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9.30pm curfew biggest plot hole? (spoilers)


Just seems strange that two mentally insane people would give a warning like that. Like, oh after 9.30pm we go extra crazy....beware.

How can you be self aware and insane?

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Have you heard why people are called lunatics? It's because of how the Lunar Cycle effects people's behaviour, there have been loads of studies on it so it is possible.

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The moon as the cause of insanity is an archaic falsehood from medieval times. Please provide links to any of "the loads" of modern scientific study that attributes insanity to the moon.

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Ask any er nurse or Dr. If the moon or full moon brings the crazies out.

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Ask any er nurse or Dr. If the moon or full moon brings the crazies out.


Oh, that kind of scientific study!

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And they'll also tell you that numerous studies discount the myth.

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They're called lunatics because our ancestors once believed it hinged on the lunar cycle. There's a reason there is no "lunatic" diagnosis now.

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Questioning horrible movies is a waste of time.

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Perhaps 9:30 PM was lights out at the mental home they were in.

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DEAR MODS: PLZ REDUCE MY POSTING QUOTA. 30 MIN IS WAY TOO MUCH.

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perhaps. But the way he said it to the kids was more of a warning, i.e. do not go outside your room after 9.30pm because then we go a bit nuts.

My point is how can someone who is crazy know they are crazy.

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Your point requires them to be insane. They are not. They have a condition that causes confusion and irritation and sometimes violence based on chemical changes that occur in humans during the last cycle of wakefulness.

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Sundowning is a real thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundowning

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The viewers of a movie (and more specifically, a horror movie) are naturally more aware that something will go wrong than the characters of that movie. Because the characters, at the beginning of every horror movie, don't know that s--t is gonna happen, right? We know that s--t is gonna happen even before we see the movie, how could those kids know it too? The just went for a week to stay with their grandpa and grandma and have a good time. Someone who seems so suspicious to us doesn't seem suspicious to the characters, at least at the beginning. So if I was in the kids' place and my grandpa told me "just one rule kids, in this house we go to sleep at 9:30 pm, so there's no activity outside your bedroom after that time", I would just think that they're old people who go to bed very early, and don't want any disturbance when they sleep. Right?

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Well, you're actually wrong about the Grandfather's explanation. Their first night he says, "We're old, so bed time is at 9:30". He never tells them to stay in their room, which is why she had no problem going out of her room, wherein she spots grandma vomitting away. The "best not to leave your room after 9:30" comment comes after the girl mentions grandma vomitting, and her other crazy antics.

I'm gonna have to second the notion that 9:30 was lights out at the asylum, and also add that he didn't want the kids to see grandma going crazy anymore, this scaring them off before they had the chance to kill the kids. Just my humble 2 cents.

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You're wrong. He tells them to stay in their room after 9:30. This happens after the night they see their grandmother scratching the wall naked.

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Re-read my post... I said the exact same thing, just different words.

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If you understood sundowning you'd get it. They aren't insane. In the same way an Alzheimer's patient realizes that they are forgetting things, sundowners know they tend to go wonky around a certain time. It's no different than a person with ADD recognizing, and earning others- of their proclivity toward impulsiveness or frantic train of thought.

It is not insanity. Or dementia. It maybe a concurrent syndrome, but many perfectly lovely elderly folks experience it.

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They explain in the movie why the grandma goes crazy at that time. We see this process during the Yahtzee scene

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And no--they are MOST DEFINITELY insane. Sundowning was obviously just one of her many problems.

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I think they realize that they need to act normal enough that the kids won't suspect anything. They told them not to go in the basement. The kids started questioning her behavior at night and he had to give an explanation for it to keep them calm.

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