Yea it’s woke - if that’s an issue than you will claw your eyes out.
Wokeness aside - it’s just so boring. It’s not GoT (not even in the same universe), and it’s barely LoTR. It’s just meh.
I think The Witcher was much better than this and had a ton more heart. I don’t think Bezos is going to to get much of a ROI with this one.
I think boring is the key word here.
share100% The woke thing doesn’t really bother me (unless it’s just blatantly heavy-handed), but it seems to be a new factor in which people rate movies on this forum, so I just mentioned it.
But it’s just bad - really bad - so far. I’ll probably check back here in another month and see if people say things like “it’s amazing you got to keep watching!”.
I feel bad for Rosamund, though. I consider her an A-lister.
I watched the first 1 1/2 episodes last night. I thought it was overall fairly good, like a 6.5 or maybe a 7/10. It at least looks nice.
The main problem for me, so far, is that I don't find any of the characters especially interesting.
Also, yes, there is wokery afoot. Notice that it is only the male characters (at least as far as I've watched) who are ever fools, or evil, or make huge mistakes. The female characters, by contrast, are always wise, and capable, and valiant.
The audience score on RT is 83% and the IMDB rating is 7.5 though, so it seems like most people are pleased with it.
What show are you watching? Your bias is showing because male characters aren't the only flawed characters.
shareMale characters:
-- Fuck up so badly that they accidentally kill their significant other.
-- Are super-evil and burn poor, innocent women at the stake.
-- Apparently suck so fucking much that they've just ruined everything and the womenfolk now have to come along and clean up their mess.
The female characters, meanwhile, maybe have a hair out of place or something? What are their great flaws that you're referring to?
I get that these themes are from the source material. It's widely recognized that the books had strong feminist overtones.
Boy you are daft. So you conveniently ignore Dana, a evil Darkfriend. The Aes Sedai, the majority of whom are cold, callous, and calculating. Not to mention the Red Ajah, a misandrist sect of the Aes Sedai who actively hunt men and effectively lobotomize them. Yeah they sure come across as "white hat" good heroes.😒
shareWhich episodes did we see that in?
shareSay you haven't actually watched the show without actually saying it. Do better, be better.
shareThere are only three episodes available. I've watched two.
I don't remember seeing most of what you mentioned. So unless it's all packed into the third episode it sounds like you're pulling from the books.
The Red Ajah hunted a male channeler and gentled(lobotomized) him early in the first episode. Maybe gather more/complete data before making conclusions and judgements that only betray your biases against feminism and diversity.
shareI didn't know those biases needed to be "betrayed."
shareMost people don't intend to so obviously display their bias hence the use of betray - no quotation marks needed. It's a common phrase and I suspect you're just being obtuse. I "like" how you dismissed/ignored the examples I provided that destroy your argument by claiming to have not seen them and now you're deflecting. Your criticism isn't accurate.
shareThis supports my own opinion, the writing if the show is very poor, things like thus are not clear. I am watching it every Thursday night but feel the writing abd cast are letting it down
shareI can't respond to this post adequately because it would spoil it for you, but I'm just gonna ask what, exactly, makes you think the woman burned at the stake was innocent?
shareI am only going along with the implication of the way the scene is written, but I acknowledge that maybe the writers are being clever and going to pull a big switcheroo.
shareYes, it's hard to say. I don't feel like the books were particularly feminist, but they've already implied the Dragon could be a woman, which wouldn't really work with the DNA of the books. So we'll see.
One of the most fun things about the series was that nothing is ever quite what it seems. Sometimes you would have to track a character or a plotline through three books to work out what was really happening. There were probably hundreds of little subplots with different minor (and major) characters. There were message boards and fan sites with fourteen year old boys doing all sorts of careful textual analysis to keep track of what different symbols or events might mean. (Their English teachers would have been so proud!) Eventually things got really bogged down and there were lots of words but not a lot of plot movement, which maybe was a reflection of when Jordan was starting to be ill. But when he was at his peak the books were a blast.
I was once thinking about reading the books and read some comments that said the longer the story goes the more it meanders and there are a thousand subplots that often seem to go nowhere. Considering the fact that I am a slow reader anyway, and prefer shorter books, that was enough to make me say, "Nah."
It sounds like, at least for a time, the series was fun to follow though. I've always wanted to get into a book series that much. I thought I might have an opportunity to do that with Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive series but I got about 400 pages into The Way of Kings and lost interest.
Yes, I totally understand where you are coming from. It was a lot of fun while it lasted and at his best Jordan could really grab your attention. Hopefully the series will be able to edit out some of the meandering but we'll see how they do. I feel like I have seen a lot of shows recently where well-known actors are taking on a smaller role that appears intended to draw in audiences to a show that will ultimately be led by younger, unknown actors. I appreciate and respect that established actors are trying to help the next generation get started. But so far I am not really drawn in by the new actors.
shareBORING, is right. The story was a ripoff in its day and it hasn't aged well.
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