In this film, would you classify the two young main ladies as villains?
Or anti-heroines as such? And Keanu Reeves' character is a good guy, right?
shareIf the story was genderbent and those two ladies were men, nobody would doubt their villainousness. Feminism rules!
shareI dare say, I didn't even necessarily think along those lines, just asked a question out of personal curiosity, thank you. Even so, there are various gradations to male characters in films that occasionally go beyond good and bad, there's anti-heroes, antagonists, protagonists etc, just wondered what other people thought, that's all.
shareAnd plus, we are often USED to films with them being "gender bent" as such (by the way, the word "genderbent" when typed comes up as incorrectly spelled) hence why you often don't see questioning involved. And I actually didn't mean so much if they are good or bad but rather what are they in terms of characters in cinematic terminology?
Plus - at least one of the ladies has revealed to have a traumatic past related to childhood abuse of a particularly sensitive nature and Reeves' character himself was called unlikeable, a cheat etc by certain audience members.
Nothing to do with pro or anti feminism here, although having said that, given the scale of the social issues this movie tries to deal with as opposed to merely simple horror story of villains and potential survivors (although it does involve that and has that vibe in it sometimes too), I can see why focus and social groups etc get involved in discussing such matters whereas they rarely come up for themes including say murder and killings etc. And - that's just the way it is in this world, right?
Anyways... (drum dum dum...) ...
"Feminism rules" - you forgot to add - at times both loudly AND subtly, so much, that people who may not even KNOW what it is or understand its meaning, feel its effects without even REALIZING it, lol. :)
shareWould you also say they were both EVIL? Or just say, flawed and psychologically damaged? Or both?
shareThere's no such thing as evil - stop reading the bible.
shareOr, for that matter, since I'm not even a religious person and last time I read the bible was about 25 years ago (literally!), stop watching too many ACTION movies and say read or watch fairytales, life, for ONE, is never THAT simple. Yes?
Also, 2 loser (no offense, just referencing your username), as welcome as you are, you don't necessarily have to say "reverse the genders" or bring "feminism" too much into the mix as if to say it surrounded the thoughts of all of us like that without us even realizing it.
You could simply judge the matter on its own OR - as paradoxical as it may sound, even if its a little less TACTFUL, you could ask if I am simply STUPID although I admit the question was somewhat METAPHORICAL as well.
Plus, even film characters could be other than heroes and villains and good and evil. Antagonists and protagonists. Anti-heroes. Troubled people turning to dark sides. And the film may not even encourage us to take sides but just tell a story or explore a situation or even darkly satirize it at least like partially here.
OK - I admit, there's such a thing as good and evil in fairy tales as well - not just the bible.
shareAnd action movies, and to an extent, real life as well.
shareAlso, to a very "minor" extent at least, whether by "law" or "morality" or "common sense" or dictionary "definitions", and let's exclude all kinds of even positive or double standard oriented stupidity, unfairness, prejudice, various "isms" etc, this movie can also ask if we are to treat male and female err "villains" or "antagonists" different or same or similar for related offenses, or "crimes" etc than their typically well recognized male counterparts.
Although one could answer in serious matters like this at least possibly yes.
Also interesting, some viewers have debated that even before official de-facto err acts of sexual gender reversal assault or the dreaded "r" word, the ladies have already did something to him that could be classified as "it" or something similar when they didn't get "100% explicit approval of sex from him", which could at least be considered harassment and in practice an offense at least under de-facto LAW, but some have debated it, what they do to him afterwards falls under it and even physical torture etc.
So in some ways, maybe they went from normal or naughty to downright evil or bad etc and did acts or actions to qualify them as such. So I suppose yeah you could consider them female VILLAINS.
Feminism is a cancer!
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