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Wade and James present TWO DIFFERENT PEDOPHILES

posted 6 years ago by [deleted]
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I've been familiar with their stories for awhile and the thing is, they actually contradict the profile that the create of Michael.

On one hand, we have James, who describes a man who:

1) groomed him over years
2) trained him not to get caught, including getting dressed drills

Then with Wade we have

1) a man who abused him on their first night together, and
2) abused him every single night.

Wade said to have slept with him hundreds of times.

So there it is, two completely different stories of an abuser. One who groomed over a long period and was anything but reckless. Then on the other, someone who on the first night they are together, abuses him, and does so every single time after that.

Sorry, but that doesn't make sense.

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

Pick any random guy off the street, and ask two of his ex-lovers to describe their experiences with him.

Betcha they'd be different.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Actually they wouldn't

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

Of course they would!

Seperately interview the exes of any random human being, and you will get reports that sound radically different. One person will report slow courtship, another will report a quick initiation of sex. One will report bad sex, another good. One will report someone who is usually nice, another will report bad temper, etc. That's because people really do act differently with different people, and those different people filter everything through their own perceptions and experiences.

Everyone knows that, or at least everyone with a clue about human behavior.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

We're talking about the psychological profile of a pedophile, not what a general relationship was like.

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

Really? Because your post certainly seemed to be about the subjective experiences of two different people, not a professional psychological profile.

And if they report different experiences, like one being nailed immediately and other not, that might be because one had a more vigilant parent, or one was more resistant to seduction by evil adults, or whether the local authorities were breathing down Michaels neck at the moment, etc.

Human experiences of the same thing vary too widely to base conclusions on these kind of discrepancies. I mean, you could take two identical twins, and send them on separate trips to Disneyland, and have them ride all the same rides and shop in the same stores. They could easily report widely varying experiences even though they did the same thing; one might call it a "magical day", and the other might say it was a crowded nightmare. And by that I mean: Your original point is invalid.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Shhh, people are generally of habit, and follow patterns. That's how they catch serial killers.

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

So if you won a $10K prize you'd refuse, because it's your habit to earn your money? If a beautiful woman offered to have sex with you, you'd refuse because it's your habit to beg and plead for weeks before giving up in despair and swearing to really join the monastery this time? Of course not! You'd amend your behavior to fit the circumstances.

Give it up. You posted an untenable argument, and can't defend it.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Are you wade because you sound loco

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

No, hon, that's just the sound of cogent arguments.

You don't seem familiar with it.

[–] einstein (2588) 6 years ago

you are both right, but one of you is righter, and both of are wrong, maybe both of you should kiss

[–] WhaChaChaKing (23) 6 years ago

Wasn't James the first one or at least before Wade? He probably felt more confident after trying everything out with James. He was also left completely alone with Wade much earlier than James and for a whole week. Not only that but Wade was a huge fan of his while James wasn't. I figure it'd be easier to molest a kid that's infatuated with you.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 6 years ago

Same descriptions of the same abuser. Sorry.

[–] Robbie008 (8) 6 years ago

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