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If you are against ANY gun reform


you are a piece of shit. You value your ability to own certain kinds of weapons over innocent lives.

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Please define a policy that would have stopped the shooting. Disarming citizens is fucking stupid. A killer is going to kill with whatever they can find.

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They can't....lol

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Countries with less guns and/or more strict laws don't have this problem. That's a fact.

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Yeah, but its a poor comparison because its not a protected right in other countries, so they can basically pass any law they want. The question is, how can we stop these kind of shootings here in the United States, where the are 400 million privately owned firearms. I know hardening schools isn't a popular opinion, but those 400 million guns aren't just going to disapear, so why don't we do this? I'm not saying we should turn schools into prisons, but instead I'm looking at the type of security courthouses have, or airports, or any Federal building for that matter. We need to at least make an effort to protect these kids.

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It's not a comparison, it's a statement of fact. We're the only first world country with this problem. Gee, I wonder why?

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Sure, but we can't have laws like other first world countries because gun ownership is a protected right here, so what do we do instead? Nothing or make it a priority to protect our schools???

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The only thing that stops this is limiting access to the types of guns average citizens can own.

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Easier said than done as its a protected right. DC tried to ban handguns over a decade ago and it went all the way to the Supreme Court where they ruled it Unconstitutional, as it is a "common use firearm."

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That's great. Their governments can also enslave them at anytime and they can't fight back.

No thanks.

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Slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy and has no merit.

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They can literally do it....multiple countries put their own citizens into interment camps over a cold with 0.02% mortality rate of 80 year olds. Then, when some escaped, they shut down the city to manhunt them.

Slippery slope, fuck off...it's already happening. You are one of the fakest people on this board.

What do you even stand for?

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https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/13/ron-johnson/johnson-falsely-says-unvaccinated-people-around-wo/

You should look up what the words "internment camp" actually means.

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Total deflection. You're a fraud.

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Guns didn't make the kid a lunatic.

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No, but they allow him to kill 19 kids in a matter of minutes.

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So did an unlocked door and yet no one is calling for schools to lock doors.

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Kid also apparently stole grandparents' car and drove (and crashed) it without a license...which is illegal...so those laws didn't work.

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No illegal activity has ever been stopped by banning it, makes one wonder why we bother, follow the money.

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You could prop the door open and fucking invite him in, he can't kill that many people without a gun. Sit down, you fool.

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Guns aren't going away yafi, we have locks for a reason.

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"Guns aren't going away"

Neither is this pesky shooting problem we have.

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But locks are here to stay too ;)

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I work at an elementary school near where this happened. Yesterday I got up and for 24 hours I went over in my mind all the precedures we've learned during an active shooter situation. I looked at pictures of this schools gates, which are 4 foot fences to make myself feel better. Ours are 8 foot high. I thought about the fact that my classroom is at the back of the school, and that I would be safer than the 1st graders at the front. Thats what its like to work in a school today.

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Truth is if you need an automatic rifle to go hunting then you're a terrible shot.

I understand guns as tools for farmers and recreational hunters and such but the handgun culture of inner city "I'll shoot you before you shoot me!" is a bit lame.

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No one owns automatic rifles except for rich gun collectors and they have to be made before 1986. Basically, there is a very finite amount in circulation and you need to have very deep pockets to afford one, IF you can even find someone to sell you one.

And I agree handgun culture in the inner city is where most of our abhorrent gun statistics come from because they are mostly illegally obtained. Owning one legally however by a law abiding citizen, I see nothing wrong with that.

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Average citizens don't need AR-15s or handguns that can hold 15 rounds. traditional hunting rifles, shotguns, and revolvers are perfectly fine for recreational hunters and home defense.

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2a is not for hunting. Every time a nation eliminates guns elimination of rights always follows. Why do you think this is the hill to die on? also: do you genuinely feel so ultimately informed and wise that you know better than everyone else? Why not take your place as one of many rather than demanding to be the one that is heard? both above you and below you geographically are countries that don't allow guns- why not just move instead of attempt to remove the things that make this land different?

is everyone that disagrees with you a 'piece of shit'? Have you ever considered that you might be wrong?

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Yes, because if you don't have an AR to defend your trailer park, President Biden will send an armored division to over run you guys.

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Is that your response in full then? No honesty just insults? and you intend to change minds here? Or are you really a conservative attempting to prove that the left is morally bereft and out of ideas once the surface is scratched?

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Do you honestly and actually believe that minds are changed by the bullshit on this forum?

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After the left released violent mobs on the country to burn down cities and destroy American lives, they lost the gun debate. No-one will trust them after they saw what they are fomenting.

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OP just wants people to be defenseless and slaughtered, very typical of Leftists..

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We all no gun reform is taxing them till only the rich can have one.

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I did not "no" that.

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You ask for ignorant Democrat dumbass I give you Kuatorises.

Stop standing on the bodies of dead children to promote the Democrat party platform. You scum kill a million kids a year because they’re “an inconvenience”.

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A fetus is not a "kid."

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Do you people tell yourselves things like this to feel better about abortion? That it isn't a person? Nonsense. Just say you're ok with killing someone under circumstances: similar to euthanasia, death penalty, etc.

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You stupid fucks don't give a fuck what happens after the birth happens and the fetus turns into a baby.

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I've been an Independent since 2004 and trash liberal stances on many issues, abortion, for example: https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/6272b3067e5370402b82d5c4/Why-would-you-be-happy-about-an-abortion

Great argument otherwise.

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