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Forced equality doesn't work.


I remember always feeling awkward as a kid when I was given a "spot on the team" when I didn't deserve it. Especially at the expense of someone I knew damn well was better than me. Do blacks ever feel awkward or embarrassed when they're given handouts when there's someone more qualified being denied.

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Obviously, you don't appear to feel awkward or embarrassed when you're given white-skinned privilege when there's someone more qualified being denied.

BTW, you may want to pm RandallGraves for further information about moviechat's local chapter of the KKK meetings he usually conducts. Arrive on time with your pointy hat.

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White-skinned privilege? I'm Hispanic dude, and I don't think they'd take me in their chapter. I thought my question was legit btw.

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IT WASNT...IT WAS...GROSS.

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Your ass is gross Kowalski, go wipe it.

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Poor dog! Oh well, at least he gets a lot of peanut butter.

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VEGEMITE*


FROM DOWN UNDER TO DOWN UNDER.🙂

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I'd love to continue this conversation, but I have to go to work. Now make sure you clean your Mom's basement Kowalski.

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Hey don't eat too many of those things. You have to stay under 300lbs if you wanna live another 5 years.

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6'6" ABOUT 200 POUNDS...I WAS FAT YOUNGER IN LIFE...THESE ARE MY IN SHAPE YEARS.

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That why you live on the computer

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That's slot of porn

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Porn time

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🙄SURE SEEMS TO LIGHT YOU UP.

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Are we friends now?

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I NEVER THOUGHT OTHERWISE.🙂

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I'm glad you feel the same way

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I won

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LMAO

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"THESE ARE MY IN SHAPE YEARS."

Hahahahaha

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ITS TRUE...MY TEENS AND 20S I WAS QUITE LARGE...IM PRETTY SLIM AND MUSCULAR NOW...WHY IS THAT FUNNY?🤔

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A white Hispanic, no doubt.

Wait a few years and you'll be fully accepted into the white race as were previous nonmembers like the Irish and Italians.

In the meantime, continue to make anonymous racist comments and enjoy your white-skinned privilege.

BTW, you don't get a pass for being Hispanic. Your ancestors likely killed the Indigenous populations and enslaved Africans. Raping their women so that you may be a little mixed doesn't give you a free-to-be-racist pass.

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In answer to your retarded question since you don't read books:

Blacks had to always fight white racism and white supremacy for any type of opportunity. For instance, the Civil War ended slavery. Marches, legislation and lawsuits ended Jim Crow laws. Racist whites still hated blacks, but "forced equality" prevented racist whites from acting on that hatred by ending slavery and legalized segregation.

The double problem of more subtle forms of segregation and the lingering affects of 400 years of racism remain and have not been addressed. White supremacy and racism continue in every segment of American society.

Racist whites cannot be forced to like blacks, but can be forced to stop discrimination which creates opportunities.

The Civil Rights movement began when college-educated blacks were being denied jobs in which they were qualified since entire professions were forbidden to them.

When I was a kid, ALL news commentators were white men. A class-action suit forced the three networks to stop discrimination. One year later, I saw the first black and women news commentators. Turn on news now and you can see the result of the lawsuit which allowed qualified blacks, women, Asians, and Hispanics to work as news commentators. The same was repeated in other jobs, housing, banking, education, etc.

But, there is plenty of work left since racism and its ongoing legacy continue.

You are a victim of a white supremacist legacy which caused you to make a stupidly racist post. You believe the lie that racism no longer exists. A man who traveled miles to kill Hispanics in a Walmart and the forced child abuse at the border by the former administration should have enlightened you. The racism against blacks is much more intense than what Hispanics have faced in the U.S..

Like I wrote, in a few years you can be accepted into the white race while blacks will continue to be vilified.

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FULL BLOODED RACIST BAG OF SHIT

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Everything I wrote is true.

Your juvenile temper tantrum doesn't change that.

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The place for you is the Proud Boys - that's where all the Mexican and Black "white supremacists" gather. Double-plus-good if you're a homo cuz they have patches with "My Little Pony" and "Strawberry Shortcake" for their body armor...

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A few tokens in a white supremacist group doesn't alter what they are.

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You're right of course. They're just a bunch of guys who liked to play with Barbies when they were boys and their dads smacked the shit out of them. And now we all have to suffer for it.

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LOL ... these troll posts are really obnoxious, and Moviechat's acceptance of them is pretty revolting. I would not want my kid coming here to discuss movies, this site is pretty sad.

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ITS A SHAME...MY DAUGHTER IS DYING TO PARTICIPATE HERE...BUT I DONT EVEN LIKE READING SOME OF THIS SHIT...LET ALONE KNOW SHE IS TOO.

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There needs to be some kind of regulation of these sites.

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"ZOMG speech I don't like!!.save me mods!!!!!! I need a safe space!!!" - TrentnQuaratino

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Not every flush or the sewer that comes out of your mouth can be justified as speech. It's true. It's important. We will either solve this or the country will be turned into a toxic septic tank while sicko lunatics rave about their freedom.

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Toxic lunatics like you have done enough to turn this country into a flaming sewer pit. See any major blue city where BLM and AntiFA have been allowed to riot

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There's 19,495 cities in the US. Just how many are you claiming there are riots in. There are reason there are riots, and most of it traced back to Republican policies, some came about because Democrats lost their way and thought they had to back those Republican policies, like Clinton and Obama.

Like claiming law and order meant shooting black people, or economic growth came about by screwing American workers, all policies I assume you support.

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And you assume wrong (imagine my shock)

Also was LBJ a Republican? Don't think so

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You live in your own world ... maybe better described as hell. You get to share it with all the rest of us here in whatever way your want with no responsibility to be honest or tell the truth, it is clear you bounce from one subject to the next cherry picking fact and fiction, that I personally think you do not compute. Now you mention LBJ totally out of context, planning to drop more of your conservative fairy tales on us ... so tell me, what does LBJ have to do with anything?

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There are reason there are riots, and most of it traced back to Republican policies,


You dont remember what you type do you? LBJ is responsible for most blacks living in poverty or don't you know his policies. So much for not computing dickhead

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Why do I even think there is a small chance of a sane answer from you! LOL.

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I gave one, you typed "why do I even thing"

Oh yes you're so sane LOL

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"LBJ is responsible for most blacks living in poverty"

You're saying blacks were rich before LBJ. Link?

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I'm still waiting for your response. In the meantime, I'll add that blacks worked for 300 years without a salary and then faced 100 more years of Jim Crow laws which prevented blacks from getting anything but low-paying jobs.

That's what caused poverty!

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Maybe look up more about what LBJs war on poverty did to black communities idiot

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What was the salary of blacks during 300 years of slavery?

BTW, poverty was vastly decreased throughout the U.S. since the 1960's. Malnutrition was lowered. There were millions with no indoor plumbing or electricity in the 60s. There were improvements made! You are too dumb for words!

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https://nationalcenter.org/project21/2014/01/08/lbjs-war-on-poverty-hurt-black-americans/

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A pro-rich GOP website has no credibility.

You didn't answer my question: What was the salary of blacks during 300 years of slavery?

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Because your question is irrelevant. I guarantee you LeBron James makes more than anyone on this board so stfu

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Lebron James addresses the racist attack on his home and how no black person is safe from racism:
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/19507378

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/19507487

My question is relevant because you said poverty began with LBJ.

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Way to show your reading comprehension is lacking.

You said riots are happening because of Republican policies

I said LBJs war on Poverty played a big part also Bill Clintons Tough on Crime bill guess what they're liberals

And LeBron maybe shouldn't have said "we coming for you next" about a cop who saved a black girl from being stabbed by another black girl

Gtfo you with your craziness

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Your entire post is made-up nonsense. You lost this debate.

I hope you watched the two Lebron James interviews about ongoing racism since you need the education and you brought him up to begin with.

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LOL sure I did.

Show me where in that post something was "made up"

Nope LeBron can fuck off to China and you can join him KKKeelai

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Get back to your retirement you arm chair quarterback.

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Get back to blowing sailors you 2$ dollar hooker

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Oh I am doing it right now. It is amazing.

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He asked you the same question multiple times and you failed to answer, then repeated the same claim - you are the one who sounds like an idiot, idiot.

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Except I did answer it idiot. Way to prove you're as retarded as Keelai

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Idiot ... retarded ... you are a sad individual with a limited vocabulary.

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Projection

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Correct sir. People like Keelai make this site seem like a bunch of clowns.

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Sometimes this site looks like the board for Stormfront. That's not limited to the Politics section.

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What's Stormfront?

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As always, should you or any of your IM Force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Your troll account will implode with lies in ten seconds.

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You're a fucking idiot.

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Do you people really have no other argument than "You're a racist" whenever someone disagrees with you? Jesus H. Christ, you're as bad as the "fake news" crowd. Fucking idiots.

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Racist shitbag pops up again.

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I conduct? Everyone knows you're the Grand Wizard of race baiting and race hatred on this site LOL tell us another joke

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LOL! I see you're conducting another local KKK meeting on this site with your cohorts TimMC, kuatorises, ItsGood2BeRight and chilone.

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"Everything I don't like is racist" - Keelai, 2021

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You used to be better at hiding what a moron you are. What happened?

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That's because it's not equality, but prejudice. It's just accepted prejudice. Humans are stupid. They are reactionary. Instead of a rational response to the problem, they just go extreme in the opposite direction. Racism is very real and very wrong. Instead of trying to deal with it rationally and justly, people just support racism against the race that did it in the past. It's fucking moronic.

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"racism against the race that did it in the past."

Your denial of racism still existing is racist.

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You literally quoted the part where I talked about past racism. Can you really not read, Keelai? Are you mentally ill? Suffering from a head injury, perhaps? Something else? Talking to you is like trying to have a phone conversation with someone on a bad connection. It's like you only hear parts of what's said or flat out just don't understand.

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There is no past racism. It's ongoing.

Your temper tantrum doesn't change that.

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You are truly a dumb person. Your comprehension is VERY bad. At no point did I say racism no longer exists. It's ALWAYS going to exist.

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You, like most people, confuse terms like racism, prejudice and bigotry. They're not all the same.

Racism can be severely reduced within society. An example is when Jim Crow laws were made illegal. Another example is the 1960s class-action lawsuit against the three networks making it illegal to deny nonwhites (& women) jobs as news commentators.

Right now, the GOP is creating more racism throughout the country by instituting laws to make it more difficult for blacks to vote while pretending it has to do with voter fraud. Making it illegal to vote on Sundays affect black voting drives. Removing voting boxes and sites in black areas which causes blacks to stand on long lines for hours while white majority neighborhoods have voters stand for an average of 15 minutes is racist.

Pretending that blacks and whites are starting life on an equal footing is racist because you are in denial that black people in the U.S. were denied wages for 300 years and access to good-paying jobs and opportunities for another 100 years due to Jim Crow laws which created the present poverty and other issues. Both past racism and present need to be addressed.

But any attempt at addressing it gets criticized by you and your pals. The reason is because you want to maintain the present racial hierarchy which gives you an artificial leg-up based on white-skinned privilege as it deprives nonwhites, especially blacks, the same opportunities.

If you're going to respond, I'd appreciate an intelligent response instead of a barrage of personal insults.

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Orly, point me where exactly the now enacted law made it illegal to vote on Sundays, I dare you. Vote boxes on the other hand weren't there to begin with until the pandemic (for those particular states) so that argument has no merit though I do agree there should be more voting boxes spaced out evenly with cameras monitoring them.

They need to reword it when bringing in equity because if all you're doing is talking about black/brown etc. i makes the whites feel left out to no fault of their own (policy makers made these rules/changes).

From what I could tell, most people were just complaining about the voter ID part, signature verification, and ballot harvesting. If you can't address that, then you're just inviting what they perceive as potential fraud. I've already seen a fed videos by a certain Crowder that had voters with address locations that don't even exist so I don't even know how that is possible. I wish Stacy Abrams made a comprehensive list on exactly what is being suppressed since it isn't as simple as, "oh you're voter suppression" without providing exact details on what part as the right claims voter expansion with more given days though doesn't handout every an absentee form unless requested.

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So 'Equality' should be optional? A cop can kill a black motorist then hug a white one for the same crime? A shopkeeper can charge you one price and me another? What kind of ass backwards thinking is that?!?! When you don't enforce equality that is exactly what IS HAPPENING!

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Wrong. You are selecting parts of nuanced situations.

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So Equality can't be optional therefore it must be enforced if we are to have a fair society!

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Wrong. Take a breath and pull your head out of your ass bozo.

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Yeah, basically you end up not with "equality," but racism against white people for the sake of meeting a "minority quota," which actually hurts more than helps. You also end up with people working at your company that might not actually be qualified for the job, other than their skintone, and you end up with someone dragging your workplace down because they didn't get the job due to hard work and having the right skills.

I read some very fine examples from an article written by a cop who had to deal with this crap in the 90s and early 2000s.

https://www.amren.com/features/2020/07/my-career-as-a-white-police-officer/

One of the most interesting examples of how affirmative action hurts the workplace, was a black cop who worked "beats," and yet was always 20 minutes late whenever someone called him for backup. Turns out he had been sleeping with 5 different women at their apartments when he was supposed to be out on patrol, and it was interfering with his work.

Now if a cop of any other ethnicity had been caught doing that, they would have been fired immediately. But because he was black, the boss couldn't fire him because he would be accused of "racism." So instead, they made him a "detective," and stuck him with a near-useless desk job, so he would be forced to stay at the station house during the day. He almost never solved any cases whatsoever, and mostly was just a living prop at his desk.

Sound like "privilege" to anybody?

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Sounds like something you made up

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Forced equality is the only kind. Equality doesn't exist in nature.

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Conservatives like to frame any kind of justice as something unnatural or freedom limiting for them.

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I don't give 2 shits what conservatives say or do.

My point still stands. All equality is forced, whether you think it or not.

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Of course they don't. Then you have the ones who work hard and make something of themselves like Dr Ben Carson or Tim Scott being called Uncle Tom's

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"Then you have the ones who work hard and make something of themselves"

Your comment is based on a racist stereotype by implying other blacks are lazy and unsuccessful.

Your lack of awareness of your own prejudice and discrimination faced by qualified persons of color in their careers are part of the ongoing racism.

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"Everything is racist" Keelai, 2021

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Mocking me doesn't absolve your prior bigoted reply.

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Nothing I said was bigoted though, anyone can work hard and make something of themselves. Except you you're a lost cause

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Historically, that's not true. There has been legalized and individual discrimination against most people in the U.S. except against white middle and upper-class able-bodied Christian males.

Upward mobility is even limited today even though there has been vast improvements made because of various movements which lead to changes in legislation.

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Horseshit

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Women were allowed to vote before the 1920s?

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Were you alive in the 1920s?

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Correction white women. Black women and men didn't get the vote until the 1960s, but that is being challenged now.

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Were you alive in the 1960s? What does something from 100 or 60 years ago have to do with you today?

Sound like you're just making excuses for your own shortcomings and failures

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What makes you believe I wasn't alive?

BTW, you can open a history book and educate yourself instead of remaining stupid.

Your stupidity extends to believing nobody faced discrimination. Successful Japanese-Americans had their property stolen and businesses destroyed as they were lead into Internment Camps. They never recovered their financial losses. They had to start over, again.

Native-Americans were living very successfully. As a matter of fact, they were taller and healthier than average Europeans who were malnourished because of systemic poverty throughout Europe. Remember, royalty and nobility kept wealth for themselves and starved most people. Indigenous people had no poverty. They lived in democratic societies which shared resources and were divided into three main confederations with millions of residents on the East coast.

For an ignorant fool like yourself to ask why haven't Native-Americans worked hard to do better after they had their land stolen, 95% of their people killed from genocide, disease and warfare and crowded onto barren land is a demonstration of your ignorance.

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LOL right cause you're an Immortal like the highlander that's why you were around in the 1920s

Fuck sake you are insane

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Your attempt to change the subject won't work. Racism continues. Denial of racism is in itself racist.

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Nowhere did I say racism doesn't exist..There will always be racism. People like you make it worse

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Not wanting to do anything to end racism is racist.

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"Everything is racist" Keelai, 2021

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LOL. You're out of argument.

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You're out of your mind LOL

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You end up with a society like we have now as a result of leftwing racism where no one gets credit for acquiring their position in life. “They just got there because they’re, white black brown tall short hot ugly skinny fat male female”. Worse you promote idiots into positions of power that require real intelligence and thus regress society. As we have now. Just see the Democrat Party/Media education industry.

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I think they feel it’s justified for possibly being screwed over in the past, an eye for an eye. You know, that old chestnut.

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