or Asia. Makes you wonder again who the real racists are if we were to apply PC nutter logic to non White countries and non white people.

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People only ever talk about white privilege. Never able-bodied privilege, straight privilege, American privilege and so on.

My cousin is in a wheelchair. He has a picture of himself sitting in a wheelchair as his Twitter display picture. One day he got into a back and forth with an able-bodied black woman on Twitter. She kept saying he had white privilege. Finally, he decided to turn the tables and tell her she had able-bodied privilege, which she accused him of trying to deflect. She saw his display picture and yet she felt compelled to point out a specific privilege she thought he had. It's so hard for people to realize that everyone has some form of privilege.

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Or Chinese privilege, Muslim privilege, women's privilege etc.

Speaking of white male privilege and hypocrisy of the Left. I see a lot of white male homeless sleeping on the streets. Around them are non white cleaners going about their jobs, Asians coming down from expensive apartments. That white privilege is a real treat.

As per your friend in the wheel chair I saw a news story a while back on soldiers who have lost limbs in battle. All the fluff footage showed non white soldiers, female soldiers etc Get to the actual soldiers who have suffered and the hospital ward was full of White male soldiers.

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I always laugh how people are completely fine with open borders and think that illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay, and yet they complain about white people invading native land hundreds of years ago.

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They are all so full of it it's not funny anymore. Look at South Africa the whites are routinely murdered and raped on their farms and that is all good because they are white. No one cares.

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People are saying they are finally getting what they deserve because of apartheid.

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A lot of the White Africans have gone to Russia. Here is the amusing part they are called "Boers" which means Farmer. They are some of the best farmers in the world. The Blacks can't grow anything so Russia gets great farmers and South Africa gets to import food.

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Look at the history of Zimbabwe.

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Exactly. When the white people leave the place goes to shit.

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Things are never just that simple. The story is a little more complicated than that

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Not really. At its most basic core the story tends to be simple. Some people just get upset when the facts clash with what has been drummed into them.

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I get where you're coming from. Imo, definitions generally maintain their integrity no matter what the race, sex or class of the person facing prejudice. In other words, men can be treated with sexism, white people can be racially discriminated against, etc. These arguments are often just an easy and lazy way to silence people when openly discussing issues would help us more than not discussing them at all.

But, on the other side of that, I do see the complexity behind such arguments.

For example, white people using the n-word just because they want to use it and are technically allowed to doesn't mean they should. Also, I don't like when people who don't even know the basic tenets of feminism or speak to feminists make constant throwaway comments like "those silly feminists think a, b and c" or "feminists are always doing x, y and z." So I'm pretty sure I've said something along the lines of "learn the definition of feminism before you speak for feminists."

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white people using the n-word just because they want to use it and are technically allowed to doesn't mean they should.


I agree, but the beauty of allowing them to think that is that you can call them out on their ignorance afterward.

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it is indeed becoming more & more prevalent, & i think it can be mainly attributed to the rise of intersectional thinking among the smart people of our world. this belief that you need to subdivide people by race & sex & every other attribute to determine where you sit in the hierarchy of privilege has become the default position on campus, & i'd say it's quite a cancerous way of thinking.

it matters less & less what the facts are, whether you've thought through your position & are well reasoned, & more and more what counts is your victimhood status.

it seems like a pure path to madness to me, but no one asked me.

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I don't mind an intersectional way of thinking because it can make sense, but when you discredit someone's opinion based on whatever demographic they fall into just seems like you're trying to silence a differing opinion. Another problem, as you said, is when the play competition of oppression like if you're Asian, you can't complain about racism as much as a black person can because of slavery. It makes no sense to me. Everyone experiences things differently.

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Another good conversation killer is "First world problems".

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Remember: if other people are experiencing worse, you can't complain about it. I guess I can't complain about that pneumonia I got a few months ago because lung cancer kills more.

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Breathing people don't get to decide what "dead" is.

SJW is a disease.

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