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Mickey is underrated, and def 'dating down'


As an instant fan/binge watcher of the show I am left disappointed at Mickey's opinion of herself, and even more disappointed by her choice in men, both past and present. We all have our flaws/demons, but she really is a good (also hilarious) person who is just having trouble expressing her feelings and opening up to Gus, who is not at all as patient and grateful as he should be. Girls like Mickey don't come around often, and when they do you might not get a second chance. Anyway, that is just one man's opinion. Feel free to chime in with your own take. FYI - If you call her a whore I will gladly fight you here or in real life :p

P.S. Seriously though she reminds me of a TV-MA version of Pamela Beesley from The Office

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I think I'm more on the side of Gus.

Mickey messed with him from the beginning. Invited him to a party, blew,him off etc.

She was such a downer on their date at the magic show. Even if she didn't like magic, she could have been good sport and just been happy to be with Gus. I've been on dates I hated before but still used manners and respect toward my date. The second time they had sex she was kind of rude about using her vibrator..she have the impression Gus wasn't getting her off..which I'm sure would be really embarrassing for him. Again, she could have communicated with him instead of being rude.

Then she shows up at his song party and is a downer there too..she finds fault with everything he does.

I don't blame Gus for growing distant with her. She's a downer and rude and never can relax and have a good time. She's also an addict and addicts are extremely frustrating to deal with

She needs to get her crap together before she dates anyone.

As far as Gus being fake nice, I don't think so. He was hurt by Bertie's text at the party and responded.

Having sex with another girl right after Mickey was kind of shady but he and Mickey werent an item at that point and Mickey was giving him mixed signals.

Gus meltdown at work made sense to me too..he was overwhelmed by what had happened with mickey and was now in a big work position and he was feeling pressure,to do well. Seeing that only the story line was used in his script pushed him over the edge and his coworkers attitudes didn't help anything either. They were very condescending. Someone could have explained why his ideas weren't good and gave him feedback on how to improve instead of glaring at him and rolling their eyes.

Mickey started to like Gus after he pushed her away.

It's almost like she did everything she could to,sabotage everything with Gus then he was over her shxt and mind games she wanted him back.

The true fake nice person was the Canadian chick..she was awful in the end

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I agree with 99% of what you said.

I don't have a problem with her being comfortable enough around Gus to finish herself with vibrator, however, but that's probably the last thing a guy like Gus would need after a date that went so poorly. She definitely should have read the room better and suggested that in a nicer way. I'm sure he would have been fine with it. At that point he was just happy to be on the team.

... and Mickey was giving him mixed signals.


If I had gotten those signals from my first date with someone I would leave her place thinking "She had an awful time and probably won't want to go out with me ever again."

I don't think Mickey realizes how rude she's being most of the time. She's probably used to people putting up with it b/c she's pretty.

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I have to disagree. If you think Mickey is underrated, (other than underrating herself), I'm afraid you might be the kind of guy who is attracted to women who will treat them poorly. I started off having an equal opinion of Mickey & Gus, but Mickey really lost me in the 8th and 9th episodes by being so rude to Gus right after they did it. She just hates everything and can't censor herself at all even to spare his feelings who she claims to really like. Then she keeps showing up at his place and his office unannounced. And she treats her roommate like *beep* too. Oh, and she lost her cat because she's so self-involved. She didn't even know where the animal shelter was down the street. Then when he came back, she didn't even want to hold him. She was already back into herself again. She's a pretty awful, self-centered person.

I would say they're both a mess, but she is by far a more awful mess.

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I have to disagree. If you think Mickey is underrated, (other than underrating herself), I'm afraid you might be the kind of guy who is attracted to women who will treat them poorly.


I've dated a Mickey and while there were some incredibly fun times there were far more frustrating ones and in the end it was not worth it. Luckily I didn't waste too much time on that relationship.

Mickey really lost me in the 8th and 9th episodes by being so rude to Gus right after they did it. She just hates everything and can't censor herself at all even to spare his feelings who she claims to really like. Then she keeps showing up at his place and his office unannounced.


Very well put, although I'm sure someone will blame Gus for all that.

I would say they're both a mess, but she is by far a more awful mess.


They certainly shouldn't be in a relationship together (or with anyone) right now. Gus is a bit more stable, but someone like Mickey could wreck that in a hurry.

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Agreed..not many people would put up with such mixed signals as sending Mickey giving Gus. She's clearly a very troubled woman, and needs to sort herself out before dating anyone.

Someone mentioned Gus was clingy like Mickey at the end..when he was sending her texts all,evening..but then she had went off with another man to get high and didn't even make much of an effort to get in touch with Gus. She sent him a text that didn't go through but when they finally did meet up she wasn't really sorry about it..another mixed signal.

Gus is a mess as well..low self esteem and unfulfilling job..but he's steps ahead of Mickey in my eyes as being a more decent person.

He always treated her with kindness and respect, and she basically crapped all over him every chance she got.

He should move on and find someone better suited for him

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He always treated her with kindness and respect, and she basically crapped all over him every chance she got.


Exactly. And how did they meet? Gus offered to pay for a complete stranger's (Mickey's) coffee. So from the get go she was "streets behind" in the kindness department.

+2 for me for getting a Community reference about Mickey (Gillian Jacobs aka Britta).

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Mickey is a disaster. Gus is a disaster. The bad behavior of one does not negate or excuse the bad behavior of the other.

At the end of the day, I like and sympathize with both characters and hope for the best for them, but for me the best is not them getting together, but both seeking out help and a better understanding of themselves.

The magic show was a metaphor for their equally flawed views of their relationship. He is willing to blindly enjoy letting himself be tricked as long as it comes with showmanship and an appealing package and she is constantly looking for the trick and the attached strings rather than just trying to enjoy things.

"Call me in about a week."
"So it could be cancer? Hey, doc. You don't be a stranger either."

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To the user above me^
Pretty good analogy, and so darn true.

I don't see how people are so quick to take sides, and put the blame on one part. The two characters are both flawed in so many ways, Mickey being the most obvious one, in this dysfunctional relationship. Gus is a flawed character but in a less noisy more subtle kind of way, compared to Mickey. What they each got from their past relationships was that they both needed something new and different. What they both truly need, is to become something different and grow something new within themselves.

Why did their past relationships go so badly? And why do we get a sense that these two individuals are actually quite miserable? One is better at hiding it than the other. You can do the guessing of who. They are stuck doing the same mistakes over and over again, without learning, without growing. The date at the magic castle gives us a pretty good idea of how they probably acted in their past relationships. They are both selfish, with no respect and mutual understanding of the other half.

Mickey is a chill, laidback girl, but she also does not know how to enjoy herself, without drugs or alcohol. She has strong opinions about everything and she says what she thinks and feels without any filter and consideration to the people around her.

Gus is a little more trickier, as his philosophical of life is: "be nice and quirky, and you can get away with everything". He is perhaps a nice guy, but he is socially awkward and has a hard time relating to other people. Not to mention that he struggles with insecurities, and to put it bluntly, the dude has no personality. He is just simply nice.

These two come from two different worlds. None of them has tried changing or growing, and they both seem to be stuck in a somewhat rut. Wonder why..? When not even being able to understand and respect people that were more similar to them in their ex-relationships, how in the world are these two individuals supposed to understand a whole different world, with each other? These two are basically always used to doing their own thing, never changing or adapting, just out and about. They never stop to think that they themselves are part of the problem. The difference between Gus and Mickey there? At least Mickey knows she is a *beep* up, but lacks the determination and ambition to change. Gus on the other hand, is living in this disillusionment and own bubble. As long as he is nice people will like him and notice him, he doesn't need to change, because he thinks he is not being the problem, it's everyone else. He is just being nice...

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Not really. Guys who have everything going for them don't tolerate chicks like Mickey. They don't have to. Mickey will only attract flawed, desperate men.

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Or someone who is not intimidated or scared of dating a "complicated" woman. Is that a "flawed" man? Gee, you must be the perfect guy who gets a lot of dates at the gym.




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