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How Does One Avoid Ridicule?


It seems everywhere you go someone is prepared to pull others down, usually for nothing more than their identity.

It's now getting to the point where men are ridiculed for being overweight and out-of-shape, and men are ridiculed for being super-fit 'gym bunnies' who take pride in their physique.

You can't win. If you don't take care of your appearance, you're a slobby neckbeard; if you do take care of your appearance, you're a vain poseur.

Cons are torn down for being bigots, whilst libs are also torn down for being bigots, but with the added burden of also being hypocrites and elitist snobs. And if you're not an open racist or misogynist, people will still question your intentions anyway, and assume you're simply a liar and better at hiding your bigotry.

So, like I say, how does one avoid being subject to ridicule and censure?

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Never fart on the train the morning after a curry.

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Or in the car!

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Out the sunroof only ๐Ÿ‘

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You cannot avoid it but you can teach yourself not to care. The old stoics were surprisingly occupied with this particular subject. The brilliant professor William B Irvine has written an entire book about this, called "A Slap in the Face" and it relies heavily on stoic wisdom.

Stoic philosophy is generally extremely beneficial. It has made my life so much easier!

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people poke fun at others as a form of self entertainment think comedy roasts, it is not a big deal.

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I like Comedy Roasts, but the thing with those is that the people involved (should) know what they're setting themselves up for.

I like humour. I don't have a problem with being mocked by friends. I can see my own flaws and absurdities. What I resent is unsolicited cruelty and rudeness.

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too much sensitivity is unnecessary

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But too little sensitivity can be hazardous. How do you know when you have the right balance?

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The only way I know is to pay close attention to how you feel -- your intuition is your best guide.

If you're feeling bumped around too much, time to dial back the sensitivity. If you're feeling too indifferent and disconnected from people you want to connect with, dial it back up.

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I'm sorry to tell you this, but the only way is to not post. The internet is a cruel world.

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I'm not talking about posting on social media. I don't especially care what people say about me on such forums, because I arguably solicit it. If I say something objectionable here, I should be prepared for whatever blowback I receive. That's all very fine and good, and I'm frankly fed-up with snowflakes, of any political and ideological sympathies, who can't take online criticism.

No, the type of ridicule I'm referring to is the unsolicited attacks you get in the press and pop culture/news sites, generalising about certain demographics, often for their identity, but also for their choices, whether it's because a person is overweight and slovenly, or spends 'too much time' at the gym, or they're a vegan, or they're single, or they have kids, or they don't have kids, etcetera. We're all too quick to judge people instead of just letting people be.

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"We're all too quick to judge people instead of just letting people be."

Exactly right, and ironically this includes the people you're talking about who are doing the ridicule, which isn't always easy to do. Doesn't mean you can't voice your objection, just not from the position of firing back in kind.

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Have I 'fired back in kind'?

However, I tend to think that if a person takes it upon themselves to be rude and nasty to another, they arguably bring similar abuse upon themselves. Trump does this all the time. He mocks people on account of their gender, their race, their ethnicity, their disability, and their weight. This, he cannot complain when others respond with similar levels of cruelty.

But many people don't bring such bullying and rudeness upon themselves, such as the people Trump targets.

If we all just treated each other with kindness and respect to begin with, wouldn't we have a better world? Or is that just a little too easy for people?

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Oh, no, I wasn't saying you were firing back in kind. I was speaking entirely generally.

If someone's rude and nasty to others, chances are good they'll receive that back, and sometimes it might even be escalated. Then the first person too will escalate, and so on, until there's out and out war. That's just the way that dynamic works. And that first person, Trump in your example, will absolutely complain when he's on the receiving end of that same treatment. That's the way some people are. It's usually, if not always, a result of being damaged. (That's a reason, not to be confused with an excuse.)

The thing is, the only person whose behaviour we can control is our own. That includes our responses to the types of people you're talking about.

Of course it would be a better world if everyone were kind, respectful, compassionate, and all of the other wonderful qualities humans are capable of. Much, much better! But unfortunately there always have been and always will be bullies, rude and disrespectful people. It's how we respond to it that matters, and is all we can do anyway.

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Sure, and I appreciate all of that, but for some of us with low self-esteem, we judge how we're doing in life, and assess how our actions are, by the way others respond.

After all, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

It's not enough for me to believe I am anti-racist, anti-sexist, a good person, and so on, if others perceive me as something else.

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Ignore it! If you feel good about yourself and your accomplishments you have no problem.

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That's the problem, I don't feel good about my accomplishments, although I do believe I am a good person.

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Just keep moving on, and like I said ignore it. Nobody's perfect. (My favorite line at the end of Some Like It Hot, the movie)

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What does that have to do with avoiding ridicule?

Or does "I don't feel good about my accomplishments" really mean "I don't like what others think of my accomplishments"?

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Nothing, but slimone said that as long as youโ€™re proud of your achievements, it shouldn't matter whether you're ridiculed or not.

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But you said "That's the problem,"

So you only worry about avoiding ridicule if you don't feel good about your accomplishments?



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You cant stop other people's reactions. You should just stop giving a f*ck. Your friends and family know you and love you and that is all that matters ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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