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Dark Fate is #2 biggest box office bomb of 2019


https://deadline.com/2020/04/box-office-bombs-2019-list-1202918753/

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And...?
Did you watch it? If not, not even sure why you would care.

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MY SENTIMENTS,EXACTLY.

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Unless you're a studio head, box office doesn't matter, period. The only reason why you'd make a post about something flopping is to stir up a fight about something you don't care about with people who do. In the process, you sacrifice a discussion you could have had. Instead OP just destroys their own credibility.

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Sorry but Deadline is a major news site so the fact its reporting that T6 is #2 biggest bomb of the year is more than enough reason to make a post (I'm a huge Terminator fan and I didn't realise it had bombed that bad)

And box office does matter as it determines if the series continues or not (or how it continues if it does)

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Important to you, I guess. Did you like the movie?

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It was ok. I'd consider it best of the post T2 sequels although I think I enjoyed Genisys more at the time (but not now)

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Genisys had some big problems. I do remember liking it overall, but what they did with John in that movie what really unappealing. It also didn't make me want to want it again, and I never did. I'd watch Dark Fate again.

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At the time I was enjoying the Genisys 1984 stuff (mainly due to never having seen T1 in the cinema) but viewing it again the movie is pretty unwatchable. Looking forward to watching Dark Fate on blu when I eventually get it

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I just watched this last week. As long as T Gen isn't taken too seriously, it's a fun alternate timeline, but was totally miscast.

Any time they get too creative with John's character they make a wrong turn - bad in T Gen and downright terrible in DF. I liked most parts of Salvation and wished they had finished that trilogy, but also glad that they didn't turn John into a cyborg as was the original intention.

But getting back to DF - it was a travesty and wrong in so many ways. I saw it in the theater the week after it's release, but by then I knew what I was getting into. I haven't watched it since. At some point I might but I really don't know if I can get past the opening scene.

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The way I see it, the way they dealt with John in DF was the only way they could go given the premise. If they wanted to follow up T2 directly, and have Linda Hamilton reprise her role, it needed to be set when it was set. Linda looks good, but not good enough to age down 20 years for the whole movie. They needed to push John out of the way early, because using a CG John throughout the movie would have been way worse. The way it is now, the illusion of young John is upheld with really good CG, only because he doesn't speak onscreen. That's the only way to get away with it.

A better move, to keep John in the picture, would have just been to recast him, but that would have pissed people off too. You can't please everybody, but I personally liked the way the did it. It was focused on Sarah as the main arc, with John as a motivating factor. For me, it was always about her story.

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OH...YOURE ONE OF THOSE "THE FILM FAILED BEFORE IT SHOT CAUSE THEY KILLED JOHN" TYPES....ANOTHER INCARNATION OF JOHN CONNOR WOULD HAVE BEEN BEYOND RIDICULOUS...DARK FATE'S ONLY CHANCE WAS ELIMINATING THE GUY.

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From the article:

”The return of Cameron as producer brought back Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger, and there were some good ideas here in a Terminator with three female leads that seemed a strong fit in a #MeToo moment.”


Why does NO ONE in the media EVER acknowledge that the overtly feminist aspect of these traditionally male targeted action film franchises could be hurting them at the box office??? It makes me insane how they completely ignore this fact, and they even go out of their way to say the exact opposite and make up other reasons that films like this continue to fail, like they are on such a mission to say that changing everything from male to female has no effect on box office returns. I’m not even saying it’s right or wrong, but it has an effect.

It’s EXACTLY the same with the media CONSTANTLY saying in article after article that ratings for televised awards show ceremonies completely tanking has nothing to do with actors constantly beating politics over everyone’s heads in their acceptance speeches. They are so full of shit, and they wonder why most of the country doesn’t have any trust in the media anymore. Much like the government, they’ve earned every bit of distrust they get. It’s completely warranted.

It will not kill feminism to write that turning action movie franchises into feminist preachfests will hurt the box office return. That is why a lot (not all) of these movies are tanking.

Why can’t people simply tell the truth anymore???

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