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Totally agree. This is kind of a kid's movie too, and up until that scene did a great job as a film for everybody. Thankfully, the TV edit version does it justice, and makes it a film for everybody, but I think this was the 1 major blunder, and don't know how it passed screenings, when the film is set out as a family comedy. This 1 scene seems completely out of place in the film, and it's too bad, because all they had to do was replace the expletive with something like "freaking" instead. It doesn't ruin the movie, of course, but I thought it was supposed to be a family comedy, and that detracts from that big time.
Maybe a construction worker or something. Maybe even as a foreman after a while; a position where he could dictate along with getting things done. Could see him having a wife. Maybe a woman he meets at a bar or something.
Haha this is awesome
I know, right haha. Aside from being stuck if anything went wrong, everybody was within ear shot of each other's conversations.
Yea, it was very minor, but that was one of the first things I thought of when the Gestapo officer came over to join the group for the card game. Just knew something bad was going to happen. (I just saw the film for the first time 2 days ago, and love it!) It's probably just coincidence, but would be curious to see if Tarantino saw Where Eagles Dare. It's a great kinda whodunnit film with a very mysterious, eerie atmosphere. Great to watch on a winter's night!
I found this, which is a heavily edited composite of this general part of the film. Starting at around the 6:30 minute mark up till the 11 minute mark is the part that reminds me of it. Keep in mind, it is heavily edited down of the entire scene and for some reason skips a bit, but is a rough overview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIXCORnoieU
I think he could have, but then Landa mentioned the floorboards, and that changed everything. He was going to have a complete search of the place, and Mr. Lapadite knew it, so he had to come forward or it would have been the end of him.
Just saw the film, and I thought it added a touch of realism. It always irritates me when WW2 movies have Germans speaking English. It detracts from the realism.
Yea that line about telling the truth, maybe he is true to his word in that he does what he says, but the way he goes about things can be deviant and flat out illegal, which he considers a "lie".
Good point about Frank, and notice how when Frank asks "who would want to kill me? I've got nothing but friends!", it immediate flashes to Tony and Manny; a sort of foreshadowing.
Yes, I do like Frank too, and he's my favorite too. The first time I watched the film, when Tony said he wouldn't kill Frank, I was relieved just as Frank was lol, but then he immediate tells Manny to, and ugh.
And I relate to when Frank talks about a "chazer", being Yiddish for pig. It's Hebrew for pig, and he also wears a gold chain necklace with 2 Hebrew letters, which is "chai", Hebrew for "life". (I'm Jewish, so I feel a kindred spirit there haha).
My grandparents lived in Miami and then Ft. Lauderdale area and I would always go down every year, so every time I watch the movie, I feel that vibe.
I guess it establishes on how ruthless and determined Tony is to make it big. While he does have morals (he doesn't lie, he won't hurt women and children), he ultimately has many flaws which is why I feel much more sympathetic to Frank, who seems to keep things in check and "flies low". He just made the fatal mistake of getting hooked up with Tony and his crew.
I always laugh at the line in that scene when they get stuck when Tony asks if he should start over and come in again haha
That makes sense. Another thing about that scene that I wonder about is why did Tony allow Angel to die? Would it have been too hard to get the money and give it to Hector? At the very least, it could have bought them more time, rather than having Angel die and Tony seconds away from the same happening.
Yes, you're right. That's what I meant to say. If anything happen to Tony and his gang, it was no skin off Omar's back. Then again, they would have been out their (Frank's) money. I don't know why he would risk this, if the reward of this deal was worth the risk considering it was in good probability almost a suicide mission (which turned out to be).
Almost every main and secondary character died, and Tony had no kids, so they would have had to basically start from scratch, unless they filmed something around Elvira, or done a prequel.
Tony was slowly molding Frank's business into his own vision. That plus considering Omar likely had Tony set up at Hector's, he just let it slide, and actually may have thought it was actually a favor. They never got along, not once. Just bad vibes between them. That said, it was Omar who was partly responsible for Tony finding this opportunity, but I guess all that other stuff overrode that.
Exactly. I have to side with Frank on this one. After what happened to Frank and Mel, I felt Tony deserved what he got. Frank never tried to go for too much. He was smart. His only mistake, and a fatal one, was getting involved with Tony. Tony only brought on bad vibes wherever he went. That said, I do admire Tony's individuality, and morals for not harming women and kids, but he went too far regarding the Frank situation, going after his lady and trying to take more control of the business.
Of course, once the hit was put on, there was nothing that could be done. Frank could apologize like he did, but if he would have been let go, he would have had to do it again because Tony wouldn't have let that slide.
I just saw it for the first time last week. Watched bits and pieces of it a few more times as it came on my movie channel, and just now finished watching it complete again. I learn more with each viewing. Was glued to my tv the first 2+ hours, and a great watch all the way through.
Yes, first thing I noticed was that the wedding was around a half hour give or take some minutes, but I think it sets everything up, with the wedding going on, and mixing that with showing how Vito runs things, with the various meetings going on during the wedding.
The baptism and juxtaposition with the killings was very gripping and eerie. I thought that was done very well too.
It was poignant, with Vito and his grandson. Kinda got the feeling at the beginning of the scene that something might happen to him and this would be the appropriate place. It was sad, because he was so grandfatherly during this scene, showing his humanity.
I thought it was a great movie, and I can see why it got all the accolades. Wish I didn't wait 42 years to see it haha. And looking very much forward to watching the sequels.
Yea, I've heard only great things about the sequel. I started watching this one at midnight 2 nights ago as that's when it was on one of my movie channels, and got through the first hour and a half, and decided to call it it a night when Michael went away.
Last night I finished it (again starting at midnight to get the same vibe), rewatched the first hour, then skipped to the 2nd half so I could be in bed by 2:30.
Glad I rewatched the first hour. I picked up things I missed the first time, as it usually takes a couple of rewatchings for me to get the gist of things.
Right. I mean, I know they had to kill Early off somehow, and I guess they wanted to make this scene as dramatic as they could, having the phone ring and Early passing his mailbox simultaneously to create tension (which I thought was brilliant). But the way it was presented, I just wondered what it was about the phone ringing that triggered him to suddenly turn around and go to his mailbox lol.
Could he have heard his phone from outside, or was that tension just created for us the viewer, and thus perhaps he didn't actually hear it but suddenly remembered he forgot to get his mail just at that moment.
In any case, I love this movie, it's kind of like almost a whodunnit with lots of tension.
"Go" (1999) has a similar style where it follows different people throughout, and involves drugs, but to a much lesser extent.
I would have liked to see a kind of redemption. How Jenny seemed elusive in a way to Forrest throughout his life, and then the revelation toward the end with him reading the letter and her being close by; that was a shock factor. And then revealing that she had his kid; another shock. One that I would have liked to have seen it end on. So we have that twist to finish on, that would have sufficed for me, considering all the loss that he's been through already. Why compound it even more?
So now he's forced to raise a kid with Jenny. The biggest challenge of his life. The end.
I just thought having her die was unnecessary at this point.