Blue Ruin contained some the "best" most visceral violence I have seen in a long time. It truly shocked me at times in how realistic it was. Is Green Room on the same level? If not worse?
shareIt probably tops Blue Ruin, easily, in terms of graphicness.
Fine, fine, I'll leave! But first I'm going to bother these peanuts! Hmm? Yes? Hmm? HMM?
This movie makes blue ruin look tame to be honest.
shareWow, it tops the bathroom stabbing and head shot in Blue Ruin?
can. not. wait.
Though the box cutter makes me nervous, nothing really phases me when it comes to violence anymore, but for some reason any violent scene involving razors/box cutters makes me squirm. And my wrists throb. Nervous on how it will be used, but bring it.
Yeah not going to spoil it but one of the early scenes in particular involves three acts of violence one right after another one of which involves a box cutter, got some strong reactions from the crowd, and I'm sure you have heard of the arm scene to an extent and that will stick with me for a long time. The funny thing is that's just when it gets started lol. I personally loved it, the tension for me at least was very strong and I had sweaty palms non stop after the first 20 minutes or so.
shareI get that it's very violent but does the movie contain any scenes of rape or torture? My wife is on the fence about seeing it and won't go see it if there are scenes of rape and/or torture.
shareThere's no sexual violence of any kind, and no gratuitous torture as well.
Doesn't mean it's easy to watch though.
Fine, fine, I'll leave! But first I'm going to bother these peanuts! Hmm? Yes? Hmm? HMM?
Thanks, I'll pass this info on to the wife. I'll probably be seeing this one alone.
shareThere's no sexual content of any sort in this movie. As far as torture goes I wouldn't call it torture. If your wife can't handle violence then I don't see her enjoying this movie, it's very graphic and realistic and the violence sticks with you.
shareThanks all. We ended up seeing together a few nights ago. I probably didn't explain well enough that my wife and I aren't averse to violence or gore, in fact we both love horror movies. We're just generally not a fan of the more gonzo horror that started coming out in the Saw era. Although that era seems to be dying down in favor of ghost stories recently.
Anyhow, back to Green Room. It was actually far more tame than I was expecting based on what I'd read about it. All of the violence seemed very purposeful and nothing was gratuitously gory. The violence was realistic and not violence for the sake of violence.
Neither my wife or I were turned off or shocked by the amount or level of violence and gore in the movie. I was hesitant going in because I was expecting Saw or Hostel levels of gore and violence which probably would have resulted in my wife walking out but instead we both thoroughly enjoyed the movie.
How'd you like the close up of the pitt bull eating the guy's jugular?
That was f#%ked up.
I was pleasantly surprised by this. There wasn't even the threat of sexual violence. Not even a suggestion.
It was "nice", for once, for the female characters to be just under the normal threat level the male characters were without that added element.
So far was this film from that scenario that the lead bad guy repeatedly addresses our group collectively as " Gentlemen...."
Agree completely on the sweaty palms man. This was the first movie in such a long time that gave me that reaction.
sharethe scene that was most graphic for me was when dude got opened up with the boxcutter and how the one guy got stabbed soon as he got outside. the excitement from the person who stabbed him was disturbing.
sharebesides the arm scene, nothing you havent seen before.
shareAre the kills on screen
shareNo - all happen so far offscreen, that they actually occur in a different movie. So, in order to fully appreciate this, you have to first watch this movie, and then watch Muriel's Wedding to actually see all the kills. Also, in the end, it turns out to be a dream that the drummer was having.
What's going on? What's all this shouting? We'll have no trouble here...
It made me think of the very first saw movie (brutal and grim but the violence is off screen for the most part)
shareviolence is off screen for the most part
What? Most of the violence happens on screen.
Come at the king, you best not miss.
You guys are sick. Why would you enjoy seeing gore?
shareIf it's a film like dead alive then it's over the top and funny, in this films case it's done in such a way that is much more effective and chilling, plus the practical gore effects are impressive.
shareYeah, I've always wondered the same thing. I couldn't watch something like this and feel good or happy coming out of it. There are some seriously messed up individuals among us. Some things just don't need to be seen. Especially with all the real violence happening around the world.
shareDude, it's make believe. Anton Yelchin's performance wouldn't be so shocking and raw if I didn't see what he is reacting too. I wouldn't be so terrified of Patrick Stewart if I didn't know what he was doing. Most of the violence is only flashed on the scream for a micro-second. Just enough time for you to see it and for it to affect you. But it glorifies nothing. It romanticizes nothing. There are no slow-motion murders. You want to see glorified violence aimed at numbing the masses, go watch a Zach Snyder movie. I mean what are you even doing in this thread discussing violence in a movie that is obviously about Punks fighting for their lives against Neo-Nazis. You obviously don't care about seeing an auteur filmmaker creating a fantastic film with wonderful acting, a fun score, and an emotionally moving premise. You probably don't care to look into the deeper premise regarding the death of the original punk scene due to the trifecta of drug use, inter-cultural violence, and over-marketization.
I mean, you probably hate Hamlet too, right? All that senseless violence? Everyone dying?
That's exactly what doesn't make sense. You want it to be as realistic as possible, but if you saw this in real life, all of a sudden it becomes a problem. It's not about the fact that it's fake, it's about the fact that a real murder scene doesn't look much different. There's just as much violence in a Bond movie (probably more scenes overall) but it's the fact that it's not focused on the violence and the way they go about showing it that it isn't as much of a problem. As a harder example, the violence in the newest Rambo is rather extreme, but it's action violence, not horror violence that makes it easier to watch. You want the bad guys to die because they're terrible people. I don't know if I've done a sufficient job explaining what I'm thinking. Either way, each to their own.
If I were going to add anything, I guess it would be the fact that people ask how brutal it is, and then say "Can't wait!" Only seeing it to watch people suffer and scream in agony is what I was referring to in my original post. If you want to go to watch it for the story, that's quite different (even though there are quite a lot of other movies to watch for their story which don't involve as much of the added detail).
I've never seen or read Hamlet, but I can only imagine it falls into the not-focused-on-violence category.
And to answer your question, someone posted a link about the movie on my Facebook page stating that it had the most brutal scenes, so I thought I'd come have a look at how bad it sounds. I watched Eli Roth's(?) most recent one that was based on the tribe in the jungle because my roommate put it on. If it's anything like that then I'm probably not interested in seeing it.
Calling everybody else sick but says he'd rather watch rambo mowing people in half with machine guns than this. You are missing the point people are making. People appreciate the violence in movies like this because it doesn't glamorize it or numb you to it. You feel every little freaking thing that the characters go through. It shows you just how bad extreme violence and murder are and it condemns it. As opposed to the newest rambo where he just kills like a hundred mindless robots and you feel nothing for them.
sharePeople don't just watch films to be happy you know. I mean if people went to watch the film just because it is gory then they are *beep* up but just because it is ultra violent does not mean people who watched are *beep* *beep* heads. I have seen some of the most brutal films and i don't have joy watching it. Film is not just enjoyment.
shareAgreed.
Green Room has some gore but it wasn't there to titillate or 'thrill'... it was there to communicate the gravity of the situation, to show the punches were not being pulled. It increased the tension where, often, the gore in horror movies releases it by being ridiculously excessive and not realistic.
The violence that DOES bother me is the casual and anonymous sort you get in action movies and stuff like James Bond... large numbers of anonymous mooks getting blown away to make the 'hero' look cool while being in no real danger... whereas even the survivors in Green Room were pretty badly wounded and traumatized by the end.
Not very violent, some graphic scenes but carefully distributed. Nothing too violent, imo.
Aint nothing like a black napkin
to show up a little ol white maggot
Im a squeamish person and it wasnt as bad as I thought it would be. Only one box cutter scene got me. Along the same lines as Blue Ruin. Full of tension so maybe I forgot some of it in the moment.
shareHow effing stupid are the A$$hole$ who are in charge of the movie ratings board? They seriously do not think the movie rating system needs to be fixed when a movie like this has the exact same "rating" as Tom Hanks's HOLOGRAM FOR A KING.
Can someone explain to me how Hologram for a king would traumatize a child as much as Green Room?
No explaining needed, R is restricted for everyone under the age of 17 no children in that group, however, if a parent takes their six year old to see this they're a moron.
shareThats why the rating system needs to be updated. Ultraviolent movies like this, or Hills have eyes or Hostel or Hannibal Lector movies for example should have an "R 13" rating, something I made up. If a movie has an R13 rating which is very different form PG13 no child under age 13 is allowed in AT ALL even if the parent brings them, and if the child is 13 to 16 the parent can bring them and at 17 they can see it alone.
But REGULAR R rated movies that have swearing, nudity and generic violence (like gangster films) would still be the regular rated R
There needs to be 2 different "tiers" of R rating or the NC17 rating needs to apply to ultraviolent movies not just soft core porn.
Creator -
Watch this documentary about the MPAA. Not sure if you're from the US or not, but even if you're not, it's a very fascinating look into the way the films we watch are heavily scrutinized and censored by a bunch of bureaucratic weenies.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493459/?mode=desktop&ref_=m_ft_dsk
lol Wish I could uprate your comment - bureaucratic weenies indeed!
The value judgments of the MPAA rating system are absurd, and I live in the U.S. so have been dealing with this thing for nearly 50 years. Why is it we can show dozens, even hundreds, of people getting killed by gun or monster or superhero violence and it earns a PG-13, while three uses of the word "*beep*" or a sexual scene showing nipples or butts earns an R? It's ridiculous. They should both be PG-13 unless it's truly graphic violence or graphic sex. But be consistent.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High was R rated because Jennifer Jason Leigh and Phoebe Cates showed their breasts and the characters uttered the word "*beep*" a couple of times, but that is a movie every 14 or 15 year old should see. It makes no sense that Fast Times would have the same rating as Green Room.
I haven't seen Blue Ruin yet but there is a lot of blood in this. Not only do people graphically get shot but necks get chewed on and hands get hacked off. It's a good movie for gore dude.
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