Is some propaganda movie?
They have been training for 2 years and all of the sudden they have massive trust issues like they met yesterday.
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Russia, China bad. America good and benevolent.
Everybody is a drama queen
Good points.
"They have been training for 2 years and all of the sudden they have massive trust issues like they met yesterday."
This annoys me, the trust issues they have are just silly. Bad writing.
The soapy drama also annoys me. Especially the stuff with the daughter, I couldn't care less about her dating life, I feel like fast forwarding those scenes.
But still I find myself enjoying the show, I guess I want to see how the mission goes in the end and it has enough interesting stuff to keep me watching. Not a great show but I wouldn't call it totally bad either.
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You know, Defying Gravity was cancelled, too... they keep throwing the same dross at us... mebbe they think now that social justice has been rioting for a year, people will submit.
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You fast forward through all that stuff and all you get is more annoying nonsense.
shareI think the idea is that you don't know whether you're going to trust your leader until they are tested in the real thing, and in their opinion she doesn't pass the test. However the dislike amongst all the crew members was surprising to me, trust or no trust. You would think that there would have been a lot of bonding exercises provided to them in order to reduce the likelihood of this kind of situation happening. I guess one thing was that in order to make the team multi-national, they had to put all these people together who really had nothing cultural in common, and maybe no amount of team-building exercises could bridge the cultural gap or create an artificial sense of community.
sharetrying to get to Mars might create a common purpose, don't you think?
shareI think a common purpose is different than a sense of community.
shareHah! Good one. This isn't Star Trek. Reality is worse. It's all about COUNTRY SUPERIORITY FIRST, not HUMAN KIND FIRST. We're separated by race group on whose the superior color/race. That's how it is and that's how it'll end. Human kind will cease to exist in the near future if not span out onto a nearby planet to claim what's rightfully theres while battling each other for resources thereafter. Same repeat tribal shit in the end. The faster we go extinct, the better.
shareOverall it's just very boring with lousy characters
3 episodes in and I give up
What about the team leader married to the mission control guy (whatever...I didn’t last long watching)? And then his health issue? Ugh.
shareTotally agree. I don't see how ANY of them could have passed a psych eval individually nevermind as a team. Emma is also a *terrible* leader who would never have been put in command of the mission (and I have exactly zero problems with women in leadership roles). And that's apart from the ridiculous lapses in proper mission planning and risk management. The supply ship would DEFINITELY have been sent first. The backup water system would have had the same, full capacity as the primary and a critical system like that would have probably had a second backup especially given the duration of the mission. Since the craft was built on the moon, weight limits a much less significant. And that doesn't even count the physically impossible plan for them to rendezvous with the second supply ship. There's no way they were carrying enough fuel to lose all their slingshot velocity then re-accelerate enough to match velocity with the supply ship. Completely absurd and basic astrodynamics.
share"Everybody is a drama queen"
Yes. Too much drama, not enough Science and space stuff, and it was a tough slog to make it till the end. Even though Mars looks cool, I can't see coming back for another 10 episode punishment.
Now that I've got to the end, I think I understand what is going on. In one of the later episodes, Lu tells Hilary Swank's character Emma that Emma is looking backward instead of looking forward; that is why she is failing as a leader. So it's not just another girl-power show (phew). I think Lu's statement is the show theme.
When you look at each of the characters, they are making a choice between looking forward at the mission or looking backward at home. Emma is looking backward because she feels guilty about leaving her family. Lu is looking forward and accepts that it means leaving her family behind. Misha has always looked forward (at the mission) and lost his relationship with his daughter, and now he is dealing with the unhappy consequences of that. I think Kwesi is looking forward but has brought his religion with him as a (we'll see) healthy way of looking forward but keeping a piece of his family culture with him. Ram is looking forward because he has nothing to look backward at (since his brother is dead), and because he has a thing for Emma who is present in the ship. So I think the show is about being really open to the future vs hanging on to the past.
So I think this is a show about a theme, and not so much a space show. I think this is one of those attempts to get, um, normal people to watch a space show because shows are expensive to produce and if we can't get some normal people to watch them then we will have many more Firefly experiences ahead of us with our space shows getting canceled. Not all space shows can be like The Expanse and get saved because Jeff Bezos likes them.
Of course the problem is that for those of us who like space shows, what we like about them IS the space part. So turning them into dramas, about themes, that just happen to be set in space (with a little space stuff sprinkled in to placate us space people), takes away exactly the aspect of the show that we like.
It's a conundrum.
Also, I still miss Dark Matter.
I'll watch this season yo the end but season 2 in a no no unless they go thru a wormhole and end up in the delta quadrant with the Borg.
shareBad script, bad characters, totally unrealistic. A Mars mission crew would be the best of the best, united for a common purpose. Not a bunch of back stabbers and blubbering morons. The equipment wouldn't malfunction every 30 minutes. The commander was unfit to command a sailboat, and the crew should be in the brig.
I was excited to watch this show when I heard it was coming out. I couldn't make it through the first episode. I started skipping ahead to see when they get to Mars. It was with 7 minutes left in the last episode. The pilots weren't talking to each other, the botanist asked them how many times they had almost died getting there, and then everyone started crying.
Watch The Martian for a depiction of how a crew really works together.
I too skipped from episode one to the landing!
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