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No LATINOS, No Support. Bronx population in the 70's


I had a feeling, the people behind this project would not cast a young male Latino. It’s tough having to watch these films that re-write history. I felt because it was released on Netflix, they wouldn’t have to cater to middle America’s perception of disregarding the other ethnicity present. As someone who knows a bit about the 1970’s population in the Bronx, I wrote to the creators that it should have a Latino presence. Legendary actor Jimmy Smits has a role as a dad, which is dope. I know the Australian creator wouldn't know the population of the Bronx in 1970 but the 13 writers which only had 1 Latina, had to see how diverse it was by watching “The Warriors”.
Media reports Latinos are the largest population of minorities, in the country and as the movie going public. I’m just not understanding why Latinos are not on the screen. When it comes to these films based on Urban subject matters, I’m always wondering where is the kind like me? We heard of the term "WhiteWashing" but is black wash a thing? Now, when I hear diversity, I’m only seeing these projects adding a Black role and it’s diverse. I wonder if it’s because Hollywood is like, “Hey, if we don’t we’ll get heat for it” like Seinfeld received for not having Black comics in the 1st season of “Comedians Getting Coffee…”
Black “Annie”, “Karate Kid” and “Human Torch” are empowering and great for the youth to see, ALL YOUTH. I’ve auditioned for roles and coincidentally the ones i get are the panels that have Latino behind the project. Most of the time they’re passion projects that don't get much exposure. Tyler Perry, Ron Howard, please make a role for a Latino like the one I seen in the film “DOPE”. That character didn’t have any of the stereotypes of “Latino” I’m use to seeing and I Loved it. I marched when White people played Latinos in the “Perez Family” 20 yrs ago. I don’t want to see Latin versions of Jim Carrey or Kevin Hart, just good talent who are role models to kids Donald Trump doesn’t want in this country.
I love that Wayans gave Chris Rock a role and that Martin Lawrence helped Tracy Morgan. However, I’m starting to believe John Lequizamo and Ruben Blades, who have long careers don’t have that power cause some of you guys reading this may not even know who they are. Maybe their isn’t that mentality of helping someone among Latin actors because I can’t think of one Jennifer Lopez brought up. All this fuss America made about a Black Stormtrooper and not a peep about (Oscar Isaac) a Latino one. Oscar Isaac believes because he dropped “Hernandez” as his last name that he gets cast in non typical Latino roles. That may not be nuts to you but it kinda sucks to have to drop your families name, but it Hollywood.
Back to this film, if it’s about Black kids coming up, awesome. If it’s about the “Makings of Hip Hop”, based on the culture I lived. Along with the prominent Latinos in the documentary films like “Rubble Kings” and “Fresh Dressed”, then this is wrong. I’m not trying to put peg races against each other. I just want my daughter to pull strength from role models that look like her, who aren’t the love interest, which seems to be the only role for a Latina. I feel like the film industry cant black ball Latinos cause they don’t barely acknowledge us.

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I feel you man. The predominant faces of Hip Hop during that area were mainly Blacks from the inception of the culture with Kool Herc, Flash, Afrika Islam, Bambatta, Jazzy Joyce, Hollywood, Starski and etc. However as few years from there, you got a lot of Latinos from the South Bronx that held it down with Charlie Chase, Crazy Legs and Lee. I think a better sample of the South Bronx around the era this show is taking place should be Wild Style.

I think the main leads will be Blacks, but, there'll great a many Latino characters in the show, because, that was accurate of the history of the culture. It will be a sin to count Latinos out, since they were part of scene from the get go. I only could wish they expand the later years of Hip Hop, so some Asians could come into the scene via DJing and Bboying.

Here's hoping that the people they have as consultant will drop some jewels on the producer/creators.

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It's not a documentary. You people are ridiculous.

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He is just making a comment and a suggestion on his take. If you can't bring anything to the table, go somewhere else and play. It's obviously the show is a work of fiction based on that era, but, there has to be some grounds to it too. If not, then anything to could be anything based on not being a documentary. Your type of people's thinking and reasoning is feeble as hell.

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Ridiculous like white washing Tyler Perry movies? The only latino in the new Jurassic movie had no lines and was killed first. A film based in Central America off the island of Coasta Rica doesnt make sense to me. Asians, Blacks and Whites. I think i even seen a gay dinosaur. Sorry had to be "Ridiculous".

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no. jurassic park island was a private island owned by a rich british guy. no one who worked at the park was native to the island. it just happened to be near costa rica.

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What are you talking about? The lead female is Hispanic.

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Dude. I totally understand your gripe but in this case, there's not even a dent put in the amount of cast that is involved with the show MANY of them being Latinos. It is the South Bronx. It would be impossible to have a show about music in the 70s, in the South Bronx without Latinos. Just know that all cast is not listed until the thing is actually shot and airing.

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Every latino character in a movie is a female. The sexy chick, Check. Its become a thing

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Esposito, Smits, Guardiola?

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Just wanted to make an note Esposito is of Italian decent not Latino (as in Hispanic).

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@draconius25

Yeah, he's black and Italian (and I've always thought he was smoking hot, as well as being a great actor) but he's been cast a Latino at least one other time I can think of. Cool to see both him and Smits up in this show.

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Univision just showed "In Too Deep" in spanish. I couldnt even think what movie BET would be able to show. But your trying to make this Black and Latino when this is a country build on the theme of White guilt over slavery.

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That was a real gas reading your reply. LMAO. First, to keep it on topic, Jimmy Smits is in it so if I am able to I will watch it. He was great in NYPD Blue and equally great in West Wing. I know, actors are usually only as good as the material given them but, all the same he is fine actor. As to activista, bring it down a decibel or 2. First off you are correct, there is no white guilt. What happened occurred in the past, not to you, and even then, it wasn't me. You are owed nothing. Least of all a spot on a TV show. African American, or blacks, whatever, claim under representation when it is in fact the Hispanic actors who seem to have a point (I.E. they outnumber you). I have no interest in arguing the point with you, cause it would just be more of the same. I would like to say though that Itsdstroy is a much better presenter of his position and he laid out some valid points. You activista, not so much. But your anger was worth a laugh.

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@hm1057


I wasn't trying to be funny (since my post was taken down, for whatever the reason---I've seen worse stuff stay on these boards longer) I was making a point. And who said anything about anybody owing anyone anything? Where the hell did that even come from? Oh, btw, I've seen the show, and I like it, and can't wait to see the rest of it. 'Nuff said.

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Boo. That was corny. Black Latino? You seriously coming with that? I'm actually in a documentary about how Black Latinos dont get any roles. I know the plight well. Stop trying to find a problem with me and not Hollywood. I'm a person and thats a machine designed against us but you might not hear me cause you want to feel like you just said some "drop the mic and walk away" foolishness. You must be the type that finds it funny when black folks make fun of each other for having lighter skin (iceT) or darker skin (wesley snipes) thats not cool. Sofia is always the "donkey chick with tits", you know how much of a tool she is. I know she couldnt get on any other way.

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Not 100% correct but i hear you a bit. The film that inspired this thread is about the bronx in the 70's, made by an Australian. Based off what i know and docs like "Rubble Kings" i find it messed up any version of a latino is not prominent in a film who premise is when Latinos played a major factor. Everything else is just wishing that we were more of an equal society but gotta love Murica.

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Because u latinos don't want nothing to do with black folks until we are apart of something that is successful... just like with the show enpire.. no one cared about "the black show" until it was a surprise hit. Now latina magazine wants to write articles about the lack of latinos in the show.... Black folks don't complain about ur shows not having us in them...

Same thing with our music...u guys weren't down with hip hop at first your parents didnt even want u listening to "black" music. Afro latinos get no respect in the latino ccommunity unless they become hugely successful just look at guys like erislandy lara and gallermo rigandeux... white Cubans wanted nothing to do with them until they started cleaning up their weight divisions... now all of the sudden "latinos" Don't see Them as black but just cuban fighters.. get outta here with that.

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You'll never see clearly with those racial goggles on. In the 1970's when HipHop began it was Latinos and Black folks that were in the burning bronx during its inception. The other stuff youre saying, i cant speak to cause i dont i dentify with that ideology of light skinned latinos hating on dark skinned latinos. Thats donkey sh!t for anyone to be doing. I look like a middle eastern dude, so i dont identify with that negative white latino opression you speak of.
"Black folks dont complain" of course not. Latinos dont have any shows. At least that cater to me. Im born in America, my first love was a black girl and my best friends white. I dont get down with the whole segregation look. I'm just a dude who feels like i accept people that only accept their own. And i be having all peoples backs whatever race. Just would like a "look" for my people, i know theres a talent pool out there. Its not a black latino thing. Together were less than the white population in America so im not fckn with you, if you thinking we gotta chew each other up to "win"

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I don't see things through "racial goggles" (WTF?).. YOU. in your first post claimed that blacks are "blackwashing" latinos.. which is complete BS because the creators of the show are white...

I don't have a problem with Latinos.. and I know they were there during hip hop's first stages. But they STILL came AFTER black folks had formed and established it. A black man from Jamaica created the foundation for hip hop music by extending the breaks on SOUL records. Latinos at that time were encouraged by their parents or the generation before them to listen to latino/salsa music and NOT black/soul music.. it was the younger generation of latinos who started to break away from that and got into the hip hop scene. Again. I acknowledge that you were there but yall came a AFTER black folks had already done it..

These things are documented in various books and movies...

My response was that you guys only want ANYTHING to do with black folks is when you feel it's convienent for you to.

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Prince Whipper Whip, Tony Tone, Devastating Tito, Lee Quiñones, Crazy Legs and Charlie Chase. Tho not super known were at hiphops inception. Even Bambaataa says it in interviews. Look at the footage you speak of from those days. Look at Wildstyle, the lead is Rican. And BeatStreet had an Italian play a Rican.

I know the term BlackWash caught your attention, but I didnt say Black People vs. Everybody. I probably was missconstrude in my opening letter. To your Latinos werent there in the beginning statement, theres a new doc. called "rubble kings" where Latinos were in the bx when hiphop started, fighting in gangs. No one was listening to their parents in the early 70's in nyc. It was a mess here. I was a member of zulu nation, marched against Reagan and tried to re establish the YoungLords. Its not me against you, i'm just hoping generations to come feel the acceptance I didnt feel in our American society

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I'll say this I agree they shouldn't leave latinos out...but to point the blame at blacks as the ones writing latinos out of history is ridiculous. My post were reactionary from that, but you're right.

A huge reason why latinos don't get the props they deserve from mainsteram America is that those other elements in hip hop peaked much faster and "died" out. It's crazy to think about how mainstream Breaking was at one point.... so the only aspect that is around that casual folks now about is the music... and even that is on it's last leg. There will never be another Criminal Minded album ever again.

Loove The Bottle like Tyson loves Cus D'Amatoooo"
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Because u latinos don't want nothing to do with black folks until we are apart of something that is successful


100% agree. If the show was based on the negative stereotypes of rap you wouldn't hear a peep from anybody about not being included. Hiphop was started by blacks and black people have always been the people taking the full brunt of the criticism for hiphop. People of other ethnicities always want to be able to be one foot in on the fun black stuff and have their other foot already out the door just in case the bad stuff happens.

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100% agree. If the show was based on the negative stereotypes of rap you wouldn't hear a peep from anybody about not being included. Hiphop was started by blacks and black people have always been the people taking the full brunt of the criticism for hiphop. People of other ethnicities always want to be able to be one foot in on the fun black stuff and have their other foot already out the door just in case the bad stuff happens.
True!

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You tell jimmy smits to his face he's not latino and watch what happens!

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Amen!!! @plopplopfizzfizzz

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