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Why do they have to show it? Makes the final scene where she's an automaton like all of the other supermarket wives more dramatic. You infer that her robot counterpart killdeer with that nylon cord and the men go on doing what they've been doing with impunity. Chilling.
I don't think you're correct, Annkat. What are you cutting those horrible husbands break for? They didn't brainwash their wives; they killed them. Both in the book and the movie.
"Big fake tits and sweet robe-puss." That had me in stitches, Rusty.
Don't you mean Hardcore (1979)? And that was theWestCoast (L.A., San Francisco, and San Diego).
Your math doesn't add up, Abner. Even if the movie was made in late 1973, 12 years earlier would be 1961. Kennedy would have already been nearly a year into his term in office. The 1960 election would have been in November of '60, so it would have to be "13 years ago," for a late 1973 production date, 14 years ago if made in '74.
I don't think "the future came true." I think it's that things haven't changed enough (improved) since 1971.
Wow. I'll have to rewatch Out of Sight. Nancy Allen would've been 45 when that was made. Impressive if she looked just as good in lingerie 15 years after Dressed to Kill.
No, I'm no psychologist, and I don't profess to play one on the internet. I just can't see how in the context of the unique situation portrayed in Dressed to Kill that you (or anyone, for that matter) could be so certain that you'd have that reaction.
Yes, I can understand feeling that way - regardless of any previous disappointments - if a grievous murder is not part of the equation. But, again, if my wife turned out to be a big ol' slut who f*cked some aging gigolo who stole her Isotoner glove at an art museum and likely gave her an STD, I'd still be much more concerned about finding the maniac who slashed her to pieces with a straight razor in the elevator of this gigolo's apartment building.
For somebody who never experienced infidelity in marriage your reactions to this part of the plot of Dressed to Kill seem to come from a very wounded perspective.
Sounds like a psychologically convenient way to avoid dealing with the horror of a gruesome murder of a close family member. Good thing Kate's son, Peter, wasn't so disgusted. Who knows if Det. Marino and Dr. Levy would have solved the mystery if none of the victim's family members got involved.
Damn! You're all heart, whynotwriteme.
Looks like I'm 9 years too late, D_Ray_Morton, but, yes, I came onto this site to see if anyone recognized this version of Wuthering Heights to be the one that inspired Kate Bush's now classic song/choreography of the same title.
I have been married for going on 16 years and I too have never been the victim of marital infidelity, but if I found out my wife was stepping out on me the same day I learned she was brutally stabbed and slashed to death in an elevator, I'd be a lot more crushed over her death and its manner than the infidelity.
But Elliott's own incarnation of 'Bobbi' was that of a man wishing to undergo a gender reassignment surgery. If you listen to his answering machine messages, that's the way he, Dr. Elliott, made Bobbi sound.
It makes no sense to slam her for having unflattering 80's hair when the film was shot in 1980. And it's pretty pathetic that the most you can say about 1980 Nancy Allen is that you 'wouldn't kick her out of bed.' Are we watching that same movie? Pudgy face? Pasty?
Late in my defense, but that's exactly how she was able to be a Park Avenue prostitute and charge $500-$1,000/per John. Remember she wanted to act on that hot stock tip, so she lined up that guy from Cleveland? That's a lot of money in 2023. I could only imagine how much that would equate to in 1980 terms.
But she proved her ability to 'hook,' in the Elliott seduction scene. That black lingerie! Damn! And those lines to Elliott: "I think you're full of shit," and "I'm going to powder my nose and when I get back I want to see your clothes on the floor next to mine." That was some convincing sexy talk as far as I was concerned. Nothing "sweet and lovely" about it.
I was confused by that Health Department venereal disease form. How does that work?
It says he has a "serious venereal disease." And then it lists at least 10 women he had sex with within 2 weeks of the assumed date of the infection. Did the caseworker type those names and addresses onto the form after interviewing Warren Lockman the date he would have been tested? Or did he add those names to the form (on his own typewriter) after receiving the positive test results and he just hadn't mailed it back to the health department when Kate discovered it? Was it his obligation to contact all of those women to inform them they may have gonnorhea or syphilis? Or is the Health Department going to contact all of them now that Warren's test results came back positive?
I was only three when this movie came out and, fortunately, I never contracted an STD in later decades, so I'm somewhat ignorant as to what was being expressed in this scene.
Yes, I just rewatched the movie (with the benefit of our modern understanding of transgenderism), and, yes, they do mention transsexualism too much for the nature of Elliott's psychosis. And, yes, it lends itself to a conflation between transgenerism and dissociative personality disorder. It appears that in 1980, if a man wanted to become a woman there had to be a separate, distinct female personality in his being that wanted to 'win out' over the outward male personality. Seemingly no understanding that the personality is singular but the outward gender misapplied to the person's sense of gender identity. The Donahue interview with Mrs. Hunt was a good nod though toward our contemporary understanding of this issue, as there did not seem to be any hint DID in their case history.
She was going through something, dealing with her own problems. Doesn't mean she didn't care about him or that her marriage was irretrievable (had she not been killed).
And, again, it's just foreign to me how a husband of however many years can be so detached as to not be mournful and angry at the means by which his wife died. I would think one's heart would go out to a stranger who was killed in that gruesome a manner in such a public place, to say nothing of one's own spouse.
SPOILERS
Yes. I don't think Elliot was ever a transexual. Rather, the transsexualism was feature of the multiple personality disorder. It also worked as a great disguise to avoid criminal detection for his (Bobbi's) crimes ... until it stopped working. Remember what Dr. Levy explained, "When Elliot's penis became erect ..."? That was the trigger. When a woman aroused him enough to induce an erection, she was marked for death. 'Bobbi' would take over and demand blood.