John Oliver used to present great, funny, and insightful reports on political issues, but now it seems recent episodes have just descended into Liberal punditry.
Now, i'm not saying anything is wrong with Liberalism, I just think the show was better with a more Centrist Stance.
I've noticed it too. Of course liberal viewers just see it as "the truth".
Welcome to the internet, everyone knows everything, and no one likes anything
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
shareActually it's quite the opposite.
Welcome to the internet, everyone knows everything, and no one likes anything
... Said the neo-conservative hater.
shareReality is all nations re looking out for themselves.
Religious psychos in the middle east want us dead, yes, that includes hand wringing liberals
Banning guns won't actually solve anything.
Just throwing money at poor people doesn't magically motivate them.
I could go on and on and on.
Liberals just a have a childish view of the world that completely ignores the fact that it is a nasty place and people are terrible.
So you can keep derping about conservatives, but it just shows how little you know of the world.
Welcome to the internet, everyone knows everything, and no one likes anything
Reality is all nations re looking out for themselves.
Religious psychos in the middle east want us dead, yes, that includes hand wringing liberals
Banning guns won't actually solve anything.
Liberals just a have a childish view of the world that completely ignores the fact that it is a nasty place and people are terrible.
While I don't agree with you on all issues, I think it is very important to note that both parties are very flawed, and the media just plays off of those flaws.
I should probably also state that I am politically independent, and don't care for either left or right wing politics.
Religious psychos in the middle east want us dead, yes, that includes hand wringing liberals
Liberals want us dead? Wow, talk about advertising your ignorance.
NO dumbazz, it means that the religious psychos in the middle east want us dead INCLUDING our hand wringing liberals. (Wow, talk about advertising your ignorance)
Good impression of an idiot. Idiots have well known liberal biases. Reality does not. Reality's bias does not tip in favor of the "feelings first" liberal mindset.
Communism was just a Red herring!
Says who exactly? And what does actual reality have to do with having a liberal OR a conservative bias to it in the very first place? Such a statement seems to indicate nothing other than either a liberal or conservative trying to shape the world into his/her own image.
"A cynic is what an idealist calls a realist" - H.G. Wells
I am very much a liberal, but the show nowadays seems to pander to liberals who have no interest in digging deeper into the topics and learning about both sides. I have noticed again and again that John leaves out key elements of certain stories in order to paint a picture that fits well with the liberals, and you can tell the audience is eating it up.
shareBecause news is not about being objective, its about finding the audience that keeps your ad revenue strong.
shareDarkeoonz said it best. I am a conservative but definitely a modderate. I find my self eating up what he says until he speaks on a topic I actually know about. Then that makes me wonder about pasts topics. Then I research it more. He definitely fits it all together well but it definitely isnt all there.
shareit seems to me that everyone in this thread seems to be mixing up two terms. Liberals and progressives. John Oliver is pandering to progressives, who are not liberal, in most cases quite the opposite - they are authoritarian.
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Since when are progressives authoritarian?
As far as I can see, John Oliver's program has skewed more and more to the right, especially in its superficial treatment of political and economic circumstances in countries outside of the US.
Since they started to act like authoritarians? Segregation, censorship and outright discrimination to people they deem "wrong" is quite authoritarian.
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I think he's leaning more left which is annoying for two reasons. Of course the left makes mistakes and they need to be called out and I'm so tired of the right crying about how bad he is for showing realities of that party at this time. Let the left cry about how mean he is.
shareThen you're blind.
Communism was just a Red herring!
Where the frack to you get the idea that progressives are authoritarian?
Oliver is pandering to Liberals, NOT progressives. There is a very distinct neo-liberal, pro-Hillary streak to this show. It has done what other corporate media has done in ignoring Bernie Sanders' campaign (or that he is still a candidate for the presidency), or if referring to the campaign, trivializing it. That is straight from the Hillary Clinton book of manipulating and defrauding the public.
From their actions. When progressives are acting like authoritarians and demanding authoritarian laws to be implemented, they are authoritarians in disguise.
Also wow i cant believe you really think Hillary is a liberal. Shes your standard corporate shill feminist that is the opposite of liberal.
Though it is no wonder Oliver is shilling for Hillary, given that HBOs parent company donated heavily to their campaign. Something this show is actually required by law to disclose, but doesnt.
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Shes your standard corporate shill feminist that is the opposite of liberal.
Why? Left and right is not the same as liberal an authoritarian. These are two different Axis. You can be both right liberal and left authoritarian. Most US right is slightly liberal so an authoritarian candidate from either right or left is bad for them. Besides, the right is too busy panicking over Trump to care about Hillary.
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John Oliver used to present great, funny, and insightful reports on political issues, but now it seems recent episodes have just descended into Liberal punditry.
As Bill Maher put it (so brilliantly): "Republicans keep staking out a position that is further and further to the right, and then demand that Democrats meet them in the middle--which is now not the middle anymore."
No matter what position on issues the media may take, if it is not doctrinaire movement Conservative, then Conservatives will accuse the members of the media of being too liberal. And that tactic really kills with middle-class Republicans--it scares them into continuing to support right-wing candidates who do not have their best interests at heart. It works to terrify simple religious folk ("They want to outlaw religion!") and people who just want to be able to keep a gun in their house for protection ("They're coming for your guns!"). So when a Conservative accuses a media figure of being too liberal, remember, it's only a tactic--background noise, nothing more.
Oh, yeah, and it's horsesh!t, too.
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Yeah, you obviously have no bias.
shareOf course I have a bias. I'm a proud liberal Democrat. But I'm not a part of the media.
And I maintain that "the liberal media" is nothing but a conservative myth. It's a phrase that right-wingers use to perpetuate the fantasy that their own agenda-driven fourth estate (e.g., Fox News, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Times, etc.) is "fair and balanced," and presenting the "truth" vs. the pervasive leftism that infests the mainstream. Like I said, that's horsesh!t. And anyone with half a brain can see it.
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Anyone with half a brain can see that MSNBC and Last Week Tonight have a liberal bias, the same way Fox has a conservative bias. There is no "the liberal media", but there is liberal media, which this is.
shareIt seems the right feels if a news channel does not shower blind praise on them they have a liberal bias. It's just another example of having no interest in looking in the mirror. Instead of holding their own accountable for their actions they blame a show for being biased. The errors of some politician's ways is blatantly obvious but hey, that's perfectly fine. It's the media's fault. I desperately want the right to offer someone with half a brain but they can't find anyone to give us in the middle an option. Then when they come out immediately and say they are fighting every single idea Obama comes up with, good idea or not, then follow up on that how can you take them seriously? If the left did that I would be pi$$ed at them too. They don't give a shmit about the people. Not that the left is much better but the right should start looking in the mirror and stop blaming others.
shareAnd just what is centrist anymore ..RESPECTFULLY,the fracking country is nominating Trump for out POTUS....there is no more centrist....HELLO!
shareIt is apparently too boring to be a centrist, since youre not too outspoken about anything, which in turn doesnt make it easy to balance things out, especially when either side is making so much noise.
sharePeople confuse centrist with ,,has no opinion...or doesn't care...but often a centrist is the smartest of all!
The problem with America in this new evolution of the selfish and it is someone else's fault...while screaming personal responsibility... And then the religious who really want a dictator!
But one that speaks to their selfish interests...the pure and simple idea of equality for ALL and a fair chance for ALL, has never been a reality for most. I always laugh at those idiots who scream about fearing sharia law when the Old Testament is just that..EXACTLY..really not so funny.
So,now people,see the reality that white powerful men are soon to be a fading cancer and I'm white....and it scares the hell out of them...
They think....Better to have a white man no matter who he is,,after all...when taken the realities of our past and what white people have done to everyone that isn't white and now rich,well any idiot might think...I never really thought I'd have to pay for, or that my children would have to pay for supporting a system of oppression of everyone else under the guise of a free and equal system that never has existed...
Even white people get that now,,,but some blame others,the Trump supporters,,they seem to think it is somehow everyone else's fault...Mexico,the Middle a East..and Trump capitalizes on there free floating anger! They can not have ever read or studied past or current affairs. It isn't possible.
Others want change,but think it will be magical by electing Bernie,,he is earnest,I believe...but he isn't goi got be able to bring his fantasy into reality,,not soon...
The real centrists will vote for Hilary...
Then there are those who look at the sad leftovers,and choose Rubio,because who else?? They won't vote for the obvious best choice because she is a she and a democrat...whatever that is..lol...I always saw it as someone who was as centrist as possible,while still able to be effective in Washington.
Cruz wants a theocracy,the rest have gone way of white clouds...they were just wasting out time anyway.. What a sad bunch,,and this is the best republicans can do? And there were 19 of them...not one electable in a general elections because none of them represent the electorate...only special interest...and there tactic has always been that dems are for special interest,,but they have always used that tactic,,acuse the opposition of exactly what you are doing,,.and it works on some..
It has more to do with the ignorance and stupidity of a poorly educated,selfish electorate,that is more interested in their next iPhone and how to look good on Facebook,then the real problems of the country and the world..
I just want it to be over...lol...
The Brits have it down...45 days total for a major election,,.we have an ongoing campaign here in America...and it serves only the pundits and talk radio hosts who are all so rich they couldn't possible really care anymore....laughable If not so dangerous ..
Sorry for the rant,,,really! Lol. Can't believe all that just spewed,out,,
I mean, yeah the Republican candidates save for Kasich are all pretty much trash, but the same goes for the Democrats. Honestly, the only 2 decent candidates this election are Kasich and Sanders.
shareI agree with Kasich but he's already dead in the water. Regarding "slamming republicans", it just so happens they deserve it, sadly. I mean how many times do we have to be beaten over the head with their ridiculous actions before we start holding them accountable and stop blaming others for pointing it out?
shareI wouldn't say Republicans as a party deserve to be "slammed", but the candidates they have running? Most definitely.
shareI think the right has lost it's way. They seem obsessed with being petty, combative and using too much fear mongering. It's too bad because they have many good attributes that we all benefit from. And yes, the goofs they have sent forth as candidates is sad. The left has issues too but I think (and hope) the right gets some of theirs fixed. Be problem solvers. The people are desperate for either side to pull their heads out of their arse holes and then hope the other follows suit and stops with the blame games.
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