Waste of time
It's a relatively nice funny movie, but it's too long and kinda pointless from my point of view..
shareIt's a relatively nice funny movie, but it's too long and kinda pointless from my point of view..
shareAgreed. For me it's definitely Tarantino's weakest, and an actual plot from start to finish would have been nice. Classic Tarantino in the final 30 minutes but what the heck took so long to get there?
shareTrue that...
shareFor me it's definitely Tarantino's weakest,
Classic Tarantino in the final 30 minutes but what the heck took so long to get there?
Reservoir dogs is a masterpiece, Once upon a Time in Hollywood is straight to tv level.
shareTo each his/her own. I think "Reservoir" is the least of Tarantino's flicks. It's hampered by a low-budget vibe, which I can handle, but not the uninteresting lowlife characters, their self-made conundrum, their interminably dull dialogue and the one-dimensional setting where about 80% of the story takes place in an old (curiously green) warehouse, not to mention no females in the main cast.
Still, it's interesting to observe Tarantino's first serious stab at filmmaking and it has its moments of genuine entertainment. It's a lesson on humble beginnings, which shows potential while not being up to snuff.
Why would no female characters be a problem? It's a guy flick, it's like me complaining about no male characters in a movie like Divorced wives club. Its not like Once upon a Time in Hollywood has strong female characters, it has Margot Robbie who is there only to be damsel in distress. It has no strong male chars either, to be sure.
share"... not to mention no females in the main cast."
Pardon my French, but what the fuck does this matter? I'm quite surprised at this comment, from you of all people, especially. Aren't you typically against the nonsense of the radical left, or have I mistaken you with another user? If a female (or male) doesn't fit into the plot, why force one?
Absolutely I'm against the lunacy of the radical Left, but I prefer a winsome female or three in film, generally speaking. They're a staple of most genres (e.g. horror, sci-fi, fantasy, drama), even if minor in some cases (e.g. Westerns).
I said "to each his/her own" and "it has its moments of genuine entertainment," so it's not like I'm disrespecting "Reservoir" or its devotees; I'm just being honest about why it's my least favorite Tarantino flick. Also, my criticism of no women was the least of my caviling.
In its day it was fresh (albeit noticeably low-budget), but it was quickly & spectacularly outdone by both "Pulp Fiction" and "Jackie Brown" in the 90s (especially the former). I suppose it doesn't help that I viewed those two first and then backtracked to "Reservoir" in 2018.
But if you and Zilkin love it, more power to ya. I'll give it another chance in the next few years.
" Also, my criticism of no women was the least of my caviling."
It was just the only one that I didn't understand. Again, especially from yourself.
I'm not really trying to be in heavy defense of the film or anything. I definitely like it better than most of his. I think I ranked it second, behind PF, in another thread. Then again, I think I also ranked "Death Proof" and "Jackie Brown" as my #3 and #4, which most people seem to not like (especially "Death Proof"). So, what do I know?
I liked most everything about "Death Proof" except the dreadfully dull inane chatter of the girls, especially in the second half, which constituted too much of the story. Interesting dialogues are usually one of Tarantino's strong points, but not here. I guess the point was that these particular women were shallow.
shareNot enough women in RD, too many in DP haha. That's a good point about the chatter and the fact that they were shallow though. Truth be told, I, myself, was probably always pretty shallow in all of those moments, looking more than I was listening.
share"I liked most everything about "Death Proof" except the dreadfully dull inane chatter of the girls"
Practically the whole movie consisted of those birdbrains squawking. It was the most annoying movie I've ever seen. No other movie even comes close. Before I saw Death Proof, Twister (1996) was the most annoying movie I'd ever seen, but if Twister is like a mosquito, Death Proof is like a whole swarm of Maine black flies.
Totally agree. I loved this movie....
share“Let me list some of the great or near-great pieces that occupied the viewer's time “
I would like to add the contrasting of Cliff Booth and Roman Polanski. The scene where Polanski is dressed in his robe outside and is a aggravated by his dog is the exact opposite of Cliff. When Cliff turns down the advances of the underaged hippie on the way to Spahn Ranch we certainly understand at that point that Polanski, in a similar situation, would have made a different choice.
The entire film leading up to the final show down is full scenes that feel like we are just spending time with the characters but everything is happening for a reason.
It’s easy to understand why people can be puzzled by this type of film on first viewing. I absolutely love it more and more each time I watch it.
Have any of you read any of the discussions here about the specifics of this film’s layered plot?
shareOnly people who lived the 60's period can probably follow what the film is partially about from that scene when Cliff visits the Spahn Ranch.
Tarantino also cut the flashback scene where Cliff murders his wife and probably had more screen time for Charles Mason but when Burt Reynolds passed away he probably changed the script and gave the character that only sick man in bed scene with cliff.
Otherwise it's not really up their with best stuff Tarantino did.
Probably need to watch the movie while high *LOL* !
Good point 😂😂
shareI'm lost here. Why would only people who lived in the 60's be able to follow the film? Everyone who knows about Charles Manson knows he had his "base" at Spahn Ranch. You don't have to be 60 years old to use Google. Am I missing something? Because this is obviously an alternate history story. Just like he did with "Inglorious Basterds".
shareI felt the same in Inglorious Basterds because I was born after WWII. I was like “who the hell is this crazy guy with the mustache?” 😉
shareEveryone who knows about Charles Manson knows he had his "base" at Spahn Ranch.
No accounting for taste. Especially shitty taste...
shareYou said it best brother.
Was it bad? No.
Was it good? No.
It was an okay waste of time.
I didn't hurt my lazy Sunday.
It was light years better than friggin' "Avengers: Endgame" (rolling my eyes).
shareDo you think because I thought this film was at best okay, that I can only be entertained by the likes of a Marvel Movie?
shareNo. I apologize for giving that impression.
I was sharing my own experience/perspective, as well as that of my wife: We saw "Avengers: Endgame" at the theater, followed by "X-Men: Dark Phoenix." While both those movies had their points of interest, each ended with the cliched 'big battle' sequence, which was curiously boring. I realize "Dark Phoenix" is reviled for the most part, but "Endgame" is generally gushed over; regardless, the third acts of both left a lot to be desired. And so my wife & I jokingly swore off superhero flicks (not really, but we needed at least half a year break and "Joker" didn't really qualify as a superhero movie). So when we saw "Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood" at the theater it was so refreshing by comparison.
It may not be on the level of "Pulp Fiction" or "Django Unchained," and it needed tightened up here & there (there's some filler), but it has several great or near-great scenes and myriad entertaining bits throughout; not to mention it had the confidence to take its time (like most Tarantino flicks). My grade: 8/10
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