Months of rioting and looting and killing all summer long. Democrats only react NOW after 1 afternoon of unrest - Politics Discussion

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

They weren't looting because of a political party.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7725) 4 years ago

Oh yes they were. In the Obama-era BLM riots, white people were nowhere to be seen. In the riots during Trump's Presidency, the white Leftists outnumbered the blacks. This summer's shenanigans were definitely anti-Trump sedition, camouflaged in a transparent gauze of social outrage. The black participants may have been sincere, or maybe they just wanted new TVs, but all those white rioters who hijacked the movement this summer will be home smoking pot on their couches when the next black is shot by the cops during a Biden "presidency".

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

Look at the child trying to compare 2020, the worst year in history ever, to the Obama era.

Protests combined with massive job loss, massive evictions, and massive deaths equals looting and riots involving people of all color.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7725) 4 years ago

And all those groups sharing one political ethos. Leftist Trump haters.

And if you think 2020 is the worst year in history, you are obviously ignorant and grossly uneducated. This statement of yours shows that anything you say is drool from the mouth of a fool.

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

Leftist Trump haters, center left Trump haters, center right Trump haters, Mike Pence, and now Trump's own cabinet has turned against him. At some point you'll realize how ignorant you were these last four years.

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[–] TerraFirma69 (2269) 4 years ago

2020 was the 'worst year in history'?

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

No it's hyperbole, but it feels like it to most of us.

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[–] B1cKsurN (17483) 4 years ago

100%

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[–] Thespear (134) 4 years ago

they weren't looting at all. The rioting was started by white men and yes, desperate people took advantage. Trump's rioter and looters were looting on a LIE the President himself told them!

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[–] TimMC (9143) 4 years ago

YES THEY WERE> Plus the money from BLM went straight to the DNC.

Stop spreading lies.

You won, so why are you still spreading lies?

I don't get it.

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

Trump lost the presidency and the Senate. lol

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

Yes, trying to destroy democracy is a big deal!

American voters decide elections, not a crooked president, not complicit Republicans, not a violent mob.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7725) 4 years ago

Yes, trying to destroy democracy is a big deal!

American voters decide elections, not a crooked president, not complicit Republicans, not a violent mob.

Oh please! This. coming from someone whose political party has spent the last FOUR YEARS trying their damnedest to undo the results of a legal election by any means possible. The party who wants to abolish the Electoral College to ensure a forever-Democrat one-party USA. Spare me this sanctimonious bull-puckey!

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

Breaking into the Capitol Building with guns and bombs menancing elected legislators, as well as the vice president, and smashing a fire extinguisher on a cop's head thereby killing him is not acceptable behavior. Continue to make excuses for domestic terrorists!

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[–] whynotwriteme (7725) 4 years ago

None of it is any worse than the mass-mob terrorist violence you applauded all summer long. None of it is any more serious an attempt to overthrow the elected Government of the USA than the Leftist "resistance" that has been going on since 2016.

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

Right-wing extremists were repeatedly driving cars into peaceful BLM marchers, also. Many Trumpists are obviously radicalized.

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[–] sut6432 (2908) 4 years ago

Continue to make excuses for domestic terrorists!

That’s what you did ALL summer! You made excuses for riots! Can’t you see what a hypocrite you are? It’s insanity watching so many people on here defend or attack the SAME behaviors based on which political party they support! You unbelievable morons!

Democrat OR Republican...rioting is disgusting behavior that hurts innocent people! It should NEVER be defended, and these assholes who stormed the capital should be punished to the fullest extent of the law! As should the liberal extremists who beat and killed people, burned buildings, and shit on police cars over the summer. Fuck all of these people! Get a goddamn life!

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

Fixing the riot problem was possible though. Trump didn't want to do it. He didn't want to treat the pandemic seriously, and he didn't want to admit Floyd was treated differently because of his race/class.

Fixing Trumpism isn't possible. There's nothing democrats can do to make them believe Trump lost.

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

"Fixing Trumpism isn't possible. There's nothing democrats can do to make them believe Trump lost. "

That's because they have been radicalized. Q-Anon and hate groups are running the Republican party right now.

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

Yes. We've been trying to tell them for years that right-wing terrorism was the real threat and quacks anonymous was a real problem. But all they could do was put their fingers in their ears and say BLM this and Antifa that.

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

They're bigots which is why the have a problem with BLM and Antifa. Confederate flags and Holocaust T-shirts were popular attire at Trump's insurrection.

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

I can't say for sure its bigotry but I will definitely say its tribalism. They are stuck in their own little bubble of uneducated whiteness where anything the media says is smart person talk that scares them into siding with the dumb people.

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[–] Thespear (134) 4 years ago

There is also a deep seated hatred for anyone who is not like them. That is textbook bigotry! Trump understood this about them better than any other politician. The reason the seem impervious to facts etc is because they just DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!!! It is NOT because they can't understand it, they just WON'T!

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[–] sut6432 (2908) 4 years ago

Right there! It only took one post! Justifying and defending rioting. Making excuses for hurting innocent people. One post after I wrote it both of you did EXACTLY what was I was posting about in the first place! Unreal. 🤣

You’re just as bad as “Trumpism”. You think because you’re a liberal sheep instead of a conservative sheep liberal rioting and violence is justified. Guess what...IT ISN’T! Unbelievable.

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

Surely you know the difference between understanding and defending. I can't defend cops letting Trumpers into the capitol, but I can understand it. They weren't prepared.

I can't defend the riots, but I understand it took place in the aftermath of George Floyd during a pandemic that threatened their livelihood. The pandemic gives a very clear explanation of why it went as far as it did.

What's the explanation for the Trumper riot? Give me one. I'm all ears here.

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[–] sut6432 (2908) 4 years ago

during a pandemic that threatened their livelihood. The pandemic gives a very clear explanation of why it went as far as it did.

So, during a pandemic threatening their livelihood...the answer is to crowd the streets by the thousands? Solid logic there. That argument makes NO sense. NOTHING will ever justify that type of behavior. Keep busting out the excuses though.

What's the explanation for the Trumper riot? Give me one. I'm all ears here.

There is no explanation. Fuck them. Once again, there is no excuse for it. It is horrible human behavior, and they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. They are lower than dog shit. NOTHING gives someone the right to hurt innocent civilians! Republican or Democrat...it’s all horseshit.

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

"So, during a pandemic threatening their livelihood...the answer is to crowd the streets by the thousands?"

No. They didn't know where to start or where to go. They took their anguish out on empty stores and lifeless building walls when there was a better answer to improve their situation. And I think you would agree with me that there was a better way to lessen the blow of what they were dealing with.

"There is no explanation"

Exactly. They thought they could actually give Trump four more years when it wasn't possible. There was no possible way they could lessen the blow of what they were dealing with because they were lied to by Trump and Giuliani that intimidation was the only way.

One riot is caused by a complicated problem that has a complicated answer. The other riot is caused by lies. That is a monumental difference.

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[–] sut6432 (2908) 4 years ago

One riot is caused by a complicated problem that has a complicated answer. The other riot is caused by lies. That is a monumental difference.

I don’t disagree with that statement. Yet they are both riots none the less, and the people involved in committing these crimes, AND the people supporting and justifying their actions should be ashamed of themselves.

We can talk in circles all night, so I’m done. That’s probably the closest we will ever get to common ground in all of the arguments we’ve had on here, so I’ll take that as progress. Haha. Have a good night.

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

The problem is you're assuming I think all the BLM rioters should avoid prison time.

I really wish people wouldn't make such assumptions.

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

You consider the fight for equality and justice to be wrong which is why you call it rioting.

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[–] sut6432 (2908) 4 years ago

Protest all you want. I consider rioting wrong, that’s what happened. Any time innocent civilians are murdered, injured, or have their businesses destroyed by worthless strangers in the name of “justice”. Burning down buildings does NOTHING for equality. You call behavior like that the fight for equality? Give me a break. You’re so full of it you have shit coming out of your ears.

That would be like me killing or hurting someone you care about, so you walk across the street and hit a random person in the head with a sledge hammer who had nothing to do with anything. There is NO defending it. Yet you continue to try. I learned a long time ago you are worth it, so I’m done.

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

You obviously cheer rioting because you support those who smashed their way into the Capitol building and you're trying to justify it. I'm not going to allow you to deflect from the fact that you are also supporting
racism, white supremacy and voter suppression by trying to deny the black vote because your sociopath Trump lost.

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[–] sut6432 (2908) 4 years ago

What??? I obviously cheer rioting? That is 100% the opposite of what I have been doing...look back at damn near every post I’ve made on this thread, and all the way back to the summer when the riots YOU were cheering on were happening! You are just making shit up now you complete lunatic.

Fuck every person who stormed the capital, and as I said several times already, every one of them should be arrested and punished to the fullest extent of the law. They are all dog shit human beings.

It’s sad you have to lie through your teeth and call everybody a racist or white supremacist when you get backed into a corner, but it’s proof that you are a complete fraud and can’t be trusted or taken seriously. I think most people on here already know that. People can read you know. You support rioting when it’s YOUR political party doing it. I denounce ALL rioting. So you go ahead and keep lying.

You are the biggest tool on these boards, and when you say things that 100% aren’t true because you’re getting waxed in a debate, you are proving that exact point.

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

Three of your previous posts never mention the assault on the Capitol!

Your fourth post shows a moral equivalency between marching for equal rights and justice during the summer with radicalized right-wing extremists who refuse to accept the election results and tried to kill elected legislators, police and the vice president of the U.S. by smashing their way into the Capitol building with guns and bombs.

You also believe the lives of black people are less important than a building which his why you continue to be outraged about looting, but don't care about innocent blacks being killed by police.

BTW, protestors marched in front of my home three times during the summer, once a few blocks a way and repeatedly held demonstrations and marches on the street where I work. They were all peaceful. Your repeatedly referring to these marches as "rioting" is very racist. I know you're only repeating what you heard on Fox or other right-wing source or from Trump, but it's still racist.

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[–] sut6432 (2908) 4 years ago

You never say anything of value. You also don’t know shit about me. I don’t give a shit about Fox News, and I don’t know how many times I have to say that on here, but that is the last time. Police killing unarmed black men is horrible, but it doesn’t justify rioting and hurting innocent people. Peaceful protesting is fine, and I’ve never had any problem with that. I focus on the rioting because that is what pisses me off. Protesting does not. They BOTH happened, regardless of what you choose to deny.

So are you denying that rioting took place over the summer???? Really??? You mention I care about buildings more than black people. Why are you not acknowledging that innocent people were hurt in the riots you support??? Do you care about David Dorn? You won’t answer that...I know for a fact! Do you care about people who had nothing to do with the death of George Floyd being killed or beaten within an inch of their lives when they had NOTHING to do with it? Yeah, you won’t answer that either.

When you can look at yourself in the mirror and confront your own racism and extreme biases, then you can start accusing someone else of being racist. Twat.

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

I already addressed your questions re: in a recent post so I won't repeat it.

Right-wing media is trying to deflect what is happening NOW by bringing up past marches. I already addressed the marches during the summer when they were taking place.

Right-wing extremists stormed the Capitol and could have killed multiple legislators along with Pence. Unlike you, I'm not easily distracted by someone who tells me to look at the shiny object. Trying to kill multiple elected legislators goes beyond "rioting".

If you can't tell the difference between looting a store and killing the vice president and other elected officials in order to destroy democracy and replace it with a deranged dictator then you are beyond help.

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[–] sut6432 (2908) 4 years ago

You didn’t address anything...you just seem to really like the word “deflect”. You should add the word “hypocrite” to your personal repertoire. Ok, I’ve officially had enough of your condescending bullshit. It’s a waste of time. I’m done.

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[–] Thespear (134) 4 years ago

Black people were KILLED by police ALL summer or are you effing BLIND!!!!

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[–] sut6432 (2908) 4 years ago

So let’s go kill and beat the hell out of innocent people, destroy their livelihoods, and loot??? Are you brain dead to think that’s a reasonable thing to do? Eat shit.

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

You're watched too much Fox News which distorts reality. The overwhelming number of marches were peaceful.

There were criminals who infiltrated to loot and they belong in jail. There were a few protestors who stupidly looted and they are misguided, stupid and belong in jail.

But, there were also police (and Trump for his photo op with a Bible), as well as right-wing extremists who attacked peaceful demonstrators who you are choosing to ignore.

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[–] Thespear (134) 4 years ago

How can Reps be so stupid? Well unfortunately for you we are going to stuff Democracy down your throats you SC stealing bastards!!! We will add DC and PR as states so we keep the Senate more easily. We will add as many as 9 more liberal judges to the SC and start working on dismantling the Electoral College, it is undemocratic and gives an unfair advantage to the voters in small mostly red states. Then you can voter id and gerrymander yourselves as much as you like it won't matter because the President will be chosen by popular vote and the way I see it, we have about 9 million more voters than you do! Karma is a bitch and Trump is an Arsehole!

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[–] Lord Rake (4469) 4 years ago

No a bunch of people in 6 counties counting votes in the middle of the night while the other side has been removed from observing what they are doing is what decides elections.

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[–] beermonkey70 (282) 4 years ago

except .. not sure . There were always observers from both sides. Lawyers admitted this in court. Repeating the lies does not actually turn them into truth

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[–] Lord Rake (4469) 4 years ago

There are videos of them being removed and videos of them being kept extreme distances away so they could not possibly see what was on the ballots. Nobody admitted anything in court, the courts just dismissed the cases. Repeating the lies don't make them into truth.

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[–] beermonkey70 (282) 4 years ago

quit lying they absolutely did admit it . read the transcripts

The "observers" they removed were unauthorized additional observers many of which were being disruptive . again admitted by Guliani in court

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[–] Keelai (34969) 4 years ago

Trump lost over 60 lawsuits because he never brought any proof. Trump's delusional and sick. He's still inciting more violence for later this month.

If you have any proof, then provide a link. Unlikely because it doesn't exist.

Your support for an armed mob attacking a branch of the American government and killing a cop must make you proud.

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[–] B1cKsurN (17483) 4 years ago

"No ban, no wall, NO USA AT ALL"

I seem to remember viloent mobs chanting this.

Shills gonna shill.

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[–] Rorikon (17940) 4 years ago

Guess we'll see how fast these guys will be prosecuted vs the ones in the BLM riots that had lawyers to bail them out and funding set up by celebs or congress members.

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[–] Filmtenk2 (4064) 4 years ago

Kyle Rittenhouse had his $2 million bail paid from donations.

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[–] Gd5150 (11771) 4 years ago

How dare you!

It was “Pearl Harbor” - Chuck Schumer

It was worse than “the British in the war of 1812” - Democrat media/party

This is what happens when you have a federal government run by career politicians. The founders knew this and did everything they could to put limits on the power and organization of government.

Unfortunately money rules the world now and communist China has enough to make all of DC/Media/BigTech kneel in for hopes of getting a taste.

7 months for a $600 stimulus check. The other 80% to foreign countries. That’s how much DC cares about the peoples lives it destroys.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7725) 4 years ago

Yes. The USA is a vassal state of China now, with Biden installed as our puppet ruler. Meanwhile Pakistani transgenders are enjoying millions of bucks of our stimulus money, thanks to Congress. I hope someday all the 'useful idiots' who fell for the Lefty News anti-Trump propaganda over the last 4 years someday realize how badly they have been rooked and how they sold out the USA.

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[–] Filmtenk2 (4064) 4 years ago

Nope, I will die knowing that Trump was truly awful for America. There will be no "someday" realization.

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[–] whynotwriteme (7725) 4 years ago

The brainwashing is strong in this one! We'll see how you feel after a few years of Biden/Harris.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

Me personally I am disgusted by what happened the other day at the capital that is not civil behavior at all and it’s a disgrace to everything this country stands for. The Demokkkrats however shouldn’t have a problem with it because they actively encouraged rioting all summer but then as soon as they are the ones threatened with violence that’s when it magically becomes a big deal. If Trump needs to step down because of this one incident then Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, etc should be impeached as well. “They just do what they do” -Nancy Pelosi

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[–] brux (14729) 4 years ago

Do you Republican have an allergy to facts and the truth?

One afternoon of rioting inside and against the Congress while it was in the most precarious business the country can do? Are you actually making that comparison?

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[–] brux (14729) 4 years ago

>> Idiot Liberals were even claiming it was their 'civic duty' to go riot in the summer insurrection in honor of dead criminals.

Hahaha, Luckily then there are so few "idiot" Liberals and that they are less idiotic than the idiot Republicans who gave money to and rioted at the behest of a loser President who has no respect for our government or way of life, or the will of the people.

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[–] snepts (11123) 4 years ago

That's utter and complete bullshit.
Regular people who don't vote rethuglican didn't endorse whatever stupid shit happened in the summer, and the protesters were trying to expose a pattern of violent discrimination by our own public servants.
pubs are an unhinged mob of people who are BENEFITING from the status quo and are afraid of losing their privilege, while also getting raped by those in control by economic strangulation.
It's so effed up, people who are so dumb to not recognize how they are being used by venal forces, and cheer them on.
wtf !

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