Waste of time


It's a relatively nice funny movie, but it's too long and kinda pointless from my point of view..

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Agreed. For me it's definitely Tarantino's weakest, and an actual plot from start to finish would have been nice. Classic Tarantino in the final 30 minutes but what the heck took so long to get there?

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True that...

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For me it's definitely Tarantino's weakest,


No, you're thinking of "Reservoir Dogs" and "Death Proof."

Classic Tarantino in the final 30 minutes but what the heck took so long to get there?


Let me list some of the great or near-great pieces that occupied the viewer's time before the entertaining hippie attack in the final act and the heartwarming close (which is the way it should have turned out on that infamous night): The amusing satirical Bruce Lee confrontation and the great Spahn Ranch episode, which effectively creates an underlying sense of menace and includes Cliff kicking so-and-so's axx.

Then there's the friendship and respect of Rick and Cliff; Rick's breakdown with the precocious girl actor (not actress, lol); the beautiful women throughout; the great cast, including several celeb cameos; the entertaining soundtrack; Brandi, the pit bull; Rick's meltdown in his trailer; Rick finally pulling off a quality acting scene via ad libbing; George Spahn not remembering Cliff; everything (surprisingly) turning out to be precisely as so-and-so said; and the amusing allusion to what MAY have happened to Cliff's nagging wife (Rebecca Gayheart) on the boat, to name several.

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Reservoir dogs is a masterpiece, Once upon a Time in Hollywood is straight to tv level.

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To each his/her own. I think "Reservoir" is the least of Tarantino's flicks. It's hampered by a low-budget vibe, which I can handle, but not the uninteresting lowlife characters, their self-made conundrum, their interminably dull dialogue and the one-dimensional setting where about 80% of the story takes place in an old (curiously green) warehouse, not to mention no females in the main cast.

Still, it's interesting to observe Tarantino's first serious stab at filmmaking and it has its moments of genuine entertainment. It's a lesson on humble beginnings, which shows potential while not being up to snuff.

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Why would no female characters be a problem? It's a guy flick, it's like me complaining about no male characters in a movie like Divorced wives club. Its not like Once upon a Time in Hollywood has strong female characters, it has Margot Robbie who is there only to be damsel in distress. It has no strong male chars either, to be sure.

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"... not to mention no females in the main cast."

Pardon my French, but what the fuck does this matter? I'm quite surprised at this comment, from you of all people, especially. Aren't you typically against the nonsense of the radical left, or have I mistaken you with another user? If a female (or male) doesn't fit into the plot, why force one?

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Absolutely I'm against the lunacy of the radical Left, but I prefer a winsome female or three in film, generally speaking. They're a staple of most genres (e.g. horror, sci-fi, fantasy, drama), even if minor in some cases (e.g. Westerns).

I said "to each his/her own" and "it has its moments of genuine entertainment," so it's not like I'm disrespecting "Reservoir" or its devotees; I'm just being honest about why it's my least favorite Tarantino flick. Also, my criticism of no women was the least of my caviling.

In its day it was fresh (albeit noticeably low-budget), but it was quickly & spectacularly outdone by both "Pulp Fiction" and "Jackie Brown" in the 90s (especially the former). I suppose it doesn't help that I viewed those two first and then backtracked to "Reservoir" in 2018.

But if you and Zilkin love it, more power to ya. I'll give it another chance in the next few years.

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" Also, my criticism of no women was the least of my caviling."

It was just the only one that I didn't understand. Again, especially from yourself.

I'm not really trying to be in heavy defense of the film or anything. I definitely like it better than most of his. I think I ranked it second, behind PF, in another thread. Then again, I think I also ranked "Death Proof" and "Jackie Brown" as my #3 and #4, which most people seem to not like (especially "Death Proof"). So, what do I know?

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I liked most everything about "Death Proof" except the dreadfully dull inane chatter of the girls, especially in the second half, which constituted too much of the story. Interesting dialogues are usually one of Tarantino's strong points, but not here. I guess the point was that these particular women were shallow.

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Not enough women in RD, too many in DP haha. That's a good point about the chatter and the fact that they were shallow though. Truth be told, I, myself, was probably always pretty shallow in all of those moments, looking more than I was listening.

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"I liked most everything about "Death Proof" except the dreadfully dull inane chatter of the girls"

Practically the whole movie consisted of those birdbrains squawking. It was the most annoying movie I've ever seen. No other movie even comes close. Before I saw Death Proof, Twister (1996) was the most annoying movie I'd ever seen, but if Twister is like a mosquito, Death Proof is like a whole swarm of Maine black flies.

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Totally agree. I loved this movie....

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“Let me list some of the great or near-great pieces that occupied the viewer's time “

I would like to add the contrasting of Cliff Booth and Roman Polanski. The scene where Polanski is dressed in his robe outside and is a aggravated by his dog is the exact opposite of Cliff. When Cliff turns down the advances of the underaged hippie on the way to Spahn Ranch we certainly understand at that point that Polanski, in a similar situation, would have made a different choice.

The entire film leading up to the final show down is full scenes that feel like we are just spending time with the characters but everything is happening for a reason.


It’s easy to understand why people can be puzzled by this type of film on first viewing. I absolutely love it more and more each time I watch it.

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That's a good insight (comparing Booth and Polanski); I didn't catch it on my viewing. But I laughed when one character observed Sharon Tate's "type" of beau.

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There really are a lot of things going on in the film. I find most of the haters are not getting any of it.

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I hate it. It's pointless. Tarantino has lost his touch.

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No, he hasn't. He spread his wings and isn't solely doing low-life thug flicks anymore, as he did in the 90s & early 2000s (but, don't get me wrong, "Pulp Fiction" and "Jackie Brown" are exceptional).

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Have any of you read any of the discussions here about the specifics of this film’s layered plot?

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To the plot?

The movie has some layers, but it's not really plot driven.

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There is a whole lot of things going on in the film and some of it can pass over the viewers heads but is pretty evident after multiple viewings. Every scene has a reason for being there.

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Only people who lived the 60's period can probably follow what the film is partially about from that scene when Cliff visits the Spahn Ranch.

Tarantino also cut the flashback scene where Cliff murders his wife and probably had more screen time for Charles Mason but when Burt Reynolds passed away he probably changed the script and gave the character that only sick man in bed scene with cliff.

Otherwise it's not really up their with best stuff Tarantino did.

Probably need to watch the movie while high *LOL* !

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Good point 😂😂

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I'm lost here. Why would only people who lived in the 60's be able to follow the film? Everyone who knows about Charles Manson knows he had his "base" at Spahn Ranch. You don't have to be 60 years old to use Google. Am I missing something? Because this is obviously an alternate history story. Just like he did with "Inglorious Basterds".

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I felt the same in Inglorious Basterds because I was born after WWII. I was like “who the hell is this crazy guy with the mustache?” 😉

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Everyone who knows about Charles Manson knows he had his "base" at Spahn Ranch.


Not at all. I saw an Indie documentary about Manson & his hippie thugs in 2016 and I didn't know about Spahn Ranch until seeing this movie (although I'm sure the documentary mentioned it, but that was over three years earlier and I obviously didn't retain that bit of data).

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No accounting for taste. Especially shitty taste...

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You said it best brother.

Was it bad? No.
Was it good? No.

It was an okay waste of time.
I didn't hurt my lazy Sunday.

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It was light years better than friggin' "Avengers: Endgame" (rolling my eyes).

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And ice is hotter than flames

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What? You think "Endgame" was great? That cliched 'big battle' sequence was a snorefest, not to mention the overlong epilogue.

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Do you think because I thought this film was at best okay, that I can only be entertained by the likes of a Marvel Movie?

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No. I apologize for giving that impression.

I was sharing my own experience/perspective, as well as that of my wife: We saw "Avengers: Endgame" at the theater, followed by "X-Men: Dark Phoenix." While both those movies had their points of interest, each ended with the cliched 'big battle' sequence, which was curiously boring. I realize "Dark Phoenix" is reviled for the most part, but "Endgame" is generally gushed over; regardless, the third acts of both left a lot to be desired. And so my wife & I jokingly swore off superhero flicks (not really, but we needed at least half a year break and "Joker" didn't really qualify as a superhero movie). So when we saw "Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood" at the theater it was so refreshing by comparison.

It may not be on the level of "Pulp Fiction" or "Django Unchained," and it needed tightened up here & there (there's some filler), but it has several great or near-great scenes and myriad entertaining bits throughout; not to mention it had the confidence to take its time (like most Tarantino flicks). My grade: 8/10

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