Biden will go to HELL for what he has done - Politics Discussion

[–] degray9 (1126) 3 years ago

Not like the US ever cared about Afghan people anyway.

reply

[–] zaq123 (2389) 3 years ago

Most would be better US citizens than the average Democrat.

reply

[–] Gd5150 (11771) 3 years ago

The one desperately trying to get out of that hell hole certainly would.

Doubt they’d spend their lives looking to be triggered screaming reeeeee.

reply

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

Oh, I've got to her this. What was the "real reasons" we were there? Please say oil...

reply

[–] degray9 (1126) 3 years ago

Nah, billion dollar weapons contracts… possibly opium.

reply

[–] LokiVariant264 (505) 3 years ago

both. as well as oil and rare minerals. bush trying to make a name for himself and act tough. its multifaceted but what you said is certainly one big aspect

reply

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Afghanistan doesn't have oil you nincompoop. They have minerals, lithium and poppy fields but no oil

Way to show once again how little you know

reply

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 3 years ago

With hydrocarbon-rich Iran and Turkmenistan to its west, Afghanistan harbours around 1.6 billion barrels of crude oil, 16 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and another 500 million barrels of natural gas liquids.

That's according to the 2019 Afghan report, which cited a joint U.S.-Afghan assessment, and implies a value of $107 billion for the crude oil alone at current market prices.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/what-are-afghanistans-untapped-minerals-resources-2021-08-19/

reply

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 3 years ago

100%.

#1 reason: Lockheed Martin and Raytheon
#2 reason: Natural resources
#3 reason: Getting rid of the Taliban
#4 reason: The Afghan people

reply

[–] degray9 (1126) 3 years ago

The irony is that we could have gotten rid of the Taliban back in the 90s if we had supported the right people. Ahmad Shah Massoud was the commander who defeated the Soviets and was waging war against the Taliban, but was assassinated by them mere days before 9/11.

reply

[–] Filmtenk2 (4064) 3 years ago

Eh. They did it to themselves mostly.

reply

[–] zaq123 (2389) 3 years ago

Rationalize idiocy much?

reply

[–] Filmtenk2 (4064) 3 years ago

I mean, besides our initial fuckery. We broke it, didn't fix it, now we're giving up. Biden could have handled this better. But at least now in a few years we won't give a shit anymore and will be better off.

reply

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

Save your fake outrage for a more believable cause. You know you wanted the troops gone. "America first" right? They're gone now. You're only complaining because a Dem did it.

reply

[–] zaq123 (2389) 3 years ago

Listen (if you dare) to Ben Shapiro's podcast today. If it's like the first hour of his radio show he will explain what a complete moron Biden is.

I know...you won't.

reply

[–] LokiVariant264 (505) 3 years ago

yes ben "the Palestinians just want to destroy and live in poverty. Israelites build" Shapiro. did you actually fall for his schtick because he talks fast so you assumed he was intelligent?

Did he show deep insight when he said "if water levels rise people who own these homes can just sell them"

reply

[–] zaq123 (2389) 3 years ago

He doesn't tell one lie. All he does is use liberal media sources to tear the Democrats to shreds everyday.

Palestinian (leadership) do want to destroy and for their people to live in poverty. are you blind?

I dare you to listen to him but you won't, you're afraid to.

https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chtbl.com/track/8G441/traffic.megaphone.fm/WWO8324222307.mp3?updated=1629138176

https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chtbl.com/track/8G441/traffic.megaphone.fm/WWO1157853572.mp3?updated=1629221898

reply

[–] LokiVariant264 (505) 3 years ago

.... are you serious... I dont think theres anyone in media or a politician who "hasnt told one lie"

this is how I know you are a partisan extremist. You won't even recognize objective reality (especially that ben has been caught lying) to push your narrative.

amazing how you dont even know the quote! and couldn't be bothered to spend 1 minute researching it. he said "Israelies like to build.Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage."

nothing mentioned about Palestinian leadership.

I have listened to him. I am constantly flabbergasted at the feelings and emption based arguments he makes ignoring facts despite his famous quote.

No one is afraid of ben Shapiro..... hes an intellectual lightweight who is popular because partisan fans like you would rather push your narrative than admit facts

reply

[–] zaq123 (2389) 3 years ago

Go ahead and listen to the two episodes I linked to and point out any lies.

reply

[–] LokiVariant264 (505) 3 years ago

I listed a lie he told already. you instead reinterpreted it to suit your made-up narrative.

lie told. lie confirmed. again I am amazed by someone being so politically extreme, they will deny factual reality infront of them to "defend the ir team"

ill post it again since you are now lying, like Shapiro

"Israelies like to build.Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage."

its shocking but Arabs are also human beings.. they also build things...

racist lie told. racist lie called out. you are wrong

reply

[–] zaq123 (2389) 3 years ago

There are a lot of lies out there. How do I know he said that?Palestinians (who were allies of the Nazis) use their children as human shields because the know the liberal media love to show dead children and blame Israel. You can't deny Israel likes to build things.

reply

[–] LokiVariant264 (505) 3 years ago

because it takes two seconds to google it... it was a tweet that is still up.

I gave you his words verbatim and if you copy and paste it in google its the first link. on twitter.com titled "Ben Shapiro on Twitter: "Israelis like to build. Arabs like to..."

Jesus do I need to come to your house and google things for you? you need your hand held?

notice how you have COMPLETELY abandoned to go on a tangent about Palestinians and human shields?

thats the trademark of somone who lost.

step one: dont address the persons point
stop two: change the topic

"You can't deny Israel likes to build things."

HUMANS like to build things. it was racist dehumanizing nonsense and lies by Shapiro. which you said he never does.

Have you seen some of the construction and engineering in the wealthier Arab countries??

in summation. nice attempt to derail. im smarter than you it won't work. retract your lie. thank you

reply

[–] ItsGood2BeRight (3879) 3 years ago

I saw it earlier today. Ben is brilliant at what he does.

reply

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

So wanting out of Afghanistan means liking our people being stuck there and 83 billion $ in equipment seized by the Taliban? LOL ok bub

reply

[–] Padeen (6459) 3 years ago

Did you want us to stay forever? The military we trained literally dropped their weapons and refused to fight. After 20 years, Afghanistan should be fully capable of handling the Taliban, but they have proved to be incompetent.

reply

[–] Filmtenk2 (4064) 3 years ago

Like, no one should be forced to die for someone else's plan, even if it's a good plan..

reply

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

It's in fashion to criticize our government. Virtually EVERYONE wanted us to leave for years. So, we left. And they still complain. Humanity has turned into a mob that is never pleased. Authority is wrong all the time, even when 5hey end up doing what the mob demands.

reply

[–] moviechatterer (15787) 3 years ago

"Humanity has turned into a mob that is never pleased"

True dat , its down to everyone being awarded an anonymous voice on the internet.

People used to say:
"You can please some of the people all of the time,
and all of the people some od the time,
but you cant please all of the people all of the time"

I think it needs up dating with something like :
"and you'll be damn lucky to please any of the whiny armchair experts , and if you do it'll be at the expense of redoubled wrath from the keyboard warriors on the other side"

reply

[–] Gd5150 (11771) 3 years ago

Any surprise this asshat is trying rationalize this atrocity. Keep tying yourself into knots lemming.

reply

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

When Trump was President, you wanted the troops out and you fucking know it.

reply

[–] Gd5150 (11771) 3 years ago

Wanting the troops out and abandoning 100K Afghan allies and billions in weapons was not part of the plan.

That’s on Biden and the DNC who’s calling the shots for that vegetable.

reply

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

I'm not sure you can realistically call leaving after 20 years "abandoning" something/someone.

reply

[–] chilone (17913) 3 years ago

So when should we leave South Korea and Europe?

reply

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

What point do you think you made here?

reply

[–] chilone (17913) 3 years ago

That's not an answer.

reply

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

Because I don't know what you're talking about.

reply

[–] chilone (17913) 3 years ago

My question was very easy to comprehend.

reply

[–] TexasJack (12516) 3 years ago

"abandoning 100K Afghan allies"

It's far worse than that -- they are going to bring them here.

reply

[–] Gd5150 (11771) 3 years ago

This wasn’t Biden. He’s a fucking vegetable. Our country is being run by the heads of the DNC. They along with the pentagon made this happen and they knew this would happen.

At this point it’s going to be very difficult to get anyone to join the military unless it’s to go after the the enemy of our country. Our government.

reply

[–] LokiVariant264 (505) 3 years ago

its going to be very difficult to get anyone to join the military because.... the DNC and pentagon control everything because they did what everyone has wanted them to do (and even trump said he'd do) and got out of a country so weak that after 20 years of training and arming couldn't even put up a decent fight?

what a succinct a logically flowing argument. I for one am convinced!!

reply

[–] ItsGood2BeRight (3879) 3 years ago

I'm with you but if you think pulling our troops out of Afghanistan is the worst thing he has done you need to do a little more research. He had a one way ticket to hell a long time ago.

reply

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14486) 3 years ago

He's already going to hell for what he did with Saigon in '75. This is just another nail in his coffin.

reply

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

“Getting out of Afghanistan is a wonderful and positive thing to do. I planned to withdraw on May 1.”

Donald Trump - April 18, 2021

reply

[–] zaq123 (2389) 3 years ago

Yeah MAY 1. Not Sept 11.

Big difference and Trump ACTUALLY HAD A PLAN. The idiots in the WH now put ZERO thought into any of it.

reply

[–] snepts (11123) 3 years ago

Anyone who says rump had any "plans" is hopelessly in love with his sorry ass. A more incompetent and boorish dolt I cannot imagine.

reply

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Oh really? Do enlighten us on THE PLAN he ACTUALLY HAD. And while you’re at it perhaps explain why he has since deleted that statement from his website and is now publicly saying that Biden should resign in disgrace because of the withdrawal and, get this, the surge in COVID, you know that pandemic he himself constantly downplayed and told us all would magically disappear by June 2020.

Trump is counting on his followers being so blindly devoted that they will forget or ignore the farce he created while in office, to the point that he will treat them like idiots who don’t have the mental capacity to recognise blatant hypocrisy when it’s shoved down their throats. Good for you for proving him correct.

reply

[–] zaq123 (2389) 3 years ago

He would have MOVED AMERICANS AND FRIENDLY AFGHANS OUT FIRST AND HE WOULD HAVE KEPT THE AIRBASE OPEN YOU FUCKING SHIT FOR BRAINS MORON.

Good God it's like Biden's senility is going viral.

And let's face it he probably would have kept postponing it which would have been better than what your Pres. Alzheimers has done.

reply

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Ooh touched a nerve did I zaq with a Q? No need for the bad language kiddo 😊

And Biden is not my president, for your information. He’s all yours 🤗

reply

[–] Chewie4 (24) 3 years ago

I recall quite clearly that Trump abandoned our allies, the Kurds, quite abruptly, despite knowing that they would be decimated by Turkey.

reply

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 3 years ago

You don't care about Americans in Afghanistan. Your OP went straight to the well of bellyaching over *poor and innocent* Afghans.

Of course Trump would've postponed it. Indefinitely. He was willing to go with the lie as long as Lockheed Martin and Boeing told him to.

reply