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No offense, SageMaster, but it is archangel, one word.
First, I am not a Rey fan. I haven't liked much of the story.
Second, it is explicitly stated in the film that healing is an ability that has not been seen in thousands of years and is related, for some reason, to the bond between Rey and Ben(Ren).
Now, is that weak? It is a bit. But the film follows from that premise. Palpatine's original plan was for Rey to strike him down so his mind could invade hers and the line would continue, with all the Sith behind her. It is only when Ben arrives and they demonstrate healing that he changes plans. Stating the absence of the ability for those thousands of years he drains that power from Rey and Ben to heal himself.
I am not a great fan of the last three films. However, I attempt to be honest in any evaluation of a film. The issue of healing not being seen before is addressed in the film.
It can certainly be argued that it is a weak explanation, and I would not argue against that claim. But to say it invalidates previous uses of force abilities is not accurate.
Ghostbusters II was released in 1989. Additional material was released at the same time. Ghostbusters had a pretty large fan following for years. It doesn't strike me at all odd that he would have items in the late 90's from Ghostbusters. I recall kids in the eighties and nineties also had original Star Trek and Star Wars boxes and other items through the nineties as well.
Did you misspeak? As far as I could tell, Spenser had no desire for his friends to follow him. I believe he said as much when they finally found him.
Now, whether he should have anticipated they would follow him is another question. Since he was on the outs with Martha he could have assumed no one cared enough; but he probably should have anticipated the possibility. Still, he was depressed and not really thinking clearly.
You are becoming silly.
Again, the presence of gills was inferred. It required no other mention, comment, visual or ANY OTHER MEANS OF COMMUNICATION!!!
This concept that everything must be explicitly addressed is annoying and and indication of viewer laziness. Audiences need to be engaged in the entertainment they are watching.
NO. It was not necessary! It would be redundant!
"Everything does not have to be shown" also means "Everything doesn't have to be said." That he has gills is easily inferred from everything we learn in the film. One mark of bad, or immature, writing is the urge to tell everything. Sparseness is a virtue.
Everything does not have to be shown. This obsession that every tit and toddle must be shown, mentioned, explored and explained is tedious. Movies would be five hours long just covering everything that can be easily inferred from the background of the film and what is actually shown.
So, you have a complete list of all possible Jedi abilities? Such a list exists? The possibilities have been expanding since the beginning. Yoda "suddenly" develops the ability to see the future, however imperfectly, in ESB. That ability was nowhere to be seen in NH. By your logic, that is a violation of what has been shown. Nowhere did "super-leaping" appear in New Hope as well. That suddenly developed in ESB.
As to my examples: The current record of high-jumping is currently 8 and a half feet set in 1993. That height was unimaginable in 1912 when the record was only six and a half feet.
Throughout the series we are shown that Jedi (and Sith) can affect the world around them. How is the ability to heal any different than controlling minds or seeing the future. Conservatively, the process is only speeding up the natural functions of the body. Its not like they suddenly created life.
A bit old, but Perry White said "Great Caesar's Ghost", not "Jupiter."
Really? So, for most musicians their abilities are obvious at birth. After all, they don't just appear.
An student who decides to compete in cross-country events can immediately high jump to their greatest potential. After all, the ability can't just appear.
Abilities develop. It is established that Rey is training. She exhibits the ability to heal. It is explained that that ability has not been seen in thousands of years. They give an explanation.
Is it all handled well? No. We should have seen hints of this before. But they did give us at least some foreshadowing.
I really hate defending a film I thought was only adequate. But give the makers their due.
I was on the other side of things. I worked retail for nearly 40 years. Which meant I was at work at 4:30 AM on Black Friday and worked a 12 hour shift for all those years.
I take it you are referring to holograms. I freely admit to having not seen a lot of DS9 episodes. But, as you have mentioned in your comment, it was new. It would not have been available ten years before the original series.
Sigh. Politeness truly suffers on the internet. They established an ability that the two share. You don't like them. Truly, neither do I. However, the concern was addressed. And, I hate to tell you, ability (in the real world as well) can appear in people that are unlikable or, even, have little training.
And, I might add, it is also established in IX that Rey has been training.
And I would agree. It would have been better if we had seen some hint of this healing power in the previous VII and VIII. Introducing it in IX is a bit forced; though at least we saw it early in the film before it became a critical issue.
As I recall, having just seen the film, Rey and Ben are the first to have the healing powers in tens of thousands of years. It is supposed to be an effect of their bond through the force.
You can argue if it is a deus ex machina or not. I can see both sides of that argument.
But no, Obi Wan could not heal Qui Gon because he didn't have that ability. Neither did Anakin/Vader, Obi Wan, Yoda, Mace or Luke.
You know, my Grandparents never told me the significance of December 16. I sure it traced to some celebration in Lindini.
I think it just tore my mother about the takedown. Sometimes she did take them down, but often not. Stretching it to Easter was unusual, but did happen. Logically, she would admit that keeping the season shorter would heighten its importance, but sometimes she just couldn't bear to take them down.
Until I started working retail (which I did for forty years) Black Friday didn't mean much to us. We never went out and shopped that day and my parents and grandparents didn't really look at it as the beginning of the Christmas season.
We didn't really celebrate Valentines much; mostly just what the school sponsored. We would give my parents cards, and they exchanged cards; but I don't think they ever did anything special; at least after we kids came along.
Easter was different. It was an important day, but we didn't put up decorations. It was a family gathering time with lots of traditions of food to serve and visiting. Interesting, we would be with my grandparents and people came to us; we never went to them. My grandparents did seem to have some type of status amongst the relatives, though, again, it was never explained to us.
Saying something is fiction isn't an excuse.
In the case of the CSI shows, the focus was intended to be on the forensic science (which, yes, wasn't always accurate and was almost always done too quickly.) Given that intent, there was little chance to engage the audience with a show restricted simply to the lab.
Now, I've seen the argument that they should have had regular officers for the street work and interviews and the CSI's for the lab work. And they all had "regular" officer involved. But any show can only have so many regular characters; both from an artistic and budgetary point of view.
So, they make the extrapolation to have the CSI's do interviews, carry guns and chase suspects. For these shows it is part of the suspension of disbelief necessary. Many shows have to do this to move the narrative.
Sigh. Kids who think they are so much smarter than their elders. Suffered from that myself.
With my genetics? That is family history? Dementia is a good 30 years away, thank you.
Just because its you doesn't mean it isn't rude. (And I don't watch Bonanza. Not that I dislike older movies and shows. I do. I also like new movies and shows. It all depends on the individual piece. )
Funny. So funny. I've been reading voraciously for 57 of my 62 years. I read all sorts of things: science, philosophy, engineering, religion, fiction, astronomy. I have a BS in Mechanical Engineering. I would bet I have read far more than you have.
You are still shouting. Its rude.