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Your thoughts on "pride month"


I notice it's becoming a mainstream thing in California.

Shops making pride month merchandise like special t-shirts etc.

Should it be?

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I'm straight and I have no problem with it.

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It's awesome!

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I don't care at all.

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it doesn't bother me or annoy me, & if it did it would be easy enough to ignore.

but it does feel a bit like gilding the lily at this point. most people are quite open to gays these days, and even among those who aren't, there's a predominantly libertarian attitude as far as i can tell. it feels to me that having these lavish displays, if they're meant to increase visibility & acceptance, is no longer really necessary.

as an aside, i noticed an interesting statistic the other day. we often hear, or at least i think i often hear, people of the gay/queer/trans population say that there's still a need for representation in media, that the culture doesn't reflect their presence. but when you actually drill down into the actual stats of how many people are in same sex relationships, the numbers are small, to the extent they are almost a rounding error.

you definitely get different numbers if you ask people on surveys if they are gay or bi. in canada, about 5% did in a 2012 survey, & younger people reported at a rate of 11%.

but if you actually look at the stats of how many couples are actually same sex, the number is less than 1% according to the 2016 canadian census.

now it's possible that some gay people still won't report on a census that they are in a same sex relationship, though i don't know why they would be willing to say they are gay/bi to a survey taker but not to a census taker.

but i think it's very instructive to not just look at what people say, but how they actually live.

and i certainly don't mean anything pissy or disdainful to gay/bi/queer folks.
i simply think that, if anything, given the actual seeming size of their population, they are likely over-represented in our culture, not under represented.

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Yes, it’s moving from “acceptance” to “declare that we are normal or you’re committing a hate crime.”

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It's called "acting out" and indeed your assessment is correct.

It's also generally counterproductive to their perceived intent, serving to flout, inflame, and arouse the ire of those of our society who are wired for normie behavior.

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“we often hear, or at least i think i often hear, people of the gay/queer/trans population say that there's still a need for representation in media, that the culture doesn't reflect their presence.”

I’m wondering if popular media then should reflect the exact spectrum of race, sex, sexual orientation, religion or whatever. Is popular media supposed to be an exact reflection to include all these things or what the public wants to consume?

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well that's certainly not what i want.
& i think the last thing anyone ought to hope for is some kind of cultural ombudsman going through all of our movies & shows to make sure each little intersectional box is checked off in appropriate percentages.

all i'm trying to say, & i'm probably doing this rather clumsily, is point out that it seems to me that gay/bi people as a group are likely over-represented rather than under...

i don't have stats on that. i haven't drilled down & looked at what % of movies have those themes, have gay/bi characters. but it feels like a lot do.

and when we look at the actual stats that show how many couples are actually same sex & see that the number seems to be a bit under 1%, it seems to me that population actually punches well above its weight in its cultural impact.

& good for them, i suppose. i'm certainly not out to say 'less of that please.' people can watch whatever they want to, & if they can sell tickets & get eyes on tv shows featuring those types of stories, then all the power to them. i'm all for letting the free market decide such things.

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another little aside: i found this page yesterday that has an interactive graph detailing the population density of same sex couples across the u.s.

it shows that, even in the most progressive states, the % of couples who are same sex is below 1%. in california, there are 7.8 ss couples per 1k households, or 0.78%.

i don't mean to sound obsessed over such things. i'm not that invested in finding out how many guys are going to town on some hot cock at any given moment, lol. i'm just genuinely interested & surprised that the rate is what it is.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/visualization/lgbt-stats/?topic=SS&area=55#density

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I’m the same. When I research something I love hard stats.

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Pride celebrations are a blast! At least the ones I've been too.

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We have a huge one here in Toronto. I have never attended and it creates a traffic nightmare.

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You also have amayor who kowtows to tranny strippers at childrens' events!

https://www.reddit.com/r/metacanada/comments/bo4ek6/wtf_john_tory/

Rather sickening to do in front of children, isn't it?

What the Hell has happened to your nation?

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I would not take children to one of these parades.

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Yet your Mayor's constituents did, what a great show for young eyes, eh?

This guy's as messed up as Ford was, on the other end of the spectrum.

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Don't care and neither should anyone else who isn't LGBT.

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LGBT is sooooo last decade. Don't you realise it's now LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBA. Do keep up.

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Hells bells, DisneyWorld in Florida has been doing pride month for years. There have been complaints from straight families who would have changed their plans if they had known. I have a feeling it’s due to some being so damn flamboyant it hits you right in the face!

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I don't get it.

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