Dear George, We are Sorry. We want you Back....NOW!
Ok, I'm as guilty as the next guy for trashing the prequels somewhat. But these aberrations are bizarre and unwanted.
Can we please get George involved again?
Ok, I'm as guilty as the next guy for trashing the prequels somewhat. But these aberrations are bizarre and unwanted.
Can we please get George involved again?
This is his revenge for having to take so much shit for the prequel trilogy.
He's like "Oh yeah? You thought my films were bad? Stay tuned"
Pretty much. I love the prequels but now I can only laugh at the prequel haters that are begging for Lucas to come back. z
This is what you get for bashing his shit.
The dude was off the rails, just look at Indy 4 and the Special Editions. Memes have brought the prequels back from being hated, but they are not great films. His creative energy and sense died a long time ago. Disney sucking even worse does not absolve him from his own BS. People are so quick to forget...
shareIt's not forgetting. It's comparing.
The prequels were quite shitty, and that's true. But not everything about it was bad: the TV series was quite good, actually. Best material in the franchise since the original trilogy.
But above everything: the worst you could say about the prequels is that they were not good. That seemed really bad at the time, though it happened to be far from it. The new movies are not only bad: they're selling some kind of religious message about that new religion of diversity and feminism.
It worse that being bad: they have transformed the franchise in religious movies. And that just feels dirty.
People are absolutely forgetting the shit George did, and that he's old and there is literally zero chance of him coming back. He likely wouldn't have made the films anyway, as fans disliking the films were only one reason he gave - he simply did not want to spend the rest of his years on another SW project.
People are clearly looking through rose-tinted glasses at the past, and if Disney knows what's best, they will jettison KK and put Dave Filoni in charge of the creative process. We don't need Lucas, we need someone new who knows what the fuck they're doing, not some hanger-on producer with zero creativity like Kathleen Kennedy.
Of course people are looking through rose-tinted glasses the prequels. Starve for a week, and you'll look through rose-tinted glasses a damn plate of spinach. That shows how awful are the modern movies. It's not about nostalgia, too recent for that.
And firing KK will change nothing. That's the thing with religious movies. You can change the producer, or the director, it won't matter: they keep being the same shitty religious movies. Are you gonna blame the producers for every shitty Christian movie in the book being shitty?.
It's just the genre (and there's very VERY few exceptions. I can think Quo Vadis, Ben-Hur, and that's it. Obviously the new Star Wars movies are not in that group of "black swan religious movies" that happened to be good).
Maul, I'm having difficulty imagining what "shit" George Lucas did. What could it possibly be? His desire to bring his OT up-to-date? No. The Prequels? No. What is it then, smarty?
Also, are you saying that Lucas had "zero creativity"? Wow, you're stupid. Let's put you in the dunce class! :D
Maybe you should read my posts, dipshit. Here, I'll copy them just for your retarded ass:
"The dude was off the rails, just look at Indy 4 and the Special Editions. Memes have brought the prequels back from being hated, but they are not great films. His creative energy and sense died a long time ago. Disney sucking even worse does not absolve him from his own BS. People are so quick to forget...
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Don't forget what George did to the OT with his ridiculous Special Editions, and how we STILL don't have the originals on Blu-ray or even DVD ffs. I will never forgive him for that, and having to sit through Jedi Rocks and fking Vader screaming "noooo" at the end of ROTJ, among other horrendous changes...
This was the same guy who spoke against altering films in 1988, and the fact that he didn't even offer both versions (and in fact the originals might not even be preserved), is unforgivable.
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Seriously? George absolutely wanted to bury them, like I said we don't even know if the original films are preserved - Lucas did everything in his power to essentially delete them from history. He couldn't provide the original prints when asked by the National Film Registry.
At least he tried to improve them? Improve them all you want, but don't literally force that version on the fans who love Star Wars because of the ORIGINAL films. Don't throw them in the dumpster essentially (which for all we know he did - the prints). Do what every other sane filmmaker does, and offer both versions... not some shitty Laserdisk non-anamorphic scan with no official DVD or Blu-ray release.
Blaming this insane practice that he started and perpetuated on Disney is pure madness. Also, I believe Fox owns the rights for A New Hope now and potentially forever, so who knows what limitations there are."
Don't forget what George did to the OT with his ridiculous Special Editions, and how we STILL don't have the originals on Blu-ray or even DVD ffs. I will never forgive him for that [...] Blaming this insane practice that he started and perpetuated on Disney is pure madness.
Disney has a 4K scan. KK was asked about releasing it, and ZE DIDNT AGREE.
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/star-wars/262552/star-wars-why-disney-wont-release-the-original-theatrical-cuts
"I wouldn’t touch those! Are you kidding? Those will always remain [George Lucas']."
If you want to go by the quote, then they're directing continuing the insane practice that was, in fact, started by George Lucas. Why are you so committed to changing history and acting like Lucas didn't do exactly what he did? I have no reason to talk to someone who denies reality.
Disney owns Star Wars since 2012, but someway Lucas is to blame TOO for whatever Disney decided since that year. Even when Disney has a original theatrical version 4K scan and they decided NOT to release it as a bluray, Lucas is to blame TOO. Because, you know, Lucas. And SJW-Disney is an entity of pure light!! They can't be blamed for their choices!!!
Whatever.
Like I said before, Fox owned the rights to A New Hope up until 6 months ago. 6 months. Lucas has been fucking with the OT since 1996, and here you are blaming Disney for continuing what HE chose to do, and when they had no choice because they didn't own the rights to ANH.
You are fucking delusional, a Lucas apologist. Unable to accept that your savior fucked up on multiple occasions. I don't like Disney, and I don't like Lucas for what he did - you, on the other hand, clearly are biased as hell towards Lucas. Fucking goofball, I'm done communicating with your delusional ass.
Lucas has been fucking with the OT since 1996, and here you are blaming Disney for continuing what HE chose to do
Nope. I'm blaming Disney for what THEY chose to do. They own the franchise since 2012, and they must take responsibility for THEIR own choices.
I know that taking responsibility for your actions is quite a difficult concept for any SJW. The usual behaviour is to pin everything in somebody else. Women don't like STEM? Men are to blame. Some group keeps having a high crime rate? Whites are to blame. Disney shits on Star Wars? Lucas is to blame. Same good old pattern again and again and again. Funny how it applies even here. Old habits die hard, or so it seems.
Lucas can be blamed for what he did in his time. And he was. But after 2012 Disney has made its own choices. And guess what? they must take responsibility for them.
Yeap, I know, tough concept.
Um, must I point out that despite you fanboys loving the OOT, they were NOT EXACTLY what George Lucas intended with his vision? The Special Editions ARE his vision. That's good enough for me.
Holy fucking hell, people like you exist. I mean, I know there's a lot of stupid people out there... but this? Excuse me while I get very far away.
Keep wanking it to George's perfect infallible nature and Jedi Rocks, buddy. Thinking about how glorious his "vision" is probably gives you a hard on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jzZOgLH4KU
You have to be realistic about it, Lucasfilm is in charge of managing the movies, and Lucas himself doesn't want the OOT to exist, and so he chose not to preserve it. I mean, Jedi Rocks is not particularly good, and I could do without the shot of the alien's ugly open mouth complete with drool, but if I remember, the original song wasn't that good neither, very much like Yub Nub, which was thoroughly excised with a more suitable galaxy-wide song of celebration.
The changes are not particularly good (Vader was ruined with the Nooo) but if you want a high-quality, LEGAL, SINGLE version of the films, like I do, the SE's are the only choice. I'm not interested in the numerous dubious fan edits floating around out there - like fan edits of other directors' movies, I'm not interested.
Would Disney ever release the OOT? I doubt it. There's a little issue of the Prequels being there, and even if you excise them from history, the episodes will still be named 4-6. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Empire Strikes Back named Episode 5 from the start?
The special editions of the OT are horrible, yes. Phantom Menace is horrible, yes. AOTC is kinda meh, yes. BUT, Revenge of the Sith is fucking badass and I really love that movie. Its my fav SW movie.
I'd take Lucas over what Disney is doing any day.
And don't forget the Clone Wars series, which is quite good (8.0 in iMDB):
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458290/
Yes, its our fault :) ! Nope, it isnt! SW I was really a weak movie. Yar Yar was horrible and there was no real story at all. But SW II and SW III were good movies. SW III even a very good movie.
But some stupid hardcore fans back then attacked Lucas all the time cause of Yar Yar and cause Han, Luke and Leia werent in this trilogy :) .
And that way we got the worst SW humanly possible :( . Thanks a lot again, hardcore superbrains!
Don't forget what George did to the OT with his ridiculous Special Editions, and how we STILL don't have the originals on Blu-ray or even DVD ffs. I will never forgive him for that, and having to sit through Jedi Rocks and fking Vader screaming "noooo" at the end of ROTJ, among other horrendous changes...
This was the same guy who spoke against altering films in 1988, and the fact that he didn't even offer both versions (and in fact the originals might not even be preserved), is unforgivable.
Disney is having the rights over that material for almost 4 years now. It seems to me time enough to publish the theatrical version from the original trilogy in BluRay.
This can't only blamed on Lucas. At least he tried to improve them (though he was wrong). Disney, on the other side, they want to bury them.
Seriously? George absolutely wanted to bury them, like I said we don't even know if the original films are preserved - Lucas did everything in his power to essentially delete them from history. He couldn't provide the original prints when asked by the National Film Registry.
At least he tried to improve them? Improve them all you want, but don't literally force that version on the fans who love Star Wars because of the ORIGINAL films. Don't throw them in the dumpster essentially (which for all we know he did - the prints). Do what every other sane filmmaker does, and offer both versions... not some shitty Laserdisk non-anamorphic scan with no official DVD or Blu-ray release.
Blaming this insane practice that he started and perpetuated on Disney is pure madness. Also, I believe Fox owns the rights for A New Hope now and potentially forever, so who knows what limitations there are.
maul, the cinema releases were released on Laserdisc and once on DVD.
shareLaserdisk, in 1993. Non-anamorphic. The DVD was not a proper release, just a shitty non-anamorphic Laserdisk scan, LIKE I MENTIONED ALREADY. Why do people have such a hard on for defending Lucas here? It's like I'm in the fucking Twilight zone, and I'm saying "1+1=2" but you people keep saying that "no, 3+3=6" like that's even the fucking point.
Or, I'm saying "1+1=2" then you say "NO, one plus one equals TWO"... like, I already fucking said that. Jesus Christ.
Simply stating that it was released. And yes, the DVD version was pure trash, cause it simply was a copy of the Laserdisc version. But the Laserdisc version (the golden one) itself looks amazing when you view it on an analogue output device (or when you got some real expensive digital upscaler).
sharehe should of defintily produced them and write them but get someone else to direct
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Madness.
Things get even worse and you want to go back to merely terrible? How about aspiring to get back to actually good or even great? How about we let some good writers like Vernor Vinge, Neal Stephenson, or Even Marv Wolfman pen new SW? And while we're at it, never ever think about Lucas again and get skilled directors like Duncan Jones, Terry Gilliam, John McTiernan, or James Cameron (forgetting Avatar) to helm the projects.
TFA was serviceable but not without flaws. Still it was better than ALL of the prequels (not sure how people forgive the idiocy of RotS).
Rogue One had excellent settings and good action but was lifeless, poorly written, poorly directed, and had throw-away characters except for the one good one, Que Tu Eso.
TLJ was nearly pure garbage. Sorta liked the bombing with all its nonsense and sorta liked Rey/Kylo scebes.
All that is to say that TFA and R1 were a bit better than the Prequels but still kinda sucked. TLJ was actually worse than the prequels but that doesn't mean we need to get back to that low low standard. We need a higher standard, period.
Glad to see someone else has some sense here.
shareI never wanted Lucas gone--just not in a 100% directing role. The prequels proved that too much Lucas can be a VERY bad thing. The old films proved that just ENOUGH Lucas can be an EXCELLENT thing.
Lucas, with a bit of leash, is what is needed for a great Star Wars movie.
It will never happen, but I would LOVE if they would just de-canonize this God-awful Disney Star Wars and just start over with something fresh and far in the future with the characters making some sort of off-handed comment that Luke, Han and Leia lived happily ever after at Return of the Jedi's end.
Funny you should write this. I was just thinking George handing Star Wars over to Disney was a bigger mistake than it sounded like when it first happened. Not having Lucas involved has resulted in the series having no unified direction. The off-shot stories are a neat idea, but I'd rather they just told original stories with original characters altogether. Also, they're putting stuff out way too close together. Make the people wait for their next Star Wars fix (of course, with money being the only object of Disney's affections, I realize patience is off the table...)
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