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This occasionally angry white guy eventually saw it on video and actually liked it - it was basically African Thor, and I liked the Thor movies (the first 2, anyway, before Watiti made the franchise into dumb comedy).
Not sure why the cast had to be so black though - why not more diversity? :)
Hm; that's too bad. I'm no fan of rap or hip-hop but can see where they make sense in a show or movie with black leads or cast. I wouldn't see why an Asian kung-fu show would need heavy doses of it, either.
Were it not for that I'd have tried the show, except for one <i>other</i> annoying thing that turned me off immediately: after selecting the show in Wokeflix, in that damn video preview feature you can't turn off, instead of a clip showing some action or the show's plot, I got a character lecturing some waitress about white racism against Asians.
I can't stand watching anything on that service anymore. The propaganda is so blatant at this point.
Do you see how imperceptive you yourself are?
Disney may not literally pay critics but they can sure cut them and their publications' access to screenings if displeased. Fandango owns a significant chunk of RottenTomatoes, for another example. You think "objective" critics aren't incentivized to thumb the scale for a big release when a ticket sale company signs part of their paycheck?
This isn't even anything new or unique to Disney. Independent consumer reviews for any product have always been important.
The likely reason critics felt free to be honest about TROS is everyone knew by then the whole trilogy was being poorly received and they weren't risking a future gravy train.
So you trust people who get paid to see movies, more than people who pay to see the movies.
The former getting paid, at that, by media companies often owned by the same conglomerates owning the movie company, theaters, ticket storefronts, etc.
'kay.
Or the last of the fandom shaming Rian and sort of sympathizing with JJ, not because ROTS was good but because he got made the scapegoat. (Hi.)
But yeah, I'd agree most have moved on. We're in step 18 of the Geeker Gating of this IP.
He's likely rather sitting in smug satisfaction that ROTS did even worse than TLJ.
He and his media groupies can still get fucked. He did to SW the equivalent of throwing shit on the Mona Lisa and calling it art. Out of poseurious praise for him, and/or contempt for the fandom, the "critics" all gushed over it. The fandom made it quite clear they felt otherwise.
I still contend retconning TLJ was the worst thing for ROTS - the fandom already walked away. TLJ ruined the DT beyond repair. ROTS only succeeded in pissing off the remaining vocal minority that actually liked TLJ.
I feel kind of bad for JJ - I wonder how much he really wanted to clean up Rian's mess, how much his hands were tied by suits wanting to ROTS to play it safe with fanservice and retconning TLJ, and how much he realized he was going to be the fall guy for its certain failure.
An effective leader exercises "my way or the highway" once decisions are made, but also <i>seeks and accepts input from others with talent and subject matter knowledge</i> before making the decisions. KK is clearly not into the latter.
Obi-Wan would absolutely get the Luke treatment with her still at the helm. The Agenda is evidently still more important than quality product or making money.
To death? Nah.
To the point of eventually decanonizing the DT, and preventing any further attempts at recontextualization of the OT or PT into a woke, hackneyed travesty? God I hope so.
As noted, The Mandalorian proves they can deliver SW that the fandom wants. It just needs leadership from actual talent who know and care about the IP, rather than feminist ideologues who know little about it and care even less.
But for you fans of current year SW, fear not, current rumors point to the future of SW movies being even more like the aforementioned XMM (Xeroxed Marvel Movies). No more constraint by the trilogy format, and Jedi superheroes with the Force granting them whatever powers the writers want to make up. They'll be prequels to the PT, which will break EU Old Republic canon unfortunately, but maybe we the fandom at least burned the Mouse enough to never risk touching Lucas' canon again.
Disney's just doing what they do best now, buying IP made successful by talented people and selling it to a broader audience. I doubt they see gender or color as much as just dollar signs.
But personally I do find the situation frustrating. I'd have no problem with <i>adding</i> demographic representation in entertainment -- everyone needs role models -- but it seems to play out otherwise. "Diversity" ends up translating to "replacement", and the MCU's become another case in point.
No (clearly identifiable) straight white male heroes left that aren't clowns. Spider-man could be an exception; the movies suggest him becoming the new "Iron Man" but I wonder if Marvel will let him evolve beyond an insecure teenager. Barring that, though, the "trolls" have a point. "Diversity" has once again been realized as "kick out the original demographic".
My straight, white nephews still deserve role models, too, even if some think that the demographic having majority representation in the past is somehow a problem. For now, though, it's tough finding movies to take them to, with Disney having such monopoly power in the industry.
I knew of this movie's existence for a long time but only recently committed to watching it in its entirety.
It's quite a visual and aural trip, even almost 40 years later. It's a bit before my time but I can see why it has a cult following; it's a very good production for something so counter-culture at the time.
I can't pick a favorite; I like Harry Canyon, Den, So Beautiful & So Dangerous, and Taarna. All great offerings of their genres.
Den & Taarna, dark fantasy with male & female hero respectively; Harry Canyon, film noir; and So Beautiful & So Dangerous - comedy. Love Zeke, Edsel, and the little unnamed robot who could be Bender's ancestor.
B-17 was well-done horror but fairly generic, and Captain Sternn I really only liked for the surprise ending.
<i>If</i> it even crosses $1B. It's entering its 3rd weekend still in the $800M range. After dropping almost as much as TLJ in its 2nd week, even with people on Christmas vacations.
I'd say there's still a chance the movie will fail to hit it. And if it does it'll barely scrape past it.
I think we may never know just how much the movies really made or lost, with all the "Disney magic" going on in their accounting department these days.
In the end I believe it will have made money but nowhere near as much as it should have. It would be considered successful for an unknown IP. For Star Wars is it absolutely a flop. A $4B franchise run into the ground. The question of how it all happened would be amazing to investigate but sadly will likely be covered up. We'll all be left to believe our own narratives of choice.
I guess it's the grand culmination of corporate politics, overconfidence, and ineptitude in a "too-big-to-fail" company.
I did and I think it's the juiciest leak yet. That image above is apparently what Abrams actually had in mind for that scene.
And a bunch of other stuff KK and/or Iger forced him to cut or change -- or changed in post without his knowledge.
The dumpster fire just keeps burning brighter. How much gas and dynamite is still in there? :D
Ahahaha... oh wow.
The DT defenders thought the "manbabies" were toxic just because we hated the fact the new films ruined the OT characters, Luke especially, and overwrote the OT's legacy?
They've gone and triggered the <i>Twilight</i> crowd.
They ain't seen nothin' yet. :D
"Fuck it" - JJ Abrams. I think that was the message it sent.
I wonder how much JJ weighed the idea of bailing on this movie. He had to know he'd become the fall guy after Rian rianed *ahem* ruined everything. His direction may in fact have been the least worst way -- retconning TLJ, maximizing nostalgia, and moving the plot so fast you don't have time to think about how incomprehensible it is.
The message the fandom hopefully <i>took</i> from this mess is that globalist corporations can and will sacrifice profit to subvert culture, control narrative and push an agenda if they have the resources -- and if we let them. :P
Oh, he was in this movie! Just obscured by Rose in all of their scenes. :D
Man, you almost made me imprint my keyboard on my forehead...
I don't know whether it's more sad, funny, or scary just how damn formulaic and predictable Hollywood has gotten with this narrative. Awful movies succeed now just by "virtue" of being woke. And they're not even the kind of awful that's actually fun to watch, like Ed Wood's classics, for example -- just preachy feminist screeds and cultural vandalism / nihilism. :(
You made me think of the old CATS & DOGS movies from the 2000's. Funny that they're both likely better than this one. And they had some A-list celebrities doing voices, too! Kind of amazing in retrospect for a couple of goofy talking animal movies.
Wow... now that is an oof among oofs. LOL :D
That's a different argument. I don't think anyone has a problem with bigger, stronger women winning women's sports. It's about wholly or predominantly genetic <i>men</i> claiming a place in women's sports.
And I'm aware of the traditional definition of transsexual. What I can't accept is the current in-vogue extension of that definition going beyond dressing/living as the opposite and insisting one <i>actually is</i> the opposite and demanding to be recognized as such.
Men can be effeminate, and women masculine, and that's fine; men and women can be homo or bisexual and that's fine; they can dress in drag and - though I personally find it questionable - it's fine. But claiming they actually are the opposite - that's not biology, but psychosis, and a dangerous thing to normalize.