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Kirkman's mindset?

posted 8 years ago by donata713
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Is it possible that Kirkman is just having the show play out as badly as it is to show that real life society as a whole really are becoming the walking dead? I really am starting to believe so with the way this series has played out so far. I mean, it has just gotten worse and worse with each and every episode. Obviously this show is just thriving on the coattails of the original series but I'm thinking Kirkman is doing it on purpose at this point just to laugh in the face of television viewers knowing that they will continue to watch anything related to the walking dead universe.

So I ask any of the imdb posters here who watch FtWD, if someone interviewed Kirkman and honestly answered this was indeed his mindset, would you continue to watch FtWD knowing as much?

[–] Pumba74 8 years ago

The issue with Kirkman is yeah he's a one trick pony. FTWD should've been something very different from TWD. It felt a bit different in the very beginning, like literally 3 episodes. By episode 4 it was TWD: The prequel. Nothing new, nothing different. Instead of being on the East coast, they are on the west. Instead of being one family unit its a multiple family unit. Its the same thing just in a different wrapper.

And now its EXACTLY the same thing, group is together, split up, find shelter, deal with a few nut jobs, *beep* goes sideways, leave again to repeat the pattern a few episodes later.

FTWD should've been a different thing altogether. Instead of another group of strangers surviving why not have it be about a military outpost dealing with the outbreak and see how the government breaks down. Why not have it be about a group of scientists who is trying to discover a cure and we follow them? Or about a guy who was across the country when the outbreak hit and we find him trying to get back or find his family. They did that with Strand but that was just a plot device. Have the whole show be about this guy trying to get home and so its not just moving place to place like TWD is, there is an actual goal to get to.

Just something that don't feel like the same *beep* we already have in the other show. It set itself apart geographically but thats it and it looks like they are now moving the show back to America anyway.

This guy isn't a visionary. He throws in the same ingredients every single time just with slight variation but it comes down to the same crap of the survivors finding a spot and have to go against a group of A-holes who are trying to take them down oh and walkers.

[–] Bullish_Captain 8 years ago

Instead of being one family unit its a multiple family unit.

 Which are you saying is FWTD and which is TWD?

And now its EXACTLY the same thing, group is together, split up, find shelter, deal with a few nut jobs, *beep* goes sideways, leave again to repeat the pattern a few episodes later.

That's not how TWD is. They only split up on TWD once.
And if this pattern happens every few episodes, there would have been like 20 bad groups and 20 different places they lived at by now.

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[–] Pumba74 8 years ago

Bro you know what I'm saying. When I said 'multiple' families I was talking about the fact Travis and Madison were married before and had other families from those members involved. I couldve been clearer but my ultimate point was it basically is what TWD did just with a small twist.

And yes OFFICIALLY TWD group only split up once but there were other instances members of the group ended up with other people and groups, which they are doing here. My point is its the same crap, they go from place to place, deal with douchebag henchmen, deal with them and then move on. There is no end goal for either of these shows just rinse and repeat over and over again.

[–] Bullish_Captain 8 years ago

. My point is its the same crap, they go from place to place, deal with douchebag henchmen, deal with them and then move on.

Which henchmen chased them away in seasons 1, 2, 3, 5, 6?

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[–] Pumba74 8 years ago

Bro you're clearly the ultimate apologists for these shows but don't play dumb. Every season on TWD minus the first one had some douchebag henchman they had to fight off. You know what I'm saying guy. The point is its the same song just a different variation of it and clearly no ending in sight.

[–] sandifay62 8 years ago

My point about Kirkman and the makers of the show is that if people know they are a one trick pony, they should stop wasting their time expecting that pony to do different tricks.

TWD and FTWD are what they are and will always be the way they are because some of the same people are attached to them.

[–] dinerfood-901-211557 8 years ago

Kirkland carried by Costco. Don't dismiss the walking dead ties until you see the hangover shuffle around the store Saturday morning.

[–] xystophoros 8 years ago

Kirkman's mindset is that this crap sells, so he's making as much of this crap as possible while it's hot, and will continue making it until the TV watching public gets sick of zombies.

[–] Bullish_Captain 8 years ago

Kirkman's mindset is that this crap sells, so he's making as much of this crap as possible while it's hot, and will continue making it until the TV watching public gets sick of zombies.

Kirkman's been writing the comic for 13 years and plans to go another 10 more.
Tv shows wont change that.

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[–] Pumba74 8 years ago

irkman's been writing the comic for 13 years and plans to go another 10 more.

Of course not! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Stan Lee this guy is not. He invented one comic book that hit gold and he knows thats all he got as far as talent and ambitions goes.

[–] donata713 8 years ago

Not necessarily true. Guy has written a number of different comic books, even writing for Marvel at one point. Yeah, one hit gold but that's one more than many people, much less many artists will ever know. I don't think anyone will ever confuse this guy with Stan Lee but then again, Stan Lee is a pioneering legend to be fair.

[–] Pumba74 8 years ago

Alright I gotcha. But clearly he knows this is as good as it gets because he definitely hasn't tried anything else sense. Again, if FTWD was at least something different that tried to expand beyond what TWD was that would at least be something but it turned out to be the exact same thing just with new characters and, oh, 6 months ahead of the other show. Not hating the guy but its clear he's not the most creative guy doing the same story lines over and over again, just another variation of the same thing over and over again.

[–] sandifay62 8 years ago

Sheesh. Why are you trying to paint this guy as some money making evil genius that's holding back some scary talent to milk people out of millions?

He's an average guy that made a good comic book with an average zombie story line. It got made into an average but very popular show. That was a hit so they simply wanted to try another one. I don't see any sin there. The people that make both shows are as average as he is. They aren't holding back, this is as good as they can do and people have fun with it. I'm not mad at anybody for making a living from their ideas. You expect him to work for free? You expect him you become some visionary?

You may like his shows or liked his comic book but you can't put your own high standards and expectations on other people. They do what they do, you see if you like it, and decide for yourself if it's worth your time. I love both of the shows, but I know they aren't masterpieces and never will because I've seen the wor they've done over the years.

If he's become a conceited jerk over time, that's pretty much what a lot of people become. but I still enjoy his stupid shows for what they are. Fun and funny. I don't know why people take this stuff so seriously. These aren't serious shows. It's zombie fast food. Lol