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Awards bought and paid for by Apple Board is dead (R.I.P. Nov. 2023) Leo was paid 40 million Bye bye Leo's Oscar chances... Next, Marty and Thelma will disable the "pause" button on Apple TV HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI SIZED BOMB! View all posts >


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Even though PR narratives push the idea that Scorsese made consultations with the Osage people to ensure as much authenticity as possible, it seems this authenticity extended only to the costumes and portrayal of some rituals. The fact remains that DiCaprio and DeNiro hogged the screen time, about 80% of it, and the native characters are reduced to either “noble savage” or “helpless victim” tropes. I don’t know why most of the narrative and camerawork focuses on Ernest, a completely uninteresting and disgusting character. They had the audacity to make DiCaprio the main character and stick him on some kind of redemption arc and make Molly so passive but try to cover it up with PR stories or saying all the right things in interviews. But what is disingenuous is news stories announcing Leo’s huge salary for a film that is about white oppressors forcibly stealing the wealth of the Osage community. Add to that no mention of what his Native American co-star was paid. It is abhorrent considering the subject matter of the film, it makes his lip service to, what he refers to as “the plight of the Osage community”, seem like mockery. If he keeps the movie royalties…that is blood money, sir.  The making of this movie was not the time for Scorsese and DiCaprio to indulge their egos. They miscalculated the artistic angle they took for being creative or novel. The film drastically reduced the weight of the flesh and blood of the real story in favor of crafting an award vehicle for Leonardo. It’s a self promoting stunt at the expense of real people by completely hollowing out the real suffering of the Osage people. The self interest motivation is so evident and embarrassing because there is no depth in any of the protagonists. Only Robbie Robertson will win an Oscar for Best Score. After that, Brendan Fraser has a better chance at winning a Razzie for this film than any of the other nominations have at winning an Oscar. Leo: :( Scorsese should pay me for keeping this film in the "Trending" section because even his own fanboys have nothing to say about it other than its a box office bomb and the actors look ugly. Merely pointing out that Scorese’s faux mafia wannabe gangster buddies in NY gave awards to a mid film that puts people to sleep faster than NyQuil is not a conspiracy :) Shhhhh fanboys hate hearing the truth here. Martin Scorsese doesn't know how to portray women or love stories at all (and im not saying it's in any way a "love" story, this is 100% an abuse story. But Scorsese and DiCaprio keep harping on about how it is a "twisted love story", which shows how little they understand about relationships and how skewed their perception is) Her character's behaviour makes absolutely no sense in this film. She’s supposed to be this strong and intelligent woman, and yet she just passively let’s her husband murder her whole family, and then at the end she... HUGS HIM? Scorsese lost the plot with this one. I kept waiting for her to shoot DiCaprio but every time he sees to it that one of her loved ones is murdered all she gets to to is weep and then touch his face lovingly. Why did they advertise the film as if she is important to the story, other than to sell tickets to native audiences? Trouble comes with the insinuation that Ernest truly loves Mollie. He takes very little manipulation from Hale to start killing her sisters and eventually her for her oil money. Of course, he loves money - the film makes sure we don't forget that by having him say as much, and in so many words, about 15 times - but there is simply no hesitation to do these horrible things to her family, no internal conflict, not until the last act or so, at which point it comes across as uncharacteristic. He says he feels regret, and Leo looks regretful, but he has done very little to convince me of this. The film couldn't decide whether it wanted him to be a truly horrible, greedy man who didn't love Mollie or a sympathetic victim of a genuinely evil man who was tricked into hurting the woman he loves. I never once felt that Ernest loved Molly. Everything about them felt rushed. & the whole "it's about greed, he really loved her but greed took over he couldn't see how terrible it was that he was poisoning her" Please.... how could you poison the mother of your children and claim to love her ? He is trying way to hard to convince everyone that he's straight. The point of the thread is that Leo was paid that huge salary for supposedly being a "box office draw" and then the movie flopped with audiences... theatres were half full on opening night. Leo's fanboys are the ones making a huge deal about the box office performance of his films but now that he has a bomb they have 10000x excuses. Scorsese has a thing for super old white men with wide heads. Ernest is supposed to be younger than Mollie and yes they are supposed to be in their late 20s/early 30s. Had any younger actor or even Jesse Plemmons (who was originally supposed to play Ernest) played the part it would've been much more believable as well as accurate to the original story. Scorsese just indulged himself and nobody told him no. Read the book for a much better experience. Only fanboys think the movie is a believable "love" story. View all replies >