Pure Propaganda
Everyone involved need to bow their head in shame including all those fake 10 ratings on IMDB.
Propaganda for what?
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Propaganda for accepting the American invation of the M-East. "these people are animales" Jake Gyllenhaal utters.
shareLive as a woman under sharia law and you will see that animals abound.
shareLive as a black person in the USA from it's inception to EVEN today and you'll also see how prevalent the animals are!
shareI'm sorry. I thought we were talking about the middle east.
shareThat's incredibly racist. You shouldn't be comparing black people to animals.
sharecomparing blacks to animal monkeys has got to stop, and i am asking you as a stranger to not compare them to animal monkeys,
it's incredibly rude
Stop being a victim, it's fucking 2023!!! Does racism exist in the US? Yes. Is it as big of an issue as people like you would like to make it? No! Get the fuck outa here with this bullshit already!
shareWhy would you care about sharia law? Live in here in America where your email, web searches, your news is constantly monitored and filtered. Live here in a country without freedom🤷♂️
shareIt was relevant to the thread, as opposed to your responses.
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wasnt that line referring to the taliban? i think you are projecting it onto the whole middle east, which is just plain wrong.
shareYou mean the people who were torturing prisoners???
shareI thought that was possibly a cheap line but it applied to the workers building bombs in an IED factory, not a particular race or ethnicity.
shareYou dont know what propaganda is or what you are talking about...
shareDamn Right!
shareHe quotes one line then declares the film is propaganda. Propaganda about what? He doesnt say. The overall message of the film it true, the US fucked over a bunch of translators/interpreters by hanging them out to dry. This a fact and it is not in dispute.
shareYou'd be hard-pressed to find ANY board on this site that doesn't have at least one post about said film being "propoganda" for whoever.
Most people don't realize that telling a story doesn't automatically = propaganda.
So they make a post about whatever film they last watched being "propaganda" while they simultaneously lap up the ACTUAL propaganda they're too jaded to notice they've been spoonfed.
Hopefully we will invade Iran, Norway & Saudi Arabia next. Only to bring peace in the region. Guy Ritchie's the Covenant only showed much much peace we brought with us. As a nation , we are the elite in peacekeeping.
shareAlthough I agree with you through your sarcasm this film was not about that and it's one of the reasons I like it so much. There was no attempt to take a political stance or preach a message one way or the other. It was just a simple story about honor among men. You dont have to agree with the war to like this movie, in fact I dont think it was good for anyone except those in positions of power and that make money off of the war. No one gave a shit about the Taliban until after 9/11 and using that as the justification is a whole nother rabbit hole.
shareThe invasion of Afghanistan was warranted, although staying for over 20 years was not.
shareNo it wasn't.
US loves going to war look at the countries history it can't do without it.
For them it's about taking others resources but putting false spin on it to make out they are good guys.
I kind of agree with you, but I think Afghanistan was the exception, as they gave Al Qaeda a safe haven before 9/11. Again though, we stayed way too long and the Afghans blew the chance we gave them and now they're back to square one.
shareYou don't invade a country because they harbor a terrorist organization. The USA should invade itself every year, then!
shareDo we really need someone else to tell us we are right, when we know what is right and what is wrong? The very answer is within is when we are born. The other answers are taught to us after the fact.
shareIt's definitely propaganda - though it's also a well made film - which is why I think you are off the mark regarding this film's ratings/reviews.
And yes, the best propaganda is made out of the better films. Propaganda does not equal bad films, but it does equal a lot of BS being sold as reality.
In theory, this film lost a lot of money (Budget 55 mill, while box office 17 mill), but given that it's a pentagon-funded propaganda, I don't think box office matters that much, since the whole purpose of the film is to increase the enlistment numbers and provide positive PR for the US army.
Any time you see real modern US military gear/vehicles in a film, it's funded by the pentagon.
https://www.military.com/off-duty/how-hollywood-films-get-us-military-co-star.html
I have rather mixed feelings about the pentagon funding hollywood films - they mix reality with BS, making the US military tech/soldiers appear better than they actually are. Furthermore, there's also the psychological aspect of these films that's troubling - since these movies give the US appearance of a good guy - in good vs. evil fight. Yet, it is often the case that the opposite is the truth - so LOL on that point.
Great Post! Thank you
shareso how comes the overall message of this film is
"The USA fucked over thousands of interpreters and left them to die" ?
that hardly good propaganda.
Those government funded pictures are the mother load for most film makers and studios. No cost is too high. Everything is covered and army / military assistance is granted.
Peter Berg stated as much in the past.