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Howard was eventually promoted to copilot although one has to be a very die hard BNS fan to remember that (-: It was only mentioned in passing. Besides, at some point (in the real world) he'd have had to have taken promotion to copilot as the navigator position was being phased out in most places. No, but she and Mary later met and was Mary's special guest on stage for one of her shows in Minneapolis. TBNS hands down!!! As another poster put it, if you were there in the 1970's during its original run, you would probably perfer TBNS. Newhart ended up essentially being a remake of Green Acres (big city folk trying to adapt to rural eccentricities). Newhart's first season showed promise and the cafe owner, Kirk, was a lot like the Elliot Carlin character of TBNS; George was more like Howard (albeit with less education) and the original maid was believable in the guise of a rich girl who wanted to work and pay her own way through college. Kirk was made "more human" when he fell in love with Cindy and then struggled to accept the fact that she was a professional clown; in the end, he did accept this and they married and left. Once Larry Darryl and Darryl came, then things started gowing downhill (I liked the guys, just not that same old gag constantly) and Stephanie and Michael really got on my nerves in a way that TBNS characters never did. So I have to go with TBNS as being the better of the two. Bob Newhart later did a show where he was a cartoonist; I recall not liking that show at all. Later, he did a fairly decent Odd Couple knock-off show with Judd Hirsch (George and Leo?) but it didn't last very long. The "other lady" was [the late] Mary Frann whose background was in soap operas. Agreed - not the same chemistry. You KNEW that Bob and Emily got it on; with Dick and Joanna, you pictured either separate beds ( a la Dick Van Dyke, I Love Lucy, etc...) or maybe they even slept in separate rooms. Not to be overly technical, but Jerry was actually an orthodontist and they will invariably be expensive. Those were the days when being a "metal mouth" was just about your only option for teeth straightening. Remember, this was decades before invisible braces and Invisalign. (Just as an aside, I can recall seeing adults wearing full banded braces when I was a kid.) Anyhow, I would guess that, yes, Jerry was good at what he did or he wouldn't have had the clientele to afford the office space in the building. My dad was an administrative officer in an army reserve medical unit during the 70's and 80's. He said that there were several "Jerrys" he knew over the years - shameless skirt chasing egotists but excellent at their professions. If I may be permitted a slight deviation here from CBS - for me, it was Emergency! (on NBC starting at 7pm Central time) then over to CBS for Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart. 9pm (central) was my usual bedtime during the school year but I did get to stay up during the summer to watch Carol Burnett. Yes, 1978 was a sad time for me too with regard to Saturday night TV; things were just never quite the same afterwards. Suzanne Pleshette's well-modulated alto voice was just sooo sexy, not to mention how absolutely beautiful she was!!! I didn't get to liking The Jeffersons and All in the Family until much later. Almost 50 years later, I've found that - for me at least - the Bob Newhart Show has aged very well; I still find myself laughing at the gags no matter how many times I've seen a given episode. This I haven 't found to be the case so much with MTM, I regret to say. I still find myself longing for that time and place every now and then.